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On RoH TV this week during Cody's intro they said that he and Dusty are the 2nd father/son duo to win internationally recognized Heavyweight Titles in wrestling.

 

I am probably blanking on someone incredibly obvious, but who are the first?

 

Did Mysterio Sr ever win a heavyweight title? Maybe Albert Del Rio if you consider TNA an "internationally recognized title"

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Just watched last weeks ROH TV, and thought that it was a really good episode with largely the sole focus being on the title match between Cody and Christopher Daniels. That was the only match and they had multiple recaps and segments with buildup and I thought it worked really effectively - like the prematch stuff they have before a sporting contest. Whether people think Cody makes a good choice for champion I know is up for debate, but I liked his delivery in the packages and he comes across as a star compared to a lot of other guys on the roster.

 

While I thought that the 'these comments were almost too controversial for broadcast' segment was a bit cheesy, given they weren't that extreme really, I've always been a sucker for that kind of presentation so I enjoyed it, and I thought it was some good character work from both Daniels and Kazarian. It was one of those cases of where you could really get behind what they were trying to say and you could see the justification in their frustrations at the way the crowd went from chanting "you deserve it" at Daniels when he won the title to booing him just a couple of months later as everyone thinks cheering for Cody/Bullet Club is the cool thing to do. A microcosm of the fickleness of modern day fans

 

If it was me, I would've dropped the Silas Young/Jay Lethal angle and given the whole hour to the build up to, and then the title match itself, as I liked the generally single purpose of the show, and given it was a 2/3 falls match think it could've done with a bit more time down the stretch. The match itself was solid rather than great, but I enjoyed it, and thought both wove their characters well into how the match was laid out. It was also refreshing to see a 2/3 falls match end without the cliche deciding fall.

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On RoH TV this week during Cody's intro they said that he and Dusty are the 2nd father/son duo to win internationally recognized Heavyweight Titles in wrestling.

 

I am probably blanking on someone incredibly obvious, but who are the first?

 

Super Porky & Maximo

Carlos Colon Carlito Colon (43 reigns between them!)

Dos Caras & Alberto Del Rio

Fritz and Kerry Von Erich

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On RoH TV this week during Cody's intro they said that he and Dusty are the 2nd father/son duo to win internationally recognized Heavyweight Titles in wrestling.

 

I am probably blanking on someone incredibly obvious, but who are the first?

 

Super Porky & Maximo

Carlos Colon Carlito Colon (43 reigns between them!)

Dos Caras & Alberto Del Rio

Fritz and Kerry Von Erich

 

 

Guessing he was referring to the Von Erichs.

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Went to the War of the Worlds UK show in London a week or so ago, and as was the case for the same show last year I thought it was a really strong card. ROH doesn't seem to have much buzz at all, indeed, even on the UK tour I've heard stories that both the Liverpool and Edinburgh shows were patchy when it came to attendance and reception to the card, but at these York Hall shows in London you get the vibe of a popular, vibrant product. Maybe they should just come to London more regularly to do shows...

 

I was also at the Rev Pro show in the same venue the night before, and ROH production has come on leaps and bounds - again, it might just be the venue, but with the lighting rig, video screens etc. it's a pretty good set up. Overall there was a lot of fun matches and pretty much everyone was over. In the opener, Ryan Smile did himself a lot of favours with a strong showing against Mark Briscoe, which was a continuation from the Rev Pro show where Smile teamed with Shane Strickland to take on the Briscoe's in a really good match. The KUSHIA vs. Titan TV Title match was absolutely fantastic and well worth going out of your way to see, and worked well enough to where there were a couple of legitimate nearfalls that had you thinking there could be a title change, especially given that title changed hands a couple of times on the same tour the year before. KUSHIDA is just so consistent with the amount of good performances he puts on.

 

The 6 Man Tag Title match between Dalton Castle and The Boys and the masked trio of Liger, Mistico (no idea which one this is at this stage) and Delirious was huge amounts of fun with a nice mix of comedy and action and the crowd which was hot all night was lapping it up. The main event 10 man tag between the Bullet Club and Los Ingobernables was a huge amount of fun live, although I can accept it is the sort of match that would be pretty polarising. Given they were just coming off the G1, you could tell a few of the LIJ guys were taking it a bit easy (not that I'm blaming them) but there was more than enough action to keep people well engaged. With the Bucks, Scurll and Cody all being on the Bullet Club side there was always going to be a fair amount of 'schtick' but I don't feel it overstepped the mark to the detriment of the match. I will also say that the Bullet Club, and given hometown hero status, Scurll was unbelievably over. Whatever people think of them, they do seem to have tapped into some form of cultural zeitgeist.

 

A really fun show, that even my wife was entertained by, I just wish that ROH could bottle some of the energy that they seem to have when they come over here and have it reflected in their weekly TV show, which while I usually enjoy can come off flat at times.

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I couldn't tell you a damn thing that's going on in modern ROH at the moment but I've illegally downloaded every show from 2004 and plan to binge watch it all soon. All of it holds up really well, even the stereotypical early-2000s spotty stuff holds up in a charming way. CM Punk has gotta be the MVP of the promotion so far although I assume that'll change once Joe's reign kicks into that second gear.

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It's discussed earlier in this thread that people are actively *wanting* to give ROH money for their back catalogue and ROH is like, "Nah, we're good." The second-hand market is about the only way to go if you're talking 2004.

I couldn't think of a streaming service I'd throw my money at faster than a ROH network with the full catalouge, honestly.

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I have every show from the first few years of ROH on 1st Gen VHS in a big box in my closet, and then another huge box of DVD's from their next couple of years (some of them unopened.) I never watch them and likely never will. I should catalogue them and sell them on eBay, I might make a couple of bucks.

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I remember when they had a couple of handfuls of out of print shows available as .ISO downloads to burn yourself around the time Adam Pearce was in charge, at pretty reasonable prices. I was more than happy to throw them a few bucks and go that route rather than have to eBay or torrent shit, but then it just quietly died out and that was the end of it.

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Just now getting around to watching the PPV from last Friday. No match has really been bad but no match has reached that next level either. I only have the main event left to watch but every match so far has felt like it was about five minutes too short & that the performers are holding back. It reminds me of a house show before a big PPV where everyone is trying to be safe. I don't know, it's weird. It doesn't feel like a big show, it feels like it's sort of just there. Like watching a throwaway Smackdown episode.

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