Loss Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Talk about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 This disappointed me. What made the '93 match work is that Casas insisted on the lucha libre style against Ultimo. Here, the matwork feels way more like formulaic NJ juniors matwork than lucha matwork, which made it less interesting. It's not a bad match, but it's not anything like the '93 classic. I consider it a case of Casas working a guy a few times then figuring out how to get a great match out of him. In August 1992, he wasn't quite there with Ultimo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Gotta agree. They had better matches in the future but this was just I don't know. Was that Virus who second Negro Casas? I find that funny for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Gotta agree. They had better matches in the future but this was just I don't know. Was that Virus who second Negro Casas? I find that funny for some reason. It was Pirata Morgan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 I liked the match. It wasn't as good as 93 but still an excellent match. I thought Dragon's spinning toe holds in the 1st fall fall looked great. Some of the matwork was cool. Some of Dragon's suplexes into submissions were like as McMahon would say on commentary whatamaneuver. I also loved that finish to the 3rd caida. Dragon goes over Casas, but doesn't land on his feet clean. Dragon stumbles and Casa's catches him in a cradle for the pin was cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ridge Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Find myself not really digging Dragon in Mexico. Thought this would be a better. I'll have to check out their 93 match at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Solid groundwork and submissions early, and Dragon throwing a neat flurry of kicks. Dragon also did his best Santo impersonation with the plancha through the ropes at the post. Nothing at all wrong with this, but as noted above it didn't rise to the level of anything great. But really, how bad is Dragon vs. Casas ever going to be? ***1/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I don't have anything else between these guys to compare to, so I thought this was a perfectly good title match. I guess the one thing that puzzled me was how sympathetic Casas worked throughout, from the way he sold Dragon's kicks to Dragon's submissions to Casas' flash pin victory. I know, it's a lucha title match so that means less rudo shtick, but it still stuck out, like Shawn Michaels working Diesel at WM11. More of an observation than a criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Wow, this was absurdly one-sided. There are times when that can work, but I don't think that a lucha title match is one of them (and especially not if the winner is the guy getting no offense). Casas took Dragon off his feet maybe five times in the whole match. On top of that, the sequence that won him the third fall was an exact repeat of one that got him a two-count in the second fall. The only really good part of this was Casas breaking the tapatia. I think that this took place on August 28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Totally agree with Pete and Gregor on this one. Why was Casas working babyface? How come it was so one-sided? This didn't match the build up whatsoever. Frustrating -- http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/blog/8/entry-453-vintage-negro-casas-of-the-day-14/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garretta Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 This was an excellent scientific wrestling match. Dragon dominated the first fall with his work on Casas' leg, and Casas got what I guess could be called a flash submission with the scorpion deathlock to even things up. The thing that stood out to me was Dragon's lack of aggression; every time he had Casas on the run, he was a step slow following up, thus letting him off the hook. It even played into the final fall, as he was a bit slow straightening up after going over Casas' back, which allowed Casas to execute the winning small package. I'm always fascinated by what they choose to show during the replay sequences on lucha shows. Usually it's the pinfalls or some good-looking dives, but here they showed Dragon's superplex three different times. I wonder why. Was the superplex an uncommon spot in lucha that they felt they had to call attention to? Come to think of it, I don't remember many superplexes in the lucha bouts I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKWebb Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Well, I can't wait for the match in 1993 then, because really enjoyed this! This is a great pairing... between the smoothness and selling of Casas and rough edges and killer offense of Dragon... this is a fun one! Their styles really compliment each other. I do see what some are saying about it being a little one-sided, but maybe they were just really trying to build up Dragon as a contender? I have no clue about the build-up to this, so I'm likely totally off with that...I tried to hit up OJ's link but couldn't get it to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted April 4, 2021 Report Share Posted April 4, 2021 I enjoyed parts of this. The whole didn't make sense. Casas working as the underneath babyface and cowardly heel all at the same time didn't work for me. Dragon had lots of cool offense, and had 90% of the offense in the match. Why did he lose 2 falls? I guess I don't mind the idea that a well-executed submission or roll-up (which both were) can end a match, but I wish Casas had gotten a good chunk more offense and either a. ) stuck with the cowardly rudo act all the way through or b.) hadn't been trying to run away so much and just played the babyface fighting from underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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