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Is Daniel Bryan Nearing The End Of The Road?


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#1 Fantastic

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Posted 15 April 2015 - 12:32 PM

From WWE via PWInsider

 

"Daniel Bryan has been pulled from the remainder of the UK tour as a precautionary measure."

 

Not looking good. More surgery on the horizon? Even if he buys some time in his wrestling career via surgery, it seems like WWE may not be keen on running with him in any prominent position from here on out, given their usual perceptions in these scenarios that a performer is "fragile".

 

I have to say that Bryan Danielson's luck after working his ass off to get to the top has been awful.

 

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#2 Timbo Slice

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Posted 15 April 2015 - 12:46 PM

They already said he was going to be on SmackDown! almost exclusively because of him breaking down.

 

He might be one of those cases where the injuries that have built up over the years just cascade quickly. The alternative process to his neck issue was a mistake. He hasn't tried to work a different style, really. I don't think he's done, but at this point, I can only see him breaking down, getting surgery for whatever, taking his time on the shelf, and then coming back as a special attraction-type guy.



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 12:54 PM

looking forward to hearing more from all the armchair doctors out there about this

 

for all we know he could be dealing with a totally unrelated injury.  Maybe people should wait for the facts before they talk about how his medical choices were a "mistake".



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 01:16 PM

This helps their case of not wanting to push him as the main guy



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 01:21 PM

Does Bryan have enough cred built up to be a part-timer? Wrestle on the big shows and participate in a couple of angles on Raw throughout the year?

 

(Or maybe be brought in once per year to tease and torture WWE fans who always want Bryan to win the Royal Rumble.)



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 01:34 PM

looking forward to hearing more from all the armchair doctors out there about this
 
for all we know he could be dealing with a totally unrelated injury.  Maybe people should wait for the facts before they talk about how his medical choices were a "mistake".


Agreed

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Posted 15 April 2015 - 01:41 PM

There was a large "he should just retire!" crowd on the initial injury so I expect even more of it this time around. As a notoriously fickle person even I don't understand the extreme shifts from "he should win the Rumble and main event WrestleMania!" to "he should retire because he's injured!"



#8 Timbo Slice

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Posted 15 April 2015 - 02:16 PM

As someone watching Masahiro Tanaka currently trying to be the outlier for Tommy John surgery when his stuff has diminished while everyone and their brothers are getting the procedure done after tearing his UCL, I'm just a bit off about a guy who decided not to get a procedure done in favor of alternative processes that delay the inevitable because he wanted to get back in the ring quicker. Lost in all this seems to be the fact that there were plenty of questions about whether or not he was even ready to come back when he did. 

 

The issues that came up with his neck were all pointing towards getting the invasive surgery and being out for a year. But this talk about taking off the rest of the tour for precautionary reasons is most likely a cascade from that decision not to get surgery done (unless KrisZ's conspiracy theory is founded, in which case, WWE is just straight up stupid). If that's the case and his body's even more worse for wear than it was when the diagnosis was first done, that's a mistake. There's a calculated risk in making the decision and he's been a guy who's been open to trying a lot of different health options over the years, but this looks like it was a mistake.



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 02:30 PM

This might be the reason why he is happy with putting people over now and not getting pushed to the top. He arguably reached the highest possible point in his career last year. I also think he knows he might not have much longer as an active wrestler and since he is kinda old school he wants to put over as many guys as possible. Until injuries force him to retire. Which might be this year, might be 5, might be 10. We will see.



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 07:55 PM

He's dealing with nerve issues which sound to be more severe than others who have had disk issues. It only makes sense for WWE to hold back on him since his return, and it looks like they were right.

The thing I don't get is why he didn't modify his style at all. Hopefully he gets healed up and keeps wrestling as he is, hands down, the best wrestler of the past 15 years.

