Ricky Jackson Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Robert S said: What makes the Piper blackface thing so baffling is that it was not a one time thing. He did an interview in blackface a couple of weeks before Wrestlemania on Superstars: If it happened once you could have blamed Piper, as it happened twice you have to blame the company. Well, at least Andre and, I think, Patterson decided to rib Piper for Mania and changed the paint so it wouldn't come off right away, so Piper was stuck looking like that for several days afterward. Or so the story goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 The comments under the videos are... what you'd expect. Maybe Hogan can pull that one off this year. I mean, he's only half racist apparently now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNLister Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Piper-Brown is now removed from the non-Peacock original WWE Network. Thumbnails still there but the video skips straight past it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 22 hours ago, Ricky Jackson said: Well, at least Andre and, I think, Patterson Andre and Skaaland, for the record, which just picturing those two together plotting anything gives me great comedic delight for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Someone shared a clip of the ham-fisted way they edited out Brian Pillman (as Yellow Dog) calling Johnny B. Badd "Johnny B GAY" by adding fake technical difficulties, and if that's the way things are going to be edited going forward the internet outrage will be amazingly hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTLL Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 I don't think the world will miss any of that retrograde shit, but I am concerned that eventually, everything from before about 2010 will be hacked to shit and annoying to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Yeah I wasn't particularly sad that comment was edited out, it was just shocking to see it done in a manner that looked like my 9 year old did it. I can't imagine how like.......75% of ECW stuff is going to pass muster either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, sek69 said: Someone shared a clip of the ham-fisted way they edited out Brian Pillman (as Yellow Dog) calling Johnny B. Badd "Johnny B GAY" by adding fake technical difficulties, and if that's the way things are going to be edited going forward the internet outrage will be amazingly hilarious. That might predate Peacock. I've seen posts from years ago referring to "technical difficulties" on the WWE Network during the Johnny Be Gay promo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 It does, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Well I suppose that's a relief to know the embarrassingly bad edit was a WWE deal and not an NBC one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 So, I get their stance on shit like that, as it pertains to race relations & what not. That's not OK and it's justifiable to me. It's always kind of been a black cloud hanging over pro-wrestling. How are they going to approach violence and sexuality though? Like I imagine The Katt taking off her top will be censored but what about all the thong upskirt shots from ECW or Godfather's women? What about bloody matches or extreme matches with barbed wire & what not? What about man on woman violence, especially in older content? Dark Journey eating the DDT from a blind Jake Roberts with the crowd losing their minds is a good moment in history but, does it hold up now or is it too much? It's going to be interesting in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Well, they didnt edit out Pillman's "You know what a mark is?" promo from Cyberslam 96, so they arent going completely crazy with censorship. Wonder how they'll handle Heat Wave 99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 I’m surprised they don’t have a premium tier where everything is uncensored and charge extra for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Personally, I hope all the footage has to be edited to the point where it becomes completely unwatchable and it ends up being a huge black eye for both NBC and WWE. It's what they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 For those that have signed up for the ad-supported Peacock, how prevalent are the ads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, WingedEagle said: For those that have signed up for the ad-supported Peacock, how prevalent are the ads? Aside from Fastlane (which had no ads live except for the ones WWE had already built in), I've only watched The Broken Skull Sessions with Randy Orton so far. Other than the show not really being formatted for ad breaks, it was fine. Maybe 5-6 ads, about 30-60 seconds each - not bad at all. Edit: Same for the Saved by the Bell and Punky Brewster revivals, except there are obviously going to be less ads in a 24-minute episode than there would be in a two-hour Broken Skull Sessions, and those shows are formatted specifically to take ad breaks into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Thanks, that doesn't sound too terrible. Tonight I got the email that my network subscription is done as of tomorrow, so I'll probably try the deal they're offering for the ad-supported Peacock and see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Reedy Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 I think this is probably going to end up being overblown. They've got ECW and Attitude Era stuff up untouched. If the line is blackface and the N-word then that's not going to have a huge impact on footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 I had Royal Rumble 2000 on today and Bubba Ray taking a chairshot to the head, Triple H bleeding all over the place, and the Bikini Contest/Mae Young segment aired pretty much untouched from what they were on the WWE Network, so I really do think a lot of people are unnecessarily sounding the alarm because of the two instances of editing so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTLL Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Hey, that's a good sign. Peacock Premium Plus, or whatever they call the ad-free version, is the same price as the Network was before, or 25% off if you use the 4-month promo code ("PEACOCKMANIA"). And if you are a cable subscriber, you probably already have access to the Premium tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetCrawler Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 For me the censored stuff isn't as much of a concern as the slowwwwwwwwwwwwww trickle of the vault stuff. Is every single RAW and Smackdown even up on Peacock yet? The old stuff is the only reason I ever bothered with the Network to begin with so I feel like I shouldn't even bother with this until the apparent August deadline which to be honest, I'm extremely skeptical of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Steel Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 I've been skipping the Piper/Brown match for decades. I didn't even like the match when I was a kid and gladly watched Skinner squash matches. Still, I'm torn on the precedent this sets. I do think it's a slippery slope when it comes to deeming what is and isn't acceptable for consumption, especially in an era where it seems like some people are looking to find fault in almost anything. But, I agree with those who are saying that the Network then and now (and maybe forever?) wasn't intended to be a permanent historical archive. Hell, content leaves other streaming platforms every month. In that sense, we got spoiled that relatively little content left the network over seven years. Moreover, NBC shelled out the bucks for the rights to the content, so it's their call on how they want to handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNLister Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Most of the time stuff leaves streaming platforms is because it's licensed for a set period, though. One of the key benefits of WWE Network is/was that it owned all the footage so there's no need to remove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 3/28/2021 at 2:15 AM, PhilTLL said: And if you are a cable subscriber, you probably already have access to the Premium tier. Cable subscribers get the $5 plan with ads for free. I think it's an extra $5 if you want to upgrade to the one without ads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTLL Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 hours ago, C.S. said: Cable subscribers get the $5 plan with ads for free. I think it's an extra $5 if you want to upgrade to the one without ads. Yeah for some reason the middle tier is called premium and there's not a catchy name for the actual premium tier other than "ad-free". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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