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#21 Dylan Waco

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:32 AM

Actually I just thought of another and I feel bad saying it because he was always an interesting interview. But I really think Bad News Coage/Brown sucked. He was a good promo at times, at other times middling. As a wrestler he was boring as shit and often unconvincing for a guy who was a legit badass.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:49 AM

Gran Hamada is probably the most appropriate guy I can think for me in regards to this topic. I have seen him have some really good matches and I have no problem with people touting his influence but his in ring work gets really heavily pimped and most of the time I see him as a crisper version of Tiger Mask and that he also had a good share of off nights. Surprised you didn't think either Muraco/Backlund match was nom worthy Will. I enjoyed the 60 minute draw a good deal but could see it as marginal. The last time I watched the Texas Death Match a couple of years ago, I thought it was one of the best matches in the 80's for WWF.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:58 AM

I guess this is where I mention Mitsuharu Misawa. It's no secret that All Japan 90's is my least favorite type of wrestling style. Misawa just bugs me for some reason. I've seen him have good matches with Jumbo and Kobashi and I like both those guys. And that thing he does with his nose is annoying as hell.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:27 AM

There's several different luchadores I could mention, but that's less about them as individuals and mostly from my general coolness towards that style. I just don't get it on an instinctive level, the way I get other styles that I like. And even then, there's fellows like Mysterio or La Parka whom I absolutely love.

Another vote for Koshinaka. Never did anything for me, and I really hated the ass-centric offense. That kind of bullshit is annoying enough in a comedy match, but the times when the "hip attack" is treated like a serious move are something that nearly enrage me. Fuck all that.

I kinda like Raven, kinda. I like that kind of smoke-&-mirrors style. He was one of the least athletically talented guys to ever become a relatively big star in that era, and I always appreciated how he stretched his meager ability to its absolute furthest limit and papered over the holes with hardcore bullshit that I enjoyed more often than not. And he was able to draw legit heel heat from the ECW arena crowd, which is not a terribly common thing.

Does anyone rate Gary Hart highly as a manager? His promos were okay, but out at ringside he was absolutely goddamn worthless. He wouldn't sell anything, the World Champion would punch him in the face and Gary would just stand there snarling like he's supposed to be an ultimate badass.

I've seen enough people call Justin Credible underrated in revisiting old ECW that I could probably name him here. He's one of those guys who never technically did anything wrong per se, but his entire act left me cold. Always felt like a guy who was cosplaying at being a top heel, as opposed to the real thing.

Along the same lines is Davey Boy Smith. (Not to the same extent, Credible never had a match that was even close to Summerslam '92, but in the same ballpark.) Technically sound, but about 80% of the time he damn near bored me to sleep as a singles wrestler.

#25 Dylan Waco

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:30 AM

I don't like Credible at all, but he really did try hard almost every night out. He's a guy I expected to suck a lot worse than he did in the ring, though as a character he was useless. Really the guy I hate the most is his partner Lance Storm. Just an awful, awful wrestler.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:00 AM

Ooh fuck. Lance Storm. I think I dislike him more than I should because he has this incredibly bizarre following of being a technical marvel, but even if everyone in the world didn't like him I couldn't bring myself to. Man I cannot stand 98% of the Lance Strom I've sat through. Where did he even get this 'master of his craft' label in the first pace? At least someone like the Dynamite Kid did some moves and stuff to where that type of moves-y fan would point and say 'look at THAT! A Bridging Whatever Suplex Piledriver Deluxe!'. I don't remember any instance where Lance Storm appears to be more of a technical mat wizard or guy with a more stacked moveset than John Cena.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 07:14 AM

"Really dislike" might be strong, but after watching the entire All Japan set, I'm still not as high on Tenryu as probably anyone else on this board. He has only one emotion which is to look slightly bored and pissed off. He's had some great matches but I don't like him much at all.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 07:44 AM

The only time I liked Raven in the ring was 1998 in WCW and I chalk that up to working with Benoit and DDP for a lot of the early months.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:00 AM

I really liked Koshinaka on the NJ 80s set :/ I'll throw out The Undertaker as my answer. Taking out his early years in the gimmick, when he was admittedly hamstrung by the constraints of the character, I find most of his stuff to be quite embarrassing. I especially hate the self-indulgent faux-MMA shit.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:07 AM

I should have mentioned Undertaker too. He has some matches I really like. However, my biggest problem with the Undertaker is that his act feels so entitled and selfish. No one ever really points out that having someone who is seen as a cut above every single week-to-week guy who will never put them over in a meaningful way is counterproductive. He will end his career without passing the torch to anyone, and he only sells for guys he sees at his level. If he was a full-timer and everyone in the company was coming after him constantly while he held them off, that would be fine. But the setup right now benefits Undertaker and no one else. I will be very surprised if he has a Michaels/HHH-level match with Punk, simply because I don't anticipate him respecting Punk enough to sell so much for him and let him kick out of the tombstone. Undertaker matches always feel really self-indulgent, like they are making this big production of how much he deserves to be respected, instead of just letting his work speak for itself. When I see him wrestle, it's also a frustrating reminder that it would be nearly impossible for Vince to get *that* behind someone who doesn't prove themselves as a draw first ever again.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:55 AM

