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#1041 El-P

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 06:26 AM

Back to the Territories with Savio Vega is a must listen for Vega's story about the Brody murder. It paints a pretty shady picture of Victor Jovica to say the least… (and Colon, not much better, but that was known)

 

(EDIT : it's really the main thing too, as they really don't get into much details about the history and go into tangent like talking about Eddie Gilbert)



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Posted 15 October 2017 - 01:09 AM

Back to the Territories with Savio Vega is a must listen for Vega's story about the Brody murder. It paints a pretty shady picture of Victor Jovica to say the least… (and Colon, not much better, but that was known)

 

(EDIT : it's really the main thing too, as they really don't get into much details about the history and go into tangent like talking about Eddie Gilbert)

The murder portion is on youtube. It runs about 18 mins. I think I'm going to hold off watching it until I get the whole shoot. 

 

 
"Hacksaw" Jim Duggan takes us through his early days as a stud athlete, being broken in by Fritz Von Erich, how family connections got him a gig with the WWWF, life traveling the territories, homesteading in Mid-South, fighting with the fans as a heel, being arrested with the Iron Sheik while riding together, his subsequent firing which saw him nearly go to the NWA, the JCP/WWF war, being picked to win the first Royal Rumble, knocking Andre the Giant out on TV, the Ultimate Warrior's diva behavior, and more! 


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 04:24 AM

 
"Mean Gene" covers a range of topics including Macho Man's relationship with Elizabeth, breaking in with the AWA, the Russian monster that was suppose to face Hogan before everything fell apart, the WWF taking all of the AWA stars and how Verne handled business meetings with departing talent, what role Gene could play today if he were still in his prime, Pat Patterson's genius, the toughest guys to get a decent promo out of, life with Andre, being an eyewitness to David Schultz attacking a reporter, his uncordial WWF departure, what story caused the WCW hotline to be flooded with calls, Legend's house, the Hall of Fame, sex tapes and more! 


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 12:57 PM

And so, the latest KC project is Vince Russo hosting interviews to recap the Attitude Era... Well, running out of interesting ideas I guess.



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Posted 06 November 2017 - 04:41 PM

It's more about the things they think will sell that they can make a bit of money on. The ideas are still there.

 

I suggested an AWA 1984 recap with Jim Brunzell, for example. Great year in the AWA with so much talent leaving and debuting, tons going on, lots of potential backstories about Brody, Abby, Patera, the LOD and the Fabs, Pro Wrestling USA the established guys moving back in the card a bit. And Brunzell was there through it, albeit hurt for part of it (surgery recovery), and he can tell good stories and would have a good chance to share inside knowledge in a lot of cases. (plus he's way more believable than Greg Gagne is, by far. Jim just tells you what he remembers how he remembers it).

 

That was shot down pretty quickly. They seem to feel the market for AWA things isn't really there anymore. Can't blame them really, they may be right, but I am sure there are a lot of specialty years from many areas like that which will never get done with that mindset.

 

That would be why "Back to the Territories" does smaller areas in whole as opposed to individual years.

 

Too bad. But again, it's the market.



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Posted 10 November 2017 - 06:49 AM

It's more about the things they think will sell that they can make a bit of money on. The ideas are still there.

 

Seriously, who, in the era of free podcast everywhere, would want to pay for this kind of shit ? (hell, I wouldn't even download it for free)

 

 

Bro...



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Posted 10 November 2017 - 08:32 PM

 

It's more about the things they think will sell that they can make a bit of money on. The ideas are still there.

 

Seriously, who, in the era of free podcast everywhere, would want to pay for this kind of shit ? (hell, I wouldn't even download it for free)

 

 

Bro...

 

While the market is definitely smaller for shoots I think something like this (even though there is nothing valuable to be learned for those who know all about Ken) is more so there for maybe older folks not on the podcast bandwagon and/or don't want to search out audio and enjoy seeing the person being interviewed or those with terrible/no internet who may just rely on physical media at home.



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 05:24 AM

 
Barry Darsow and Bill Eadie sit down to cover their run as one of the top teams of the 80's, growing up with a batch of other Minnesota natives who all became wrestlers, Eadie's near death experience which he says verified the fact that there is an afterlife, how Ric Flair helped make Darsow a star, Andre drinking stories, Haku bar fight stories, issues while working with the Road Warriors and Rougeau Brothers, the infamous match in a semi truck bed that led to Darsow being fired from WCW, and more! 


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:46 AM


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Barry Darsow and Bill Eadie sit down to cover their run as one of the top teams of the 80's, growing up with a batch of other Minnesota natives who all became wrestlers, Eadie's near death experience which he says verified the fact that there is an afterlife, how Ric Flair helped make Darsow a star, Andre drinking stories, Haku bar fight stories, issues while working with the Road Warriors and Rougeau Brothers, the infamous match in a semi truck bed that led to Darsow being fired from WCW, and more! 



