goodhelmet Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Rob Naylor and I revisit some of our favorite ECW moments with the man who probably has seen more ECW matches than anyone else alive. Gabe Sapolsky gives his insight into what made ECW special as we look at the highs and lows from the Bingo Hall in Philly. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/goodhelmet/20...h-gabe-sapolsky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 That was a real fun show. I'm hoping for a SMW one in the future. One that will put Smothers in the proper light. Still I enjoyed the ECW one. I'm not the biggest ECW fan but did enjoy a lot of it. ECW was truly the circus is coming to town analogy that bookers like to use when putting together a show. So again a real cool podcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Enjoyed the show. Loved Gabe's take on J.T. Smith who is a guy I've always marked out hard for. Of course I disagreed vehemently with almost every other opinion seemed to have. But the show was still fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Another fun show at least Gabe showed some humour and self awareness at the end about the Richards deal. Shame the guy who filmed a tonne of him didnt share Will's love of Smothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Sapolsky's on the record as hating Memphis style wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Sapolsky's on the record as hating Memphis style wrestling. Which is funny because ECW was heavily influenced by Memphis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Sapolsky's on the record as hating Memphis style wrestling. That's nothing new, though. One of his comments about ECW under Eddie Gilbert's booking was that it wasn't a good product and "very Memphis" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Sapolsky's on the record as hating Memphis style wrestling. Which is funny because ECW was heavily influenced by Memphis. ECW in a lot of ways was the complete Anti Memphis too. I almost never want to watch Memphis wrestling but I do like ECW (although not all things in it) Memphis had some good wrestling but they had all of my biggest, stupidest roll your eyes back in your head pet peeves in wrestling too. A little bit of anti Memphis Japanese wrestling always washes that bad taste out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 You're stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 You're stupid. Memphis is often corny wrestling. Why do you think so many wrestling fans dislike Memphis wrestling? ECW wasn't though it could be at times. Japan is often anti Memphis wrestling which is refreshing. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Pure state of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Who are these "so many fans"? On boards where I've seen Memphis come up, I can count the posters who dislike it with one hand and still have fingers left over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I'm willing to bet most of those fans are from the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 I'm willing to bet most of those fans are from the UK Ive no idea why you would say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 KrisZ hasn't heard of the Real In Memphis message board? For shame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I was joking, of course I've been to RIM over the years. But seriously you gotta wonder what sick guys don't like Memphis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.L.L. Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I'm willing to bet most of those fans are living inside Resident Evil's head. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Jerry Lawler has sex with fourteen year olds. You can't respect that. Now if you are killing your wife and child, that's going that extra mile for da biz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Memphis had some good wrestling but they had all of my biggest, stupidest roll your eyes back in your head pet peeves in wrestling too. RE, I say this with all sincerity, not to bust your chops like others seem to. Please elaborate on the biggest stupidest, roll your eyes pet peeves that you found when watching varous Memphis stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Evil Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I'm willing to bet most of those fans are living inside Resident Evil's head. Fixed. From Bret Hart's book "Memphis had always been the most insane outpost of the goofiest and phoniest types of wrestling and wrestlers, going back to the 1960s" "We had a great time working the fans up and went on to have a fabulously phony match" Some of my thoughts as well but I suppose I'm majically reading them from Bret's book which must have never existed. Memphis just has too much phony wrestling. The king maybe the phoniest of all. A lot of people share those thoughts as well. I know it maybe cool now to like the faker wrestling and diss the more realistic wrestling (see Dylan's nonsensical comments) but I'm just telling it like it is. If you like it fine, but if you were to ever take a worldwide fan survey among wrestling fans who were educated, Memphis would come out on top for being the phoniest. You probably want to respond with some kind of all prowrestling is phony garbage but save it. It doesn't change reality. Jerry Lawler has sex with fourteen year olds. You can't respect that Let's hope he doesn't have sex with 5 yr olds. That is true evil. Now if you are killing your wife and child, that's going that extra mile for da biz Your actions in the IWC indicate you love having extra ammo -- murder -- in your made up inaccurate wrestling analysis attacks on Benoit which even existed before he got brain damaged from wrestling and killed Nancy and Daniel. I think that's sick. And using murders in a futile attempt to try to put me down on a message board? That's pretty sick too. Get over it. I think Terry Taylor vs Rip Rogers is an excellent match while you have it listed as good. It's a difference of opinion. DEAL with it. RE, I say this with all sincerity, not to bust your chops like others seem to. Please elaborate on the biggest stupidest, roll your eyes pet peeves that you found when watching varous Memphis stuff. Mike, sorry but I just can't go back and watch more Memphis wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Mike, sorry but I just can't go back and watch more Memphis wrestling. Oh come on, dude, that's a total copout. You don't have to go back and watch anything. You can't come up with a single solitary memory of a match, angle, interview that you found to be eye rollingly bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 He wants to watch more realistic wrestling. Punches of course are not as realistic as flying headbutts or shitty, jacked up roid headed midgets that don't sell anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I know that bagging on Pegasus is practically a beer-league sport among this crowd, and I'm not defending his position. But you guys were awfully quick to dismiss the idea of anyone not liking the Memphis style. I'm one of them (Admittedly with me, it's just that I worked so many goddamn Tennessee shitty indy shows which so desperately ripped off every aspect of that old territory, and familiarity definitely bred contempt.) But it's perfectly understandable that some folks just might not like that stuff. Maybe they're not a fan of brawling, or maybe they hate walk-n-talk tactics, maybe they're Gabe Sapolsky. I knew plenty of younger wrestlers from all around the old territory's footprint who didn't think much of Memphis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Pegasus makes it too easy with his nonsensical opinions that he usually can't even defend when called upon to do so. For example, if he would say he dislikes Memphis because it stretches the suspension of disbelief that a midget like Bill Dundee could be seen as a top heel. I wouldn't necessarily agree with him, but I could see how someone could think that. Instead, he just lays out blanket statements that are offered up like a slow pitch softball for everyone else to tee off on. I mean this is the territory that had silliness all the way up to the 90s with Glen Jacobs as the Christmas Creature, yet Pegasus can't give any examples of Memphis wackiness he doesn't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodes Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Wild Pegasus generally likes to back up his arguments by using the results of mythical surveys that have not taken place, and which he has in fact made up. He uses these non-existent results to justify his thoughts - conducting worldwide fan surveys of 'educated' fans in his own mind, making up the results and using those invented results to present conclusions. It's a bizarre debating tactic. Most prominent exponents of phony Memphis wrestling seem to be doing relatively OK as far as general health and quality of life goes by wrestling standards: Lawler, Dundee, Dutch, Idol, Fabulous Ones, Fargo, Landell, Koko, Fuller etc.. Whereas on the realistic wrestling side we have some of Pegasus' (the voice of the educated fan) favorites like Misawa (crippled, dead), Kobashi (crippled, drugged up just to be mobile), Dynamite Kid (crippled, destitute, insane) and Benoit (lunatic who killed himself, his wife and his son). All in their state they're in as a result of realistic wrestling for educated fans. It doesn't change reality How about that reality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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