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#21 Johnny Sorrow

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:31 PM

Yup.





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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:56 PM

Extra cool points for the Spanish commentary version. :)

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:47 AM

Watched that Savage/Garvin cage match and man is Poffo's commentary brutal. Sucks all the life out of the match. I switched it to mute and could appreciate the match more, but it wasn't just Poffo's commentary that made the match feel monotonous. I didn't think much of the rhythm in this match. It pretty much followed the same note all match long, and for as much crap as the WWF gets for its cage match rules I don't really see why the cage was necessary here. They could have had the exact same match without it. Pretty average.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:14 PM

OK, time for something good. This is prime Savage, not the sad version El-P is subjecting himself to in 1999.

Vs. Nick Bockwinkel, 4/15/85, Memphis

This is near the end of Savage's run in Memphis and only a couple of months before he joined the WWF. Wild start with Savage attacking Bock before the bell. Savage is out of control and Bock is fired up, and only seconds into the match they are brawling outside the ring. Questions for those more familiar with Memphis history than I: 1) Who was the announcer? It's not Russell. 2) Who was Dutch Newman, Savage's manager? I don't think I've heard of him before. Savage and Bockwinkel are going at it like they are in a heated feud with each other. Were they? This is a total brawl. Savage takes a licking from Bock early, so more signature Savage selling. Savage breaks out his famous foreign-object-in-the-trunks spot and takes control. Even though Bock is the babyface he wrestlers very viciously, and this match is almost like a battle of two heels at times. Man, and no shock to those going through the AWA set, Bock was still really good in 85. And Savage looks every bit the star that would take NYC by storm in a few short months. Eventually interference from Newman leads to Bock being distracted, the ref turns his back to deal with Newman, and Savage nails Bock with the illegal-in-Memphis piledriver for the 1-2-3.

This was nice little brawl. Fast-paced, and both men looked good. Finish seemed a little rushed, though. I've liked pretty much everything I've seen of Randy in Memphis, and this was no exception.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:50 PM

I liked that match a lot and I actually reviewed in the Nick Bockwinkel thread (the one drawback of these styles of threads). I really loved the pace they cut and how continuous the action was throughout the match. So I got the impression from the match that Bock was actually presented as a babyface in this match. I definitely remember th ecommentator remarking how weird it was that Bock was getting cheered in Memphis. So it may have been heel vs heel, but the fans choose the outsider Bock to root for, which demonstrates how bitchin Savage is as a heel. Savage is such a greta heel because he has no redeemable qualities. He is such a low-down, paramoid, jelaous, cowardly prick that you can even turn Bock babyface in Memphia against him. Savage is my favorite wrestler ever and he is so good at character work in matches. I loved the finish. There is just something epic about a ballshot-piledriver combo. It just seems so final. Lastly, as always I want to mention how awesome Bock's knee lift and drop toehold are.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:17 PM

Yeah, I had a "didn't someone just recently review this match?" feeling when I wrote this up last night. I was too lazy to check. Honestly, I totally forgot there was even a Bockwinkel thread, let alone a 6 page one that was only started in January.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:34 PM

Randy is my pick for the #4 guy.

Also, this article is really good: http://bleacherrepor...acho-man-savage

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 07:11 AM

WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage w/Sherri - 6/89 Boston I like this match better than Wrestlemania V because at this point the angle has changed. Savage has moved on with a new woman and now the feud is more about the WWF Title rather than Elizabeth so it does not necessitate an out of control brawl. Instead, Savage can do all his Memphis bullshit and make it look good in the WWF ring. He tosses in a chair and Hogan just pops a squat, which is pretty amusing. Savage gets on the mic and does a little trash talking. Nothing phases Hogan so Savage attacks with the cape to blind Hogan. This sets up the story that Savage always needs some nefarious tactics to get one over on Hogan. Hogan oversells again at the beginning, but take controls pretty quickly with an atomic drop and rights. He is very energized for this match and they do all the staple spots like Savage hiding behind Sherri. When Sherri gets on the ring apron, the goofy Hogan comes out and it is pretty funny. Savage hits him with a high knee. Savage takes over with liberal help from Sherri, which is very different from Elizabeth. Hell, it si very different from most managers you dont see Heenan, Fuji or Hart get this involved. Hogan makes his comeback off a chinlock, but Sherri trips him and he goes after Sherri, but Savage jumps on him with all his weight while Hogan's neck is across the ropes. That was a great spot. Savage receives a foreign object from Sherri and hits Hogan with it from thE top rope. KICK OUT! HULK-UP! Big boot and Savage powders drawing Hogan to the outside. Savage into the post and Sherri jumps on Hogan's back. Hogan threatens to hit SHerri and Savage pushes Hogan into the railing. Savage wins by countout. Hogan makes his comeback clears the ring. He hits an atomic dorp on Sherri. "ATOMIC DROP! AND EVERYBODY LOVES IT!" - Tony Schiavone. It was a very fun match, but I don't think these two ever reached that masterpiece status together, but they always had good matches. I was surprised at the countout finish. I would have figured Hogan was beating Savage clean around this point unless they wanted to keep him "healthy" for Summerslam.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 07:52 AM

Savage was working that match with a bad elbow injury too.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:23 AM

I remember years ago that a Meltzer talking point was that Savage was hit or miss , and didn't work hard every night. I guess he deduced that from Savage using more schtick in matches with the George Steel, HTML, and that ilk.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:36 PM

