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Rockers vs Powers of Pain (WWF MSG Network 01/15/90)

WWF WWE MSG Rockers Powers of Pain 4* Shawn Michaels Marty Jannetty Warlord Barbarian

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#21 Superstar Sleeze

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:06 PM

I just want to echo most of the comments about how killer this match is and I think this match fleshes out what was missing from the RnR Express vs Doom match as the Powers of Pain were really delivering some badass offense on Marty's back. The babyface shines in those two matches are about equal; it is the heat segment where this match exceeds the RnR/Doom match so well. Marty got some serious air on some of those throws. Jannetty's selling is actually better than in the RnR's match, but he a little bit more chance to demonstrate it since he wasn't in a chinlock. Interesting they went with Marty as Ricky Morton and Shawn as the hot tag as Rockers' matches are usually better when the roles are reversed. I liked the finish as it was a good way to protect the Rockers and have PoP go over.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 12:58 AM

I expected to like this as a big Rockers and Barbarian mark but this was outstanding. Jannetty's high elevation bumps were completely psychotic. This reminded me just how well the Rockers' teamwork was put over; from a kayfabe perspective it seems ridiculous that they were so rarely in the title picture.

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 06:49 AM

Janetty still hasn't come down from the backdrop. Really dug this. I'd have to go back and look but so far I think this is my match of the year so far. I don't know if that's saying much since I'm only about 14 days in.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:54 PM

See, why can't tag team matches be like this today? Molten crowd - Rockers are just so, so good here. Great story told, fantastic bumps, double team moves. Thought this was just awesome.

#25 garretta

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 06:44 PM

This match just narrowly runs second to Flair/Eaton for my American match of Disc 1, and Flair/Eaton gets the nod mostly because it was a World title match. Marty takes the beating of the set so far, complete with back-to-back ridiculous bumps off of a backdrop and a front press slam. To take those bumps on legitimately injured ribs (if they were legitimately injured) is one of the gutsiest things I've seen in a while. Interesting that the Powers went over, since this was one of their last big bouts as a team. You'd have thought the Rockers would have won to solidify their presence in the title picture.

 

Hillbilly isn't exactly Jesse Ventura in his prime on color, but he's a hell of a lot better than Billy Graham or Pete Doherty or even early-nineties Roddy Piper, much as it pains me to say that.

 

This match set up a six-man on the February card: Powers and Fuji vs. Rockers and Hacksaw Jim Duggan. The faces won when Marty pinned Fuji after Duggan clocked him with the two-by-four.



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 12:56 PM

Fantastic match. Echoing what  both Kevin and Loss said it seems the WWF left a whole bunch of potentially good matches off PPV and in this specfic instance, why did The Bushwackers/Rougeaus get the nod for the Rumble tag spot instead of this?



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Posted 23 October 2015 - 11:47 PM

Great match. It'll be interesting to see how this compares to the Midnight Express matches this year. I reckon I'll like some of those better but The Rockers collective fire can't be beat. I really liked the tag sequences from them. Very cool. 



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Posted 07 December 2016 - 06:45 PM

#413

 

Miracle match that's still fresh a second or third time round. Jannetty is phenomenal in this. Not only because of those high elevation bumps but for his selling throughout. He was just brilliant. Both teams looked good here. The Powers of Pain for their power wrestling and the Rockers for their teamwork. The match didn't overstay it's welcome but at the same time left you wanting more. Too bad there wasn't a rematch. 



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Posted 07 December 2016 - 07:30 PM

This is the "rematch," though I can't speak to the quality.

 

http://www.dailymoti...rs-of-pai_sport

 

(and a promo setting it up: )



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Posted 08 December 2016 - 06:24 AM

Matty D delivers!

 

It's a match that pretty much has zero chance of being as good as the first since Fuji and Duggan are involved, but Heenan is hilarious on commentary and carries the match with his back and forth barbs with Hillbilly Jim. Shawn plays FIP in this one, but it's nowhere near as meaningful as Jannetty's performance. Still, Heenan's quips keep things interesting. 



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Posted 10 December 2016 - 04:34 PM

I remember going through 1990, and this was my second favorite match of the month only behind Liger/Sano 1/31. I love this match. It's tons of fun. Perfect to throw on anytime, and I think it's one most anyone would really enjoy. A great match (****), and I'm pumped to watch the rematch posted above when I have time. Nice find! This would make a great educational/template match for younger guys on a great way to work David/Goliath type tags.

http://placetobenati...-90s-450-401/2/

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Posted 29 January 2017 - 10:57 AM

I can't disagree with any of the above.  Honestly it's a shame the Rockers had to implode the way they did.  Michaels the tag team specialist is so much better than Michaels the singles wrestler.



