MoS Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 I love watching Bruno Sammartino wrestle. I realise he was considered a bad wrestler by many fans, but I absolutely do not care how many holds he can execute. He brings an energy in his matches that is ridiculous, the crowd keeps going absolutely wild, and his physical charisma is the greatest in wrestling history for me. I'm so glad he is on good terms with WWE and they are uploading many of his matches on the Network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 If someone can't appreciate Bruno as a wrestler, that's their loss, because he was so great, in-ring and as a promo. I will always bang the drum for the man. Fuck, maybe I should just do an all-Bruno podcast. I guess I already kinda did with At the Garden. (sorry for not finishing his story for those who listened) Speaking of which, he's on the latest Jericho pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Hoping these are the full shows... the 1 hour versions they were dropping at the beginning were a bit silly. Â Wonder if this was in any way inspired by how much has been going up on Youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 If someone can't appreciate Bruno as a wrestler, that's their loss, because he was so great, in-ring and as a promo. I will always bang the drum for the man. Fuck, maybe I should just do an all-Bruno podcast. I guess I already kinda did with At the Garden. (sorry for not finishing his story for those who listened) Speaking of which, he's on the latest Jericho podI'm about a third of the way through the Jericho pod and Christ, Bruno's mom was a fucking saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Looks like we're getting two years of WWE ECW soon as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I love watching Bruno Sammartino wrestle. I realise he was considered a bad wrestler by many fans, but I absolutely do not care how many holds he can execute. He brings an energy in his matches that is ridiculous, the crowd keeps going absolutely wild, and his physical charisma is the greatest in wrestling history for me. I'm so glad he is on good terms with WWE and they are uploading many of his matches on the Network. Â I don't see how hes regarded as a bad wrestler especially back then, he was great in the ring. Loved his matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickH Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 The one thing I like about Bruno is he doesn't kill his crowds. When you have a hot crowd the punch-kick punch-kick routine is perfect, that's what I like about Austin's matches, to get the crowd as hot as possible with basic offensive moves. Backlund basically did the opposite and killed the crowd with 10 minute headlocks and holds. Â The only matches we are really seeing of Bruno are the blowoff matches which are not "technical" at all, they are mostly cage matches so maybe that's why people think he's an average worker. I really want to see more matches against Ivan Koloff, Koloff seems to be his favorite opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willninho Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 As someone who's probably never seen a prime Bruno match what 2-3 would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickH Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 As someone who's probably never seen a prime Bruno match what 2-3 would you recommend? Â From the recent Bruno Collection on the Network: Â 3/7/77 - Bruno vs Ken Patera 8/1/77 - Bruno vs Billy Graham (Any match with Graham is pretty good) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I read a lot of guys on the internet and in the dirtsheets (as well as wrestlers' autobiographies) where they called Bruno an average or mediocre worker. I disagree and I think he is fucking awesome. I could watch him wrestle for hours. It is very tricky appearing like a superman in the ring without fatiguing the audience or ultimately sucking out all the heat from your matches. Bruno mastered that trick his entire career, including his late 1980s matches. Â Meltzer wrote that as far as selling tickets in the same territory for the longest time, he is the greatest draw in history, and I am not surprised. No one has ever personified the ace role the way Bruno did. You could tell that he absolutely owned the WWWF. I would love a podcast episode dedicated solely to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickH Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I would love a podcast episode dedicated solely to him. Â Jericho just did a 2 hour podcast this week with Bruno at his favorite restaurant . Great listen. Seriously this man needs the full dvd treatment. Â https://player.fm/series/talk-is-jericho/bruno-sammartino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 How fucking hard is it to write BAYLEY as A HAPPY PERSON? Â That's the whole problem right there. The issue with WWE. They got 20 or so "writers", and apparently, none of them are worth shit. As much as some matches can be great these days, the booking, sorry, "writing" is dumb, uninteresting and overall, pretty awful (going back to the "art" argument, if we judge WWE by its stories, acting, dialogues, it's barely above your classic 90's porn in term of quality). Has been the case since WWE became what it is in the very early 00's. No one should "write" Bayley. They should just let her be, and work around that. Easy as fuck. Â "Creative writing" is the worst thing that ever happened to pro-wrestling. (again, we can credit, at least in partly, Vince Russo, who was the first non pro-wrestling guy "writing" pro-wrestling TV) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 that is the thing I don't get. I really don't mean to imply that I would be better at it or to be overly critical of other people's work, but the flatness of WWE's writing on the whole constantly baffles me. Sure, they set up all kinds of hurdles for themselves (3 hours of raw... etc...), but with so many writers and soooooo many resources, there just doesn't seem to be an excuse for this. I assume it is more a problem with micromanagement of writers and of the product more than anything because I just can't believe that there aren't talented writers that are passionate about and understand wrestling that can put together something better than what we USUALLY get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 What is baffling is with the average quality level of TV series these days, they are so behind the times on about every level imaginable. Â That's why Lucha Underground, with its B-movie/comics/pulp aesthetics and a guy like Dario Cueto looks a zillion times more relevant and cool, whatever you may think of the actual quality of the matches (of course no-one seems to be watching it either, but that's another issue) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Looks like we're getting two years of WWE ECW soon as well. Â That rules. It'll be a shame to wait for a while for the years it was actually good but I haven't seen those original, weird 2006 shows since they aired, pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I read a lot of guys on the internet and in the dirtsheets (as well as wrestlers' autobiographies) where they called Bruno an average or mediocre worker. I disagree and I think he is fucking awesome. I could watch him wrestle for hours. It is very tricky appearing like a superman in the ring without fatiguing the audience or ultimately sucking out all the heat from your matches. Bruno mastered that trick his entire career, including his late 1980s matches. Â Meltzer wrote that as far as selling tickets in the same territory for the longest time, he is the greatest draw in history, and I am not surprised. No one has ever personified the ace role the way Bruno did. You could tell that he absolutely owned the WWWF. I would love a podcast episode dedicated solely to him. This podcast is 3 hours of Bruno talk, all about the recent Network collection. Beat that Y2J! http://placetobenation.com/mount-olympus-summer-2017-sammartino-the-legend-lives/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Awesome. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 What is baffling is with the average quality level of TV series these days, they are so behind the times on about every level imaginable. Â That's why Lucha Underground, with its B-movie/comics/pulp aesthetics and a guy like Dario Cueto looks a zillion times more relevant and cool, whatever you may think of the actual quality of the matches (of course no-one seems to be watching it either, but that's another issue) I agree on this. I am way behind on Lucha Underground, but I love it. I bought the first two seasons on iTunes right before they came up on Netflix. It is such a different thing to me. There are lots of pieces of that I don't love or that are really inconsistent, but the sum far exceeds the parts. They are so outside the box and - as you point out - culturally wired in and current that I can't help but love it. Â Â Â I also saw Dario Cueto (or the dude who plays him, more accurately) on a commercial for one of those companies that comes and cleans up after disasters (I think that is what it was for). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 One of the MSG shows is missing. When I click on the 12/79 show, it brings up one from two years earlier instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickH Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 One of the MSG shows is missing. When I click on the 12/79 show, it brings up one from two years earlier instead. The 79 show works fine for me. The 12/77 date is very similar, sure you didn't click on the wrong one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Positive. When the card starts it says it's from 12/77 on top. I'm using an Amazon Fire TV stick so it could just be limited to that, unless it's been corrected by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Works fine for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Did anybody see the new Ride Along last night? It was actually really funny. Sheamus is actually pretty humorous, and his relationship with Cesaro is fun to watch, the way they bicker back and forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Another MSG show from 1977 appeared, and the WWE Network News site (who normally is right about these things) says the July dump is set for the 10th with WWE ECW and perhaps some WCCW stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Forbes: Massive WWE Leak Exposes 3 Million Wrestling Fans' Addresses, Ethnicities And More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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