I believe Savage's body of work holds up much better over time compared to some other guys from late 80s-mid 90s wwf. Take Dibiase for example. While he has a memorable gimmick,his best stuff was in mid south. Curt Hennig also had a great gimmick but his best stuff was in the AWA. Savage had was great at both face/heel, promos,selling,offense, and like it has already been said, his intensity put him over the top. It's his intensity that makes his feuds memorable along with the fact that he always took it up a notch on ppv. Great angle and matches from the Steamboat feud. Memorable feud with Honky even if the matches weren't so good. The only reason to watch WM4. Memorable feud with Hogan. Huge match with Warrior at WM. Awesome feud with Jake Roberts. Not quite as awesome performance against Flair at wm. I also thought he showed that he still had something left in WCW. There was the ddp feud and I seem to remember liking the Flair matches at the time. Two questions someone can answer for me. How was the Savage/Tito series from 86 and how does the Savage/Poffo vs Rock n Roll Express match from 84 hold up ? That used to be one of my favorite matches when I was younger but I haven't seen it in many years. It is the piledriver on the table match.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 09:15 PM

The Savage/Tito series is awesome, one of the best WWF feuds of the 80s. Try this one out for a start and work from there:

As far as the match with the RnRs goes, you can judge for yourself :http://www.youtube.c...4...C7F&index=5

This tag match with Randy from Memphis is really good:

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:42 PM

I'm curently working my way through the WWE 3 disc set as it goes, there is a lot of good stuff i nthere, but it only scratches the surface really. he should have another 3 set released with a lot more rare material. I live in hope that the 94 Bret Hart matches were filmed properly and not just existing through fan cam...

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:33 PM

The first time I saw Savage was when wrestling put "the hook" into me as a little kid. Flipping the channels one morning, I see this dude in a bizarre shiny purple cowboy hat with crazy sunglasses and a ridiculous purple jacket with all the tassles. I watch the match and he end up doing the big elbow off the top of course. And I was like, "okay, this stuff is cool. I'm gonna watch more". That's what sticks with me in my head as the moment where as a little kid wrestling had shown me something I'd never seen before and couldn't get anywhere else. I mean, I'm pretty sure I must have seen wrestling before that and watched a bit here and there, but that's the first real concrete memory I have where I decided I really liked wrestling. So hell, I guess if nothing else, blame Randy Savage for me. :P I've never seen his pre-WWF stuff but I should probably get around to that someday.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:39 PM

I had a similar experience. When I was getting into wrestling in 1988 as a 4 year old... Savage was THE coolest. Such an aura about him. Even more so than Hogan in my eyes. I really wish they'd given him a little more variety of opponents in his title run. I want to watch that stuff back and live in my nostalgia for that particular era, but you can only watch so many Savage-Dibiase matches. Then there's Akeem, very finished Andre and Bad News and that's about it. Of course, the heel roster at that time was not particularly strong, so that might have been the bigger issue. Would I really be sitting here 25 years later enjoying Savage-Haku and Savage-Bravo? Probably not.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:33 PM

When I was 11, I was at a super point as a fan. At that point I started taping matches off tv. Which was new to me, because all I had on tape before was the SNME's my dad taped for me, because I couldn't stay up. However, I only had the show until the next one, because my dad used one tape. Anyway, I remember I taped all the matches of one singles guy and one tag team. The singles guy was Savage (this was late 91). The tag team was High Energy (or New Foundation, I forget). I was a huge mark for Savage as a kid and always has been. The first ppv show I had to see the moment it came out on video was WM5, to see Savage-Hogan. I think WM4 was the first ppv that happened from when I starting watching and I love that show to this day thanks to Savage. He is in my personal top 3, easily.

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:50 AM

I just watched the 6/3/89 match from Boston, and went ahead and checked out 10/10/89 from London.  They worked the chair spot in to both matches.  The crowd loved it both times of course.  I think the June match is better, but they were both really fun.  Hogan has Liz with him in London and she gets involved (and Sherri gets involved) quite a bit.  I also googled the Bockwinkel match, because I wasn't sure if I saw that or not on the Memphis set.  Tito Santana vs. Savage popped up from 10/19/1985 (Puerto Rico) instead, so I watched it.  It's not a good match, or really a match by any means, but it was interesting.  It was raining, so they had to work around that, and there were water puddles in the ring.  Savage is the guy that drew me into wrestling as well.  I'm going to try to spend some time looking into whatever I can find that I haven't seen before (or haven't seen in long time). 



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 12:37 PM

Which Savage/Santana match is considered the best?  The link above has expired.  I've been watching a few today (including the more well known 02/08/1986) where Savage wins the IC Title.  But, is there a certain match anyone around here would recommend seeking out?  The MSG match from 05/19/1986 was pretty awesome.  Bruno was the guest ref and Adonis interferes.  Great spot in the match where Savage nails Santana in the back of the head with his knee.  The crowd is nuts for the end. 



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:42 PM

Went on to the NO DQ match from Toronto.  This is my favorite of the feud so far, and I doubt it will be topped.  My favorite from the Steamboat feud also took place at Maple Leaf Gardens.  This one took place on 05/04/1986.  This match starts of pretty heated.  You even have Santana nailing him with a chair within the first minute or two.  It's a great match with lots of brawling.  Savage gets busted open on the ringpost.  It's a total classic.  There's an entrance ramp at ring level, and my favorite spot was probably Tito bouncing Randy's head off of it.  It looked pretty brutal.



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 03:00 PM

I second that recommendation for the Maple Leaf match:

 

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