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:27 PM

Just a joyous power vs. speed match. Marty bumping like his life depended on it was awesome. The height he got on some of those drops were legitimately impressive and frightening. Then you add in the simple tag heel tactics like choking on the ropes and Fuji's interference all building up to that dastardly finish and you have a really great old school tag team match. Loved this.

 

****1/4



#34 Stiva

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:23 AM

Great tag match with a fantastic crowd and I agree that this should be a match that guys study today if they have to open a PPV card. The Rockers really were a sublime babyface team but The PoP are there with them in this one, loosening up the strings on their movesets and using Fuji pretty much perfectly on the outside. Jannetty must have been flush with adrenaline since his FiP segment is inspired, to the point where the hot tag can't even hope to compare. Having said that, Michaels is great on the apron, reacting to Jannetty's bumping like he's watching a guy fall out of a 4th floor window. All in all, a textbook example of a hot tag match.



#35 cactus

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:15 PM

Surprised I've never heard of this match before being a big Shawn Michaels mark and all. This deserved to be on PPV.

 

Just an utterly fantastic power vs speed match. The Rockers work around their limitations with some cool double team moves and they don't look out place working on the Powers of Pain. The height Jannetty got on those flapjacks was insane. I have no idea how that didn't injure the little creep.

 

★★★★



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Posted 02 February 2018 - 04:10 AM

This match was given to me by soup23 for the Match Review Trades thread. As always, I haven't read any of the above comments before composing my own thoughts.

 

On commentary are Gorilla Monsoon and...some Southern guy I can't recognize. Seriously, who is it? It's driving me crazy. It sounds like a more coherent Dusty Rhodes, but it can't be him. (Edit: It's Hillbilly Jim. I forgot he did commentary. He spoke a little too fast for my tastes but he wasn't bad at all. Hearing Gorilla again was also a wonderful nostalgia trip. Meltzer must have a cranial protuberance not to appreciate the golden tones of Gino.)

 

My first thought: Wow, The Rockers are a hell of a lot bigger than I remember them being. They're giants compared to today's "heavyweights" like Finn Balor, to the point where the size difference between The Rockers and PoP is a lot less pronounced than I was expecting.

 

The crowd heat is off the charts. I have no idea if the audio was sweetened or the mic-ing was different back then, but these fans sound so LOUD compared to today.

 

The Rockers truly were "tag team specialists" as they were called. The quick tags, double-team maneuvers, constant inning and outing - it's even more impressive now than it was 28 years ago, because it's such a lost art these days. I really feel every single tag team today could learn a ton from watching The Rockers. This match solidifies their status in my mind as one of the most underrated tag teams of all time. In addition to the flash, they also had the substance of being absolutely fantastic sellers. The character work and charisma were still works-in-progress, but they obviously nailed that later on - especially Shawn as a singles wrestler.

 

That isn't to diminish what the PoP brought to the table, but this match really was The Rockers Show. Still, PoP had a great look, a fun act with the "devious" Mr. Fuji, and opponents who could sell their asses off. What more can an old-school wrestling fan ask for?
 

The WWF version of "face in peril" formula is as stale now as it was then - the middle of the match dragged because of it - but man, it still felt cathartic when Shawn finally made the hot tag.

 

Marty's tapes were ribbed up. I have no idea if that was a legitimate injury or part of an existing storyline.

 

I wasn't expecting the totally awesome and bonkers stretcher job at the end. The notion of WWE spending nearly that much time on an angle for two midcard tag teams seems so foreign to today's product that it really felt like a breath of fresh air to watch this.

 

No idea what the "star rating" would be for something like this, and it doesn't even matter. The whole of the match is more than the sum of its parts in this case. Great fun to watch, a wonderful nostalgia trip, a useful roadmap for current and future wrestlers, and a bittersweet reminder of how much better things used to be in a lot of ways. Thanks, soup23!



#37 zep81

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:11 AM

I fucking loooooooove this match.
 
Should have been on a PPV somewhere. It's POP's best match and one of the Rockers' best. They bump wonderfully here, the POP are great on offense too, esp Warlord, who looks good throwing the smaller guys around and this formula suits them perfectly and the rockers make them look great. Jannetty in particular is a bumping machine, including this gem;
 
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An excellent tag match that i can't recommend highly enough. Like the Twin Towers/Rockers WM 5 match formula, but much better IMO. Really is one of WWF's diamond tag matches and a huge personal favorite. The classic big man/little man match that's very enjoyable. Fuck the Rockers were really great.






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