[1998-06-22-WWF-Raw] Edge vs Jose Estrada

[Loss]

Talk about it here.

[Loss]

YOU THINK YOU KNOW ME. Edge debuts. Funny that Jose Estrada is still around. To his credit, Edge gets himself over well with this crowd and shows a lot of charisma. He wins by countout after Estrada can't get up from the somersault plancha. Odd finish, but this mostly worked. Did Jose get legit injured?

[PeteF3]

Yes, as bad as Bagwell was. The WWF lucked out that this was a taped Raw because things were held up for 30+ minutes.

[Zenjo]

Just like the Bagwell injury this was an innocuous looking bump at first glance. Had this been a fake serious injury angle then there'd have been 20m of hushed tones and terrible acting with Estrada returning at the end of the show. As it was a real serious injury they swept it under the carpet and you never heard of him again. I'm sure the guy was released whilst he was laid out with a broken neck. Pieces of meat.

[Eduardo]

I'm sure the guy was released whilst he was laid out with a broken neck. Pieces of meat.

 

He became a regular in the WWF SuperAstros program, where he had singles and tag team matches with El Hijo Del Santo and Negro Casas in his first few appearances. Later in that series when Savio Vega started booking (I think that's what I heard later online), he became part of the Los Boricuas vs El Merenguero (Jesús 'Hurucan' Castillo, Jr.) storyline. I believe Estrada's last appearance was in the WWF SuperAstros series finale, when Los Boricuas (Vega, Estrada, and Castillo, Jr. who had now turned babyface) reunited for a trios match against Apolo Dantes, Pantera, and Papi Chulo, in August 1999.

[The Chief]

Weird that there were no repercussions for Edge, as far as I remember. I mean, you break a guy's neck in your very first televised match.. .

[soup23]

This is one of those little tidbits I wasn't familiar of but was interesting going back to see that Edge caused a serious injury in his first match. Everything he did up to that point was fine. (1/2 *)

[FLIK]

Did Jose get legit injured?

It's funny cause I assumed this was the only reason it made the set. Forgot abt it being his debut. Edge never did that move after this.

[Superstar Sleeze]

Edge sucked at acting right out of the gate. Shitty spear and then nearly kills someone. Edge is the worst.

 

Also funny that Lawler and JR sometime call him The Edge

[PeteF3]

I like the gimmick and he was clearly a guy with promise, but it doesn't really fit with Adam Copeland's more natural persona as a smartass. That was a pretty brutal shot. My original post overexaggerated the nature of the injury--it was bad and he was hospitalized, but it was "just" a stinger/pinched nerve rather than the temporary and almost permanent paralysis suffered by Bagwell.

[TravJ1979]

Edge was awful as a character here. "Arrrgghhh, I'm a tortured soul!" Breaks necks in first match in WWE, ends career with broken neck. Karma.

 

Also, wonder if his frustration with the count out was because he hurt the guy or cause he didn't get to get all of his shit in for his debut.

[PeteF3]

Also, wonder if his frustration with the count out was because he hurt the guy or cause he didn't get to get all of his shit in for his debut.

 

Pretty sure the latter part was exactly it. The all-time worst example of this kind of reaction is the infamous Kidman-Malenko match at Souled Out '00, where Dean forgets the rules and bails out of the ring, costing himself the match. Kidman's visible reaction is one of annoyance and frustration--hello, you won and the announcers are trying to put over how you caught a huge fucking break. ACT like it.