Grimmas Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Discuss here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I used to love this guy, but I'm starting to think he was overrated. He's been in some great matches, but he also seems just a step above a lot of the sloppy indy guys of the time week-to-week. I don't think he adapted as well to WCW as Rey or even Psicosis, who showed a grasp of American-style psychology here and there. He won't make my top 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I don't have a very clear mental image of AAA Juvi. Big fan of him as a stateside heel, though. His abusive relationship with Eddy was awesome and I wish it could have gone on longer. The four-way from Souled Out 1999 is one of my favorite WCW cruiserweight matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Juventud ruled it for a few years, before he was unmasked and drugs slowed him down. Any chance for him on this list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 25 years ago, hardcore wrestling fans pointed to Juventud as a future best in the world candidate. Some even thought he was a better all around prospect than Rey Jr. I've always enjoyed the matches with Rey Jr when I've revisited them to one degree or another. He's been active the entire time and is only 48 years old. Is there anything worth looking at from the last 20 years or did it all just completely fall apart with WCW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimCooke Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 It more or less fell apart after WCW. It's not all fair since he was given such a high prospect status from the time he debuted but he never reached the heights that guys with his talent should. He was very good early in his career, reached free agency, signed a big deal, and played 6-7 years of average play as an every day center fielder for a mid level MLB team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr JMML Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, TimCooke said: It more or less fell apart after WCW. It's not all fair since he was given such a high prospect status from the time he debuted but he never reached the heights that guys with his talent should. He was very good early in his career, reached free agency, signed a big deal, and played 6-7 years of average play as an every day center fielder for a mid level MLB team. I really like his matches against Rey Mysterio Jr, I'm a baseball fan but I have never heard of his MLB run, I want to see it, I haven't found any footage or information about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 I quite enjoyed Juvie's CMLL run, especially when he was involved with La Familia de Tijuana. I didn't watch his NWA-TNA stuff, but my overall impression was that his early 00s stuff was similar to Psicosis in that he was still a solid worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concrete1992 Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Starting to put together some thoughts on wrestlers based on the RMT / YouTube roulette and Juvie does not stand up well. Not the flashiest guy or biggest bumper. I'm not sure he's as good as Vampiro and I think that says it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, concrete1992 said: Starting to put together some thoughts on wrestlers based on the RMT / YouTube roulette and Juvie does not stand up well. Not the flashiest guy or biggest bumper. I'm not sure he's as good as Vampiro and I think that says it all Goddamn that's rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cad Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 The fuckin' Juice, man. I don't have a lot of use for Juvi in AAA. I've never bought that he was the best worker in the States in 1998. I'm not a believer in Guerrera vs Kidman as a classic series of matches. I've never seen his NOAH run. But you have to be a damn sorry worker to be worse than Vampiro, and I don't think Juvi has anything to worry about there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyvang Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 I really enjoyed his 11/1/03 match from NOAH teaming with Ricky Marvin against KENTA and Marafuji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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