Loss Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Talk about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 A bit abrupt at the end when they seemed to be working toward a classic, but I'd say that's sort of understandable considering ... yeah. Great high-flying match, and these two do complement each other well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Dragon's AAA mask is just weird. I don't even remember him there. Did Sasuke get injured during this match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 If I remember correctly, Sasuke was reported to have cracked his skull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Not sure how long Dragon was in AAA for but he was there. Remember, he was in the AAA match at the Peace Festival. Sasuke fractured his skull on the over the post flip dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Sleeze Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I think if this had a full finish I would rate it a lot more highly but I understand given that Sasuke basically powerbombed himself onto concrete that he couldnt go anymore. Still, it feels like Sasuke and Dragon feed into each other's worst behavior. The match feels like an exhibition of cool spots rather than a wrestling match. The dueling Asai Moonsaults were nifty. The story of the match seemed to be more about who can outdo each other rather than actually winning the belt. It is wrestling so I expect some level of dick waving, but this seemed excessive. It lacked that sort of competitive spirit a Liger or Ohtani bring to the table in their matches. That all being said there a lot worse things in this world than a Sasuke/Dragon exhibition because both are breath-taking on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenjo Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 The 8 girls in swimsuits were a nice touch, as they each came out carrying a belt. It was all downhill from there. I'm not sure if I've mentioned this here before but the 'Great' Sasuke fucking sucks. He's like the Japanese version of Sabu or something. I'd be hard pressed to think of a Puroresu star from the era I dislike more. His Tiger Mask ripoff movement is tilting, his selling is abysmal, he's a total spot monkey slop bucket, and he has no idea how to construct a match by himself. For any good match he was in give major props to the opponent, because all Sasuke could do were flashy moves. And the fans loved the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 This was whatever, an indie-riffic jaunt between two guys who need somebody with a stronger command of the basics to be led to a classic match, with every spot being something I could call before it happened, and with a badly booked and badly executed finish. I don't hate Sasuke as much as Zenjo because unlike Tiger Mask, his spots generally actually hit, but I sure am souring on him in a big way. Edit: Didn't realize this was the broken-skull match. I'll go lighter on them, then, though I still didn't think the pre-injury work was anything special even if was strong athletically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Agree that the stuff up to the fracture was very exhibitionish. They seemed to be building to the dives but it felt very maligned and just a sequence of spots. Disappointing since I have been overall a fan of these two going through the 90's and this was a huge stage with the J Crown on the line. The visual of Sasuke with the belts remains awesome. **1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Not exhibitionist in the least. Fuck, this can seem that way because two generations of shitty indy workers tried to replicate what these two were doing, without the great execution and agressiveness. But these two were having the ultimate lucharesu bomb throwing match, with Asai moonsault payback spot from the student to the mentor. And of course, Sasuke KILLS HIMSELF FOR OUR PLEASURE !!!! Well, that was the felling of some back then. And of course, they have to go home, and it's a classic-that-would very good match in the end. The J*Crown was such a great concept. That it made its way into WCW was even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Sleeze Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think if this had a full finish I would rate it a lot more highly but I understand given that Sasuke basically powerbombed himself onto concrete that he couldnt go anymore. Still, it feels like Sasuke and Dragon feed into each other's worst behavior. The match feels like an exhibition of cool spots rather than a wrestling match. The dueling Asai Moonsaults were nifty. The story of the match seemed to be more about who can outdo each other rather than actually winning the belt. It is wrestling so I expect some level of dick waving, but this seemed excessive. It lacked that sort of competitive spirit a Liger or Ohtani bring to the table in their matches. That all being said there a lot worse things in this world than a Sasuke/Dragon exhibition because both are breath-taking on offense. Ultimo Dragon vs Great Sasuke - J-Crown Tournament Finals I cant believe it has been five years since I have seen this. The two biggest non-New Japan Juniors take on one another for the biggest prize in junior heavyweight wrestling history. Unfortunately the match just does not live up to expectations. Of course, the biggest issue is that Sasuke basically powerbombs himself onto the concrete when he slips off the top turnbuckle and cracks his skull open. True to form, he no sells, hits a bodyslam and then misses a moonsault. See how can we expect people to sell worked moves when someone wont even sell their head being cracked open. So the finish is pretty abrupt, but before the finish it just felt like a big spotfest. It is Dragon and Sasuke without anyone to reign them in. I actually prefer their 2007 M-Pro match greatly to this because Sasuke wrestled his heart out in that one. In this one, there were so many resets with the Irish Whip and just felt very cooperative. There was some fun stuff with the dueling quebradas and then dueling Asai Moonsaults. Dragon's dive was great. Dragon's offense did look awesome. I know there were trying to go all out, but some semblance of struggle would have been nice. It is entertaining, but just does not have the gravitas a moment like this should. Of course, it sucks Sasuke seriously injured himself. I cant hate it too much because I like Ultimo Dragon's offense a lot. ***1/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 It's a shame the match had to wrap up so abruptly. This wasn't on its way to being any kind of classic, but if they had a couple more minutes to work a good ending stretch it could have been a very satisfying final of the tournament. Mirror exchanges are usually pretty obnoxious but I think it worked here; both guys are masked wrestlers in wild getups working an unorthodox lucharesu style -- distinct from everyone else, except each other. The matwork didn't display much virtuosity to say the least but was fast paced and felt scrappy. I thought what we got was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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