Matt D Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'd probably rather watch the whole HUSTLE history with subtitles if I could now. You know, if we could crowdfund this, we could make this whole thing worth it somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'd probably rather watch the whole HUSTLE history with subtitles if I could now. You know, if we could crowdfund this, we could make this whole thing worth it somehow. Apparently a number of the shows exist, unreleased, with English commentary by Bas Rutten and Mauro Ranallo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Casebolt Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'd probably rather watch the whole HUSTLE history with subtitles if I could now. You know, if we could crowdfund this, we could make this whole thing worth it somehow. Apparently a number of the shows exist, unreleased, with English commentary by Bas Rutten and Mauro Ranallo. So, back to the subtitles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilclown Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Workrate was a movement first and foremost, a way for online fans to distinguish themselves from the marks in the crowd. Sure, the people in the audience and THE IDIOT BOOKER loved Nash and Hogan. But we knew better. We knew that the best wrestlers in the world are the guys who opened Nitro. We knew it was those little Mexican guys in ECW. Workrate was spots and sustained action, but it's more than that. It's a faux sophistication. We liked dives, sure, but we could also appreciate Eddy Guerrero and Dean Malenko's choreographed mat sequence. Wrestling, you see, wasn't about steroids and promos. It was about MOVES~! We were the Workrate Cru. Lurk and Learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 From the classic RSPW FAQ Damn it's been 15 years.....memories 1.29 The Workrate Cru A group of posters who gathered together in 1999 because they were tired of being called "workrate freaks" due to their dislike of wrestling's new Sports Entertainment direction. Founders: Jonathan Snowden and Anthony Gancarski. RSPW Highlights: - Gancarkski peevs off RSPW when he criticises their grief for the recently-departed Owen Hart in May 1999. - Know to "close" threads not related to wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Just wanted to say thanks for all the responses. I wrote up the article tonight and it came off pretty well. Not much quoting, but this discussion helped provide the basic framework I was looking for in writing the article, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 It should also be noted that there was a debate between Jack Brisco and Dave Meltzer at Wrestling Classics years ago over the term. Jack Brisco said the term did not exist in wrestling when he was active and Dave said that was absolutely not true because he learned it from people within wrestling. So there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 You going to post the article Bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 It'll come out in the next issue of The Tag Rope, hopefully. Unless it doesn't pass the editorial process, then I'll definitely post it here. Sadly, after all the deep thoughts in this thread, my article will probably be a bit of a letdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Bill, check this out. http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=9;t=049559 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 People who claim workrate isn't a commonly used wrestling term within the business are so far out of touch with the business. It signifies how much effort a participant is putting into their match. It doesn't signify high spots, or signify not using rest holds, but having to do with lazy guys and hard working guys. It's not a term made up by newsletters, because I learned it from conversations with wrestlers going back 20 years ago. In the 80s, it was a term that the stallers used to laugh at because their idea of wrestling was making fans react while doing as little as possible. It was a term the harder working wrestlers used to differentiate themselves, at least as I first learned it. When the former style, for better or worse, went out of vogue as younger wrestlers came in with the idea of working hard as opposed to the old fashioned cutting corners or shortcuts, the term became more popular, and it is commonly used among pretty much everyone in wrestling today. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Thanks Charles, will definitely give that a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 People who claim workrate isn't a commonly used wrestling term within the business are so far out of touch with the business. It signifies how much effort a participant is putting into their match. It doesn't signify high spots, or signify not using rest holds, but having to do with lazy guys and hard working guys. It's not a term made up by newsletters, because I learned it from conversations with wrestlers going back 20 years ago. In the 80s, it was a term that the stallers used to laugh at because their idea of wrestling was making fans react while doing as little as possible. It was a term the harder working wrestlers used to differentiate themselves, at least as I first learned it. When the former style, for better or worse, went out of vogue as younger wrestlers came in with the idea of working hard as opposed to the old fashioned cutting corners or shortcuts, the term became more popular, and it is commonly used among pretty much everyone in wrestling today. Dave That's very interesting, may even cause me to change some aspects of my article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Boy that thread has some all-stars Jose Hisa Meltz Brisco Crimson Mask (who was all up in Jack's ass and being a douchebag) Nulty Yohe And that piece of human garbage Tony Smith aka Tony Nelson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Boy that thread has some all-stars Crimson Mask (who was all up in Jack's ass and being a douchebag) Surely not??? One of the main reasons I don't bother with that place is that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'd probably rather watch the whole HUSTLE history with subtitles if I could now. You know, if we could crowdfund this, we could make this whole thing worth it somehow. Apparently a number of the shows exist, unreleased, with English commentary by Bas Rutten and Mauro Ranallo. So, back to the subtitles... I would seriously chip in money to this. I mean, not a ton of money, but money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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