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Posted 15 April 2015 - 08:15 PM

If it IS the nerve issue then there really isn't anything WWE could or should have done differently. I know in the rush to somehow bash WWE for this a lot of people are saying they rushed his return, but Bryan himself said that when he went to WWE and said he was ready to come back they put him through a whole litany of tests before clearing him.

 

We don't know what's causing the nerve problem so you can't just assume "oh well he should have had the spinal fusion like Austin/Edge" because there's no telling. Carson Palmer spent a large portion of large season lingering between "he could play next week if the nerve wakes up/he might never play again because we don't know if the nerve will wake up" and I guarantee he had better medical attention and saw more doctors than Daniel Bryan.



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 08:16 PM

The issues that came up with his neck were all pointing towards getting the invasive surgery and being out for a year. But this talk about taking off the rest of the tour for precautionary reasons is most likely a cascade from that decision not to get surgery done (unless KrisZ's conspiracy theory is founded, in which case, WWE is just straight up stupid). If that's the case and his body's even more worse for wear than it was when the diagnosis was first done, that's a mistake. There's a calculated risk in making the decision and he's been a guy who's been open to trying a lot of different health options over the years, but this looks like it was a mistake.

 

Bryan worked almost a year with a bulging disc in his neck. The mistakes came a lot earlier than last summer.



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 08:51 PM

If (and I do mean if) all of this talk is founded in reality and Bryan is on the way out, we at the very least got to see him get his moment in the sun at WM last year.  I doubt there's a more deserving guy on the roster and I imagine he will put as many guys over as he can on the way out.  Not that it will matter once they get re-buried in their subsequent feuds to keep the parity.



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 10:26 PM

When he was on the indies, the best things in his act were his heel work, his matwork/MMA influence, selling, and getting small packages and abdominal stretches over. He had some very stiff matches in those years, but his best stuff was rooted in character. He had the intelligence and athletic prowess to understand what was getting over. If anything he was a model for how to work a safe, long-term style.



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Posted 15 April 2015 - 10:44 PM

When he was on the indies, the best things in his act were his heel work, his matwork/MMA influence, selling, and getting small packages and abdominal stretches over. He had some very stiff matches in those years, but his best stuff was rooted in character. He had the intelligence and athletic prowess to understand what was getting over. If anything he was a model for how to work a safe, long-term style.

Yeah, but he also got hurt a lot and worked injured for years in the Indies despite that.

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Posted 15 April 2015 - 10:48 PM

I don't know if I really buy that he worked safer in the indies just because he didn't necessarily do a dive or a diving headbutt in all of them. Some of the stuff with headbutts that he and Nigel did were REALLY stupid. I am pretty sure he said he lost count of how many concussions he had on the indies.

 

I also seem to remember there being talk way before he even signed with WWE about him being beat up and wanting to stop wrestling and do Greenpeace while he was still healthy.



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Posted 16 April 2015 - 09:51 PM

Daniel Bryan reported to have suffered a concussion before WWE's European tour

 

All I can say, this is a very bad time to look like you mishandled a concussion with the lawsuits WWE is involved in.



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Posted 16 April 2015 - 11:54 PM

Wow, if he's having troubles after a concussion then I think it's even worse than if this was arm strength related. The way he told the story on his interview with Jericho, it seemed that Muscle Activation Therapy wasn't a one-and-done type of deal so it wouldn't shock me if he needs to go back and get some treatment done again.

 

Being sent back home a week after a concussion sounds more scary.

 

It does make more sense considering Meltzer said the match with Sheamus on SD! was probably the cause of DB's problems and that Fella reportedly got in trouble after that match.



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Posted 17 April 2015 - 12:08 AM

I'm actually slightly relieved that it was a concussion and not anything directly related to his neck. Though Bryan does have a long history of concussions so this unfortunately could still yield the same result of retirement.



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Posted 17 April 2015 - 08:51 AM

concussions are probably worse in the long run, honestly. especially with his history of them...

 

we should be hoping he doesn't end up like those NFL players who intentionally shoot themselves in the heart so people can study their brains






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