Eric Embry. EVERYBODY slurps on this guy whenever Texas wrestling comes up. I just don't get it.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:59 AM

Randy Orton I think the consensus with this one is the same for most people on this particular board. However, people on other boards I frequent love him, and the part that baffles me the most is that in shoot interviews guys always put him over as this phenomenal talent. I have tried to watch his matches from every point of view I can imagine, but I find him boring, uncharismatic, and his timing seems constantly off to me. Also I don't know that anyone likes him, but Dino Bravo may be the single most boring wrestler to ever step between the ropes. and Rick Martel has never done a thing for me.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:05 AM

From my ECW watch a few years ago : Spike Dudley. Balls Mahoney and RVD aren't too far behind. From my current SMW & WCW watch : Jimmy Golden. BORING, DULL, SLEEP INDUCING, UNINTERESTING, ZZZZZZZZZ Add Yumiko Hotta too. Yeah, Bad News was a good promo and looked like shit in the ring. Like Stevie Ray level of shit.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:40 AM

Randy Orton

I think the consensus with this one is the same for most people on this particular board. However, people on other boards I frequent love him, and the part that baffles me the most is that in shoot interviews guys always put him over as this phenomenal talent. I have tried to watch his matches from every point of view I can imagine, but I find him boring, uncharismatic, and his timing seems constantly off to me.

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I don't know that anyone likes him, but Dino Bravo may be the single most boring wrestler to ever step between the ropes.

and Rick Martel has never done a thing for me.


My thing with Orton is, how many times do you get to fail on top before someone finally decides that you shouldn't be pushed so hard. I watched that stupid Ziggler feud from earlier this year and Ziggler never had the advantage for even a tenth of a second in that feud. Why?

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

I think Orton has safely cemented himself as a second-tier guy at best at this point. Punk has surpassed him, and Daniel Bryan probably has too. The Shield looks on track to do so as well. Plus, he has two wellness violations.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:25 AM

Randy Orton is a black hole to me, and pretty much everything I hate about WWE's modern style, including look and pre-progammed maneurisms.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:58 AM

Randy Orton

I think the consensus with this one is the same for most people on this particular board. However, people on other boards I frequent love him, and the part that baffles me the most is that in shoot interviews guys always put him over as this phenomenal talent. I have tried to watch his matches from every point of view I can imagine, but I find him boring, uncharismatic, and his timing seems constantly off to me.

Also

I don't know that anyone likes him, but Dino Bravo may be the single most boring wrestler to ever step between the ropes.

and Rick Martel has never done a thing for me.

You have to watch some pre-WWF Dino Bravo and he'll change your mind.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:17 AM

Eric Embry.

EVERYBODY slurps on this guy whenever Texas wrestling comes up. I just don't get it.


This is WAR MOTHERFUCKER!!!! And the reason I created this thread :) I wanted to see if a name came up that inspired me to create another wrestler thread.


Presumably, this is sort of a self-aware/PWO Conventional Wisdom thing thing, so we're not all going to go "I DON'T LIKE DAVEY RICHARDS" as if that's a big deal. Likewise Demolition since a few of us are outliers there.


Of course. Davey is off limits too. Nobody here likes that guy.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:22 AM

However, my biggest problem with the Undertaker is that his act feels so entitled and selfish. No one ever really points out that having someone who is seen as a cut above every single week-to-week guy who will never put them over in a meaningful way is counterproductive. He will end his career without passing the torch to anyone, and he only sells for guys he sees at his level. If he was a full-timer and everyone in the company was coming after him constantly while he held them off, that would be fine. But the setup right now benefits Undertaker and no one else. I will be very surprised if he has a Michaels/HHH-level match with Punk, simply because I don't anticipate him respecting Punk enough to sell so much for him


Undertaker when he was full time never had a problem working with and putting over guys WAY below his lvl so I really don't think that's an issue for him. He jobed 100% clean to Vladimir Fucking Koslov once.

He's more of a victim of circumstances to whear, he appears so rarely that it would diminish his value to not treat him as an ubber top lvl guy or else why bother and I think at this point, it would do more harm then good to end the streak. It's become such a once in a lifetime big deal to most of the fan base that if they ended it it would only give the guy the wrong type of heat and there'd be a bunch of backlash over it.

My thing with Orton is, how many times do you get to fail on top before someone finally decides that you shouldn't be pushed so hard. I watched that stupid Ziggler feud from earlier this year and Ziggler never had the advantage for even a tenth of a second in that feud. Why?


I think Orton has safely cemented himself as a second-tier guy at best at this point.


Eh, even if you dislike his matches or the way he's booked I don't think you can really objectively say he's failed on top. He's been on the backburner of late but for most of the last 7 or so years he's been the #2 guy in the company behind Cena and he got over huge & did good business in the spot. If he can remain injury free I think he's going right back to the main event title picture the second he turns heel again.

#40 Dylan Waco

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:24 PM

"Really dislike" might be strong, but after watching the entire All Japan set, I'm still not as high on Tenryu as probably anyone else on this board. He has only one emotion which is to look slightly bored and pissed off. He's had some great matches but I don't like him much at all.



If we are going this route, I could and have said basically the same thing about Jumbo. Great wrestler that I am totally disinterested in on any level.




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