Fantastic Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Fuck it! It may happen, it may not. But if it does, how will they characterise Cena so the majority of the audience that are booing how now don't start cheering him? How would you change the character that Cena plays to reflect his new "evil" alignment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lust Hogan Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Since he's always portrayed as a winner I would make him obsessed with winning. Not in a cartoony, over the top way but rather more subtle. I thought him losing to The Rock the first time after talking so much trash would have been a good opening. You could double turn him and Rusev, although the angle needs to be bigger. Maybe him vs Taker in Taker's retirement match in Dallas if that happened? Brock legit pinned Taker. Cena cheating and then saying he "retired" Taker would be a good start. Cena should maybe be on a losing streak or somewhat desperate heading into the match so he would feel like he "needed" to win and would stress this in promos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCrypt Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 The easiest way to ensure the current boo boys don't start cheering him is by emphasizing the things they hate about him in the first place. For example, the corny promos, the notion of "Super Cena" who no sells the other wrestler's offence etc. You really wouldn't have to change a whole lot about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Yeah, basically he could just be the same Cena he is now, just no pandering to the women and kids. Align with the Authority and start sucking up to them. Retiring Taker is a good idea too. Or my go to idea for a radioactive heel turn: fake his death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiva Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If he was ever going to turn, he should have broken the streak by cheating. The time is probably gone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lust Hogan Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If Daniel Bryan can't wrestle again a career ending injury angle could get some strong heat. The best way to make Cena heel is to turn him into a modern day Mr. Wrestling II / Jumbo Tsuruta grumpy veteran not ready to give up his spot. He lost to Kevin Owens so there is an opening.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Everything I'm coming up with would end up winning most disgusting promotional tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexstar Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I bet a Dr. of Thuganomics who does nothing but G-Rated raps would get boo'd by everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastic Posted June 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 What if they run the sellout thing? Similar to "Hollywood Rock" in 2003? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russellmania Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 What if they run the sellout thing? Similar to "Hollywood Rock" in 2003? I think a Cena turn could work if they took a similar approach to the Bret Hart turn in 1997. Have Cena become entitled and self-righteous and start running down the fans who boo him. I mean that's something he's always taken the high road on...no matter how much he has been booed he has never lashed out at that portion of the audience. I think if he finally did then that would start to turn the other portion of the audience. I think the more fun short-term idea would be a shocking betrayal type of turn, but the more effective long-term idea would be the slow burn heel turn ala Bret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 "I've been listening to you losers boo me for about a decade now. You boo me because I'm rich and you're not. I've made a success of my life, my face is on every magazine, every show poster, every DVD and every ad break. That's because I'm John Cena, and you're nothing but a loser. Oh boo hoo, Daniel Bryan this, Cesaro that. Let me give you a dose of reality, losers, you can go on your internet boards and your Twitter feeds and talk about how the company is screwing this guy or screwing that guy. Did you ever stop and think about why Vince McMahon, the most successful wrestling promoter in history, kept those little guys down and stuck with the most dominant champion this company has seen since Bruno Sammatino? It's because he knows what sells tickets. It's because he knows that my face, my muscles, my matches make money. You can bitch and cry all you want, losers, it's because, simply put, I'm better than Daniel Bryan. I'm better than CM Punk. I'm better than any of these jack off indie flavour of the month Ring of Honour no hope wannabes, and do you know why? Because I define SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT. And there comes a point where a man has to say, "enough is enough". I'm not taking this crap from you LOSERS any more. Do you know how much money I made last year? It's more than most of you jealous little nerds will make in an entire lifetime. I'm better than you. All of you. And I've suffered in silence all this time, but no more! You clowns no longer dictate the way I'm received. Boo all you want, because ... You see, I'm Mr. WWE. I'm Mr. sports Entertianment. I can get any amount of tickets in any arena I want. *Camera pans to a whole section of the arena that is currently empty, 100s of fans, school girls, women, kids, start filing in* See, I can bring my people. Go on now, start chanting kids. * The fake crowd starts chanting "let's go Cena lets go! Let's go Cena lets go!" Yeah, I love this. That's what you morons should have been doing all these years. Okay, okay, now let's try this. "Cena! cena! cena!" Come on, CENA! CENA! * the fake crowd start chanting with him, as they do so he starts cupping his ear to them like Hogan* Allow me just to bask in the glory of this moment. It's a moment that not a single one of you losers who have ever booed me will ever experience. It's a moment that very few of those losers sitting in that locker room will ever experience. Because none of them, not one of them, are John Cena. They say everyone should have a dream. I'm telling you shouldn't even dream of being me, because you have ... No chance! *Vince's music hits. "No chance, that's what you got!" Vince comes to the ring and raises Cena's arm as the show finishes.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Everything I'm coming up with would end up winning most disgusting promotional tactic. If you can beat LU's "person being fed alive to a cage monster", I want to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Skinner Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I like the idea of Cena becoming extremely obsessed with keeping the U.S title. It wouldn't be an immediate thing, I would like him to slow burn it. Have him act increasingly heelish throughout his U.S open challenge matches and his pre-match promos just become condescending towards the talent. He always makes it clear that he's the measuring stick of this company. Have a rising fan favorite beat him on one of those RAW episodes and have Cena reluctantly shake his hand after the match, but Cena is very visibly frustrated and upset that he lost this belt he was building and cherished for months. At the next PPV, have the person retain against Cena in the rematch and this is where Cena loses his shit and just attacks this person viciously after the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 He is and has been a heel to a solid part of the core audience. Turning him a this point will turn him babyface to that chunk and heel to the other (kids & co). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawho5 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 So have him wrestle heel when it makes sense and face when it makes sense. Why is that not an option if that's already the reaction he gets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Because when he works heel in the ring he loses. Sorry I'm a little obsessed with my John Cena theory. But seriously he's already a heel to half the audience. Actually acting like a heel half the time goes against his whole character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Cena is the GTOAT. No need to fall into the good, bad, and ugly category. And really the ugly is the only way he would completely get is ass booed outta the building. But they don't book characters like that anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Because when he works heel in the ring he loses. Sorry I'm a little obsessed with my John Cena theory. But seriously he's already a heel to half the audience. Actually acting like a heel half the time goes against his whole character. It's true. John Cena has been the top babyface and the top heel for a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Cheating to beat Kevin Owens: top babyface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tofu_chipmunk Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I have to say that the thread title made me think of John Cena with a Big Bully Busick gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hulk Hogan couldn't have had an effective heel turn in 1993 WWF. It didn't matter that he wasn't the same Hulk Hogan that took over the world in 1984 and that the crowds were nowhere near as into him as they were at the beginning of his run. I think Cena is in the same boat, you can't turn him heel in WWE. He could go somewhere else, to NXT or ROH and be a heel, but not in WWE. Because his heel turn won't generate real heat, it will generate "fuck you, you made my kid cry" heat from parents of kids who are Cena fans and elicit "yes, he finally did it, oh my god I'm so happy!!!" cheers from the audience that is booing him now. You risk alienating and pushing away the fan base you most rely on to buy tickets and merchandise just to appease a bunch of people who are fickle as hell and will now be giving your top heel massive babyface reactions. I don't see the benefit from a business perspective to turn Cena heel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Goc, if he cut the promo I wrote out do you think the crowd would really cheer a guy calling them losers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Am i the only one who sees this thread title and keeps somehow expecting Vaudevillian John Cena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Goc, if he cut the promo I wrote out do you think the crowd would really cheer a guy calling them losers? Yes. It never stopped them from cheering for The Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 So you think they'd de facto cheer any attempt to get him over as a heel? What if he was kicking an injured Daniel Bryan in the head while running him down? What if he did a basketball style skit and made a kid cry? What if he gave Jerry Lawler a pile driver through a table? There's nothing that can be done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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