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Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:12 PM

Bob Caudle continues to be my favorite announcer on these shows. I'm biased since he was one of the ones I grew up with, and I get how someone who grew up with Memphis could see him as a discount Lance Russell, but it's like watching wrestling with your Grandpa while he does his best to keep these beasts from destroying the studio during interviews.



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:18 PM

I'm totally befuddled how Jacques Goulet beat Dusty in the first round of the 81 US Title Tournament. It was absolutely hilarious when Crockett was interviewing McGee about Idol's figure four and ran out of time while McGee was trying to explain what part of the leg it affected on him because he was so short. The production value, in general, feels laughable, even relative to other territories in 81.

 

I heard a story lately that Jake got named "The snake" by Valiant on his way in and I don't think this footage bears that out, but we're missing stuff and I don't know how long Valiant was off TV during the transition between Handsome and Boogie-Woogie. At the first bit of footage, he's got the hat with the snake on it, and he's called that by Youngblood in October when they're showing the hype video for "man from new york city" valiant, which obviously lost the song.



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:57 PM

I think Mid Atlantic TV in 1981 comes off far more polished than WWF, WCCW and AWA and several other territories for sure. Actually, I think you could make the argument that overall--talent, in-ring, promos, business, TV--Mid Atlantic was the most well rounded territory going at the time

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:25 PM

It has a lot going for it but It feels much more botchy, production wise. Some of that may be WWE's music dubs, maybe. Maybe?



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:02 PM

Oh the dubs are awful. Come on Vince, forget about football and for the love of God open up the wallet and pay for the music rights!

Really good match between Piper and Jay Youngblood on the 10/17/81 show

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 09:12 PM

Oh the dubs are awful. Come on Vince, forget about football and for the love of God open up the wallet and pay for the music rights!

Really good match between Piper and Jay Youngblood on the 10/17/81 show

That's where I'm stuck because i can't just half watch it like I've been doing.



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:53 AM

I certainly wasn't expecting to see Mr. Pogo show up and get a run as the Ninja. The announcers complete bafflement at him doing the green mist was amazing.



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 06:37 PM

I think Mid Atlantic TV in 1981 comes off far more polished than WWF, WCCW and AWA and several other territories for sure. Actually, I think you could make the argument that overall--talent, in-ring, promos, business, TV--Mid Atlantic was the most well rounded territory going at the time


I don't know, I've watched a ton of Mid-Atlantic TV since the release and it's fun, but I keep thinking about how Memphis at this time seemed 15 years ahead of everyone when it came to TV. Overall roster and house shows could be different.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:36 PM

Oh for sure, Memphis was awesome and had the most enjoyable TV show. But I think Mid Atlantic had a deeper pool of full time talent and bigger business. It's close. Georgia is also in the conversation

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:23 AM

Oh for sure, Memphis was awesome and had the most enjoyable TV show. But I think Mid Atlantic had a deeper pool of full time talent and bigger business. It's close. Georgia is also in the conversation

I guess WWE is just going to have to dump a ton of Georgia on the network so we can settle this.



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 02:50 PM

Is the Georgia footage in decent shape? I've never seen anything that didn't look like a 7th gen VHS transfer (even on offical WWE releases) which is odd considering they taped at the WTBS studios and Ted Turner is famous for being obsessed with preservation. 



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:28 PM

Some is in rough shape but there is a bunch out there in good quality. KrisZ's YouTube channel has a ton

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:53 PM

What I've seen from Georgia seems like better TV than this Mid-Atlantic. But I've seen old school Carolinas fans say the really good period of TV was late 70s taping in Raleigh which was less cramped, George Scott booking, and Flair still around regularly. That stuff sounds amazing.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 07:05 PM

Yeah, my main complaint about Mid Atlantic after going through a half dozen episodes is that everybody seems to be feuding with everybody and nothing stands out. Sgt. Slaughter's progress from debuting, quickly winning the US title, and then recruiting Jim Nelson and doing the full drill sargeant routine on him is a ton of fun though

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:34 PM

Yeah, my main complaint about Mid Atlantic after going through a half dozen episodes is that everybody seems to be feuding with everybody and nothing stands out. Sgt. Slaughter's progress from debuting, quickly winning the US title, and then recruiting Jim Nelson and doing the full drill sargeant routine on him is a ton of fun though

 

It sounds like one problem is us not getting to see the local promos that gave more clarity to what's going on. Like, we see a segment with Sandy Scott saying there will be a cage match between Slaughter/Kernodle-Steamboat/Youngblood, but the real hype for the match must have just been in local promos that aren't here. Like, wasn't there a stip that Stemaboat and Youngblood would have to split up if they lost? We don't get that.

 

Georgia TV has the advantage that it was on TBS so we get to see everything. Memphis WMC footage is ideal, but often the Louisville or Evansville feeds would have cards close enough to the MSC show to get a feel for what's going on. Territories like Crockett and New York had more general TV since they were running so many different shows. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken here.



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:52 PM

It feels like we're a little lacking on results to fill in the gaps too.



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Posted Yesterday, 04:08 AM

Some is in rough shape but there is a bunch out there in good quality. KrisZ's YouTube channel has a ton

 

Would that be because Georgia were mailing out episodes to customers?

 

Or am I thinking of Mid South?



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Posted Yesterday, 06:52 AM

 

 Like, wasn't there a stip that Steamboat and Youngblood would have to split up if they lost? We don't get that.

 

 

 

 

That stip was put in at the contract signing between the two teams.



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Posted Yesterday, 01:54 PM

In regards to Georgia they recently showed footage of someone from Georgia on the network , and the clip looked great.

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Posted Yesterday, 01:56 PM

Yeah, my main complaint about Mid Atlantic after going through a half dozen episodes is that everybody seems to be feuding with everybody and nothing stands out. Sgt. Slaughter's progress from debuting, quickly winning the US title, and then recruiting Jim Nelson and doing the full drill sargeant routine on him is a ton of fun though


Looking at the results it seems they were finishing up programs and starting new ones around this time.




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