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:28 PM

 

It's more about the things they think will sell that they can make a bit of money on. The ideas are still there.

 

Seriously, who, in the era of free podcast everywhere, would want to pay for this kind of shit ? (hell, I wouldn't even download it for free)

 

 

Bro...

 

 

Ken: "incest...and then when you talk about beating up a woman"

Russo: "Who writes this shit? How dare they?"

 

 

What??



#1051 El-P

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 06:05 AM

That's Russo being sarcastic. Or trying to be. Which, considering Ken seems to be serious about that stuff, comes off kinda assholish and self-satisfied.



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Posted 25 November 2017 - 05:31 PM

At the end, he tells Shamrock that the incest angle wasn't his idea, and that it must have been Vince McMahon or JR who came up with it!



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 03:45 AM

 
Tully Blanchard touches on his father's early days as a football player, wrestler and promoter. Next Tully's own background in sports, and how it came together when he became a wrestler himself is touched upon. Blanchard covers the many legends of the sport who served as teachers for him as he grew into a regional star and eventually a nationally known heel. The sad story of Blanchard's friend Gino Hernandez and his fall into a world of drugs in the Dallas underground is gone over, which then transitions into Tully's own woeful tale of drugs wrecking his life. Talk of the glory days of the Horsemen drawing big money and living the high life leads into talk of the downfall of JCP.  Blanchard's WWF run and his limited return to wrestling finish out the interview. Along the way we hear stories on the Magnum TA feud, why Blanchard refused to put over Terry Funk in WCW, the injury that ended his dabbling with indy dates, helping prisoners reform their lives and more!! 


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 07:00 AM

At the end, he tells Shamrock that the incest angle wasn't his idea, and that it must have been Vince McMahon or JR who came up with it!

 

:rolleyes: Russo has really become a professional troll - that's his occupation now. Even the most casual of wresting fans knows J.R. wouldn't come up with rubbish like that - he prefers a serious sports-like presentation over ridiculous soap opera bullshit. I could see the idea coming from Vince McMahon maybe, but not J.R.
 

 

 

Wow, this is new, right?

"The party lifestyle people think the Horsemen lived is a myth. The guys had a hard schedule and by the time they were done wrestling it was late in the evening, and most of the times all that followed was finding some food and having a few beers before bed."

 

The ESPN 30 for 30 documentary on Flair - as well as thousands of other interviews, articles, sources, etc. - give the distinct opposite impression. The Horsemen "party lifestyle" is so woven into wrestling lore, but I guess like everything else in wrestling, it's carny bullshit - assuming "born again" Tully isn't just downplaying his wild past.



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 02:54 PM

Well, consider how the 80's ended for Tully

 

Speaking of which I found this clip recently

 



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Posted 10 December 2017 - 03:07 AM

Maybe Tully is just talking about himself and the others not partying every night, and the fact that not every town was Baltimore or Atlanta. I can see Flair closing the bar at the Holiday Inn in Columbus, but perhaps the others were like, " Yeah, think I'll have a couple of beers and hit the sack."

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Posted 10 December 2017 - 06:18 PM

Maybe Tully is just talking about himself and the others not partying every night, and the fact that not every town was Baltimore or Atlanta. I can see Flair closing the bar at the Holiday Inn in Columbus, but perhaps the others were like, " Yeah, think I'll have a couple of beers and hit the sack."

 

Maybe, but the excerpt specifically mentioned the Horsemen, not just Tully. Then again, it was a recap, not a direct quote, so I guess we'd have to hear/read what Tully actually said word-for-word.



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Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:31 AM

 
Magnum TA, JJ Dillon and Tully Blanchard discuss their memories of the Four Horsemen's legendary first run in JCP. Topics include how the men kept their egos in check while working in a group atmosphere, party life, Dusty Rhodes' booking, Blanchard and Magnum's wars, the car wreck that ended Magnum's career, the exodus of Horsemen members to the WWF in 1988/89, and more!


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 12:59 PM

 

Bro... bullshit... Bro... bullshit... Bro... dumbfuckery.... Bro.... LIES.... Bro.... ego wanking... Bro... 

 

For fuck's sake. Who wants to listen to this shit ?



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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:02 PM

I am a big fan of the Breaking Kayfabe series, as I discussed earlier in this thread.  I actually paid for the episodes with Sabu and New Jack, but you couldn't pay me to watch that crap.  He's basically trolling people at this point. At least Oliver calls him on it, to a degree.






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