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#101 Matt D

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 09:23 PM

vs. Ron Miller (12/77)

 

This appears to be from Jim Barnett's Australian WCW. Interesting little segment beforehand as Race's scheduled opponent, Kevin Martin, is injured giving him the default win, but Ron Miller says that he's ready to take on the champion. Race objects. "This is absolutely ridiculous ... I'm not wrestling this man on television, it's an embarrassment." Race thinks that Miller is a "ringer".

 

The bell rings and nonetheless, Race gets in the ring. It's surreal watching this, the Aussie commentator is so stereotypical that the whole thing feels like a spoof.

 

Suplex by race. Action goes to the outside. Race hits a flying crossbody from the top rope and the momentum takes him over for Miller to get the pin for 1, 2, 3!

 

Miller pinned Race!!! So is it NEW World Champions Ron Miller?

 

Guess it was a non-title match. But wow, the crowd is happy for Miller. From this evidence, I don't think Miller is a lost worker or anything.

 

Awesome slightly psycho promo by Race afterward with a massive cut on his head. "Well I bloody well pinned ya didn't I", goads Miller. Race is going fucking crazy here. AWESOME promo.

Everyone needs to see the promo, btw. The match is on youtube.



#102 ohtani's jacket

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 11:34 PM

Race talking into the camera like that was hilarious and the commentator's reaction looked like something out of the old Aussie comedy Frontline. 



#103 JerryvonKramer

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 02:43 AM

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#104 JerryvonKramer

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 02:45 AM

Need this one isolated as a general reaction.

Can't wait to use it in response to a typical Matt D post!

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#105 Jimmy Redman

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 03:17 AM

"Well I bloody well pinned ya didn't I??" is the most Aussie thing I've ever heard. That was a fun little segment.



#106 JerryvonKramer

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 12:25 PM

Harley Race vs. Andre the Giant (1/7/79)

Courtesy of the new NWA Classics and so a backwards time travel for us from the Summer of 1982 where we left off to the Summer of 1979 when Race still had the belt. Commentary is by Bruce Tharpe and his buddy recorded in 2015.

This was worked very logically and the first two falls could be divided into shine - transition (finish of first fall) - heat - finish (finish of second fall). Andre for his part worked a lot of holds on Harley's arm and he used his weight to good advantage during all of that. This is a little bit different from a lot of the Harley I've seen because Andre keeps him grounded. If I had to imagine this match before watching it, I'd have thought we'd have seen Harley bumping around for the Giant, but they work a more mat-based affair. Finish to the first fall sees Harley nail Andre with a chair in the gut before bodyslamming him on the concrete -- this must be the bodyslam they were still hyping in Dallas in the 1982 stuff I've been watching recently. So cool to hear about it and then see it like that. The spot with Harley hurting his own head with the falling headbutt was pretty cool and not a standard Race spot at all.

Second fall had a long-ish bearhug by Harley and I'd have preferred to have seen him drop a few more knees and variety of offense. But the butterfly suplex by Andre looked great and the big splash for the finish like it might have killed a man.

Third fall and the match sort of peters out, but the finish is one I've not seen before and I've seen a hell of a lot of BS finishes watching Harley, Brisco and The Sheik this past year.

All-in-all, this was very enjoyable and in the context of Harley defenses from the period, one of the better ones I've seen because it wasn't worked with the Giant getting 95% of all the offense, unlike the bouts against Backlund and Steamboat. They were able to tell a good story.

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#107 JerryvonKramer

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 08:06 AM

Dates for remaining Harley matches from new uploads (for my own reference):

Harley Race vs. Dick Murdoch (2/12/81)
Harley Race and Stan Hansen vs. Giant Baba and Jumbo Tsuruta (4/21/82)
Harley Race and Dick Slater vs. Giant Baba and Jumbo Tsuruta (12/13/82)
Harley Race and Nick Bockwinkel vs. Stan Hansen and Bruiser Brody (11/23/84)



#108 JerryvonKramer

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 11:13 AM

Harley Race vs. Dick Murdoch (2/12/81)

Girls with flowers, cheesy 70s keyboards, this can only mean one thing! It's AJPW. Race has his moustache and is in a cool robe. Murdoch is in a red AJ tracksuit like a young boy. Race is NWA champ here, obviously.

Hip toss. Headlock takeover and into a headlock. Murdoch on offense. Gorilla press slam by Murdoch. Back to the headlock. Couple of punches and another gorilla press slam. Back to the headlock. I'm honestly not trolling on Will but I do find Murdoch boring at times. Doesn't connect with me as a worker, at least not when he's working in this 70s technical mould.

Action goes outside and several weird chair shots now where it is clearly Race who his hitting himself with the chair and Murdoch barely helping. Weird. Some of the worst chair shots I've ever seen, and I've watched WWF in 1979.

Race goes for a suplex but it gets reversed. Comes back with headbutts. Dumps him. Back in and Murdoch nails a piledriver. Sleeper. Race goes for a piledriver ... Reversed. Of course this is NWA champ Harley so he can't hit a single move of offense. Yawn.

Atomic drop outside the ring by Murdoch. Race comes back and they brawl into the crowd. Double count out.

Man, this was crap. How disappointing. Harley on NWA title defense autopilot and Murdoch brought very little to this heatless affair. Easily the worst match I've seen from the new uploads.

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#109 Matt D

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 04:17 PM

Race and Bockwinkel vs Hansen and Brody was a pretty lame match, completely due to Hansen and Brody not giving Race and Bock anything at all. I think combined, over 15 exchanges, there was one minute out of ten, usually just for seconds at a time, where Brody or Hansen were selling or at any risk at all. This is the Hansen I really don't like at all. 

 

The post match brawl, on the other hand, makes this whole thing worth watching.



#110 Superstar Sleeze

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:55 PM

Great stuff, Parv!

 

Harley is not someone I am generally too fond of. I know it has been parroted before, but I see him as a bomb thrower with no psychology. The match with Martel in the AWA is a great example of this. Though, I have watched Harley Race matches that I really do enjoy.

 

Harley does not seem to have that classic, iconic match that everyone points to as his best. So what do people think is the best Harley Race match?

 

I ask because I just watched the Texas Death match with Hogan in 87 in fucking loved it. I also rated the Baba 10/31/79 match very highly. I agree with Parv that two matches with the Von Erich boys are standouts. What else is there?



#111 Childs

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:05 AM

The Funk match from the NWA Houston footage is genuinely great.

#112 NintendoLogic

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:10 AM

I thought Harley looked great in the Funk and Andre matches (I'd personally give the nod to the latter). He's the guy whose stock rose the most in my eyes from the Houston footage.



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 08:52 AM

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Great reaction, also same guy below would you believe. Would give Harley a run for his money.

 

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