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#21 Dylan Waco

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 06:25 PM

With Ayala the most famous match is the Inferno Match, which I like a lot, but it's not the first in the series and not my favorite.  

 

I think the first of the matches is the Texas Death Match from 7/87 which is probably my least favorite of their matches, but again I like it a lot.

 

I believe the Barbed Wire match from Anniversario 87 is next which I think his a great match, followed by the aforementioned Inferno Match.  

 

Not sure when the Loser Leaves Town match is.  Maybe 89.  I love that one too.

 

All of them are on YouTube, as is the crazy angle with Colon's wife.  While it's not as good as the Hansen feud (nothing is), it's a pretty amazing feud considering the limitations of Ayala. 



#22 WingedEagle

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 06:54 PM

Sounds good, have all 4 matches saved in hopefully right the order.  Looks like the Texas Death is JIP?



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Posted 27 March 2016 - 07:11 PM

Barely anything at all is missing.  Maybe not even a minute



#24 El Boricua

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 09:56 PM

You guys have the correct order. The Texas Death Match is first, with the story going into it being that Hercules Ayala had been working on a new mysterious move and he ends up unveiling it. It's an inverted figure four (the leg applies the pressure from the bottom instead of the top). The barbed wire match is Aniversario 87, Feud reignites with the attack on Carlos Colon's wife, which leads to the fire match at Aniversario 88. Then the Loser leaves town match is Three Kings Day 1989.

 

I was actually asked about the Slash vs. Banderas match this past week and I'm going to post some of the context of the match. The date is 10-18-2003 and the match took place at Cancha Pepin Cestero in Bayamon. It's basically the IWA's home arena. It's also Ricky Banderas' hometown. The week prior Ricky had been turfed from Savio Vega's La Compañía faction. There had been arguments brewing between Apolo and Ricky since both wanted to be the number one contender to Glamour Boy Shane's IWA World title. After several weeks of arguments and sabotaging each other, Savio had enough of it and called them to the ring saying that there was a rat in his organization. Ricky was the only one of the two to show up and Savio made a show of saying that the rat was Apolo and that he was kicking him out. All of a sudden, they start attacking Ricky and leave him laying. No one made the save since Ricky was a heel (despite the crowd chanting for Shane and Ray Gonzalez to make the save). Ricky was carted of on a stretcher to an ambulance. Later that night, Shane was wrestling Bison Smith and, when the match ended, Savio and company entered the ring to attack Shane. Various tecnicos came to try to help but the heels managed to contain them and continue the attack. After a while, an ambulance showed up in the arena and Ricky Banderas emerged and ran to the ring. He managed to get the better of David Flair, but was overwhelmed by the numbers. Eventually though, he and Victor the Bodyguard (who came in after Ricky to also try to make the save) managed to make a comeback and clear the ring. Ricky then grabbed a mic and told Savio that he had just opened the doors to his world and that he was coming after him. While the crowd cheered for Ricky to join the tecnicos, he left and headed back to the ambulance.

 

Because of this, a match was signed for Ricky to face a mercenary on Savio's behalf. It ended up being Slash Venom, who was part of Savio's faction. At this time, Slash's gimmick was that his matches were under Extreme rules, so those are the rules this match is contested under. At around the 4 minute mark the ring announcer says that the match is anything goes, no DQ. Since Slash actually tries to pin Ricky outside of the ring at one point, I'm guessing that falls also counted anywhere with regards to anything goes.

 

With regards to the end, Slash was legit out cold for like ten minutes. Savio's post-match attack on Ricky ended up busting his nose legitimately with the bat. Here's a video with some of the aftermath shown on TV:

 

 

Slash was taken to a hospital (although he insisted he was fine despite not knowing where he was, he thought he was in Indiana when asked where he was) and Ricky needed stitches to close the wound he got.

 

The following week (10/25) they're back in the Pepin Cestero, Ricky was in the ring when Slash Venom showed up in a wheelchair and with a neckbrace on after the fall from the previous week. He had been shown during that day's TV program in the wheelchair and telling Savio that he was ready to get back into things, with Savio blowing him off and telling him that he'll have to wait. After Slash showed up in the wheelchair, Savio also showed up and proceeded to insult Slash for not getting the job done, slapped him and pushed him to the ground. Ricky goes to protect Slash and wards off Savio. Then, to the absolute shock of everybody, Slash got up as if nothing had happened to him and proceeded to jump Ricky from behind. Slash and Ricky would feud for the next two months and it eventually involved Apolo and Vampiro. Here's a video with some highlights of the feud setting up their tag cage match:

 

 

A few final notes. Slash eventually had to be turned face since crowds found it tough to boo him (after all ,who could boo such a tough son of a gun, there was definitely respect for him after that fall). He would be given the nickname El Hombre de Goma (the rubber man) because of this. The incident is still remembered among local wrestling fans. For the tenth anniversary of the incident, they actually published an interview with him on one of the local newspaper websites talking about the incident and Slash's remembrances of his time here.

 

http://www.primeraho...shvenom-965262/

 

I'll try to post a little more about Ricky and some of the other PR work candidates between today and tomorrow,



#25 El Boricua

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 10:29 PM

Ricky Banderas was someone that took me a while to warm up to. During the first year of the IWA, he was basically the promotion's Rocky Maivia. His nickname at the time was "EL Patriota", which should give you an idea of how they were pushing him as the next great young Puerto Rican tecnico idol. But like Huracan Castillo JR., Miguel Perez Jr. and Ray Gonzales before him, he really started developing a personality when he turned heel. He  was paired with Los Boricuas and the Starr Corporation, which definitely helped his development as heel. And then he started calling himself the messiah of wrestling, which eventually evolved into the more complete dark El Mesias persona. The chair became a part of his arsenal in helping give him a harder edge and he turned around that Rocky Maivia-itis he had going on at the beginning.

 

A random selection of matches.

 

vs. Apolo in 2000 after he betrayed Apolo and joined the Intocables stable:

 

vs. the Kamikaze Clan in 2001:

 

vs. Super crazy in 2001, Crazy is going after Ricky based on orders from Savio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g48ZlCugLCc

 

Billed as the match of the century, in a rainstorm vs. Rey fenix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNG0SFxkr94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O4mbqonHaI

vs. Hannibal in 2005:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTXo_SFYEVk

 

4 way vs. Chicnao, Apolo and Slash for the IWA World title:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuFjzCb-VT8

 

vs. Ray Gonzales in 2005:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zK5ty5_HR8

 

vs. monster Pain in 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbTIkdBVfns

 

And a video highlighting when he returned to aid his "Hermano in Dolor" Shane at the beginning of 2007. You can see how much the El Mesias persona had evolved at that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU6cp7OG6Tg



#26 WingedEagle

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Posted 28 March 2016 - 06:13 AM

Boricua, you are the man.  Thanks for the background info.  First things first -- is the angle with Colon's wife on youtube?  Want to make sure I include that if available.

 

Love hearing about feuds I'm unfamiliar with, but anything around a bump like that is vital information.  Just one of the craziest spots I've ever seen, and all the more impressive because I had zero clue it was coming.  Would you highlight any of the Banderas matches above as standouts or all generally worth checking out?



#27 El Boricua

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Posted 28 March 2016 - 08:12 AM

Yeah, the angle with Colon's wife is on YouTube:

 
There's also one from fall of 87 where Ayala attacked Colon after throwing a net on him:

 
The net angle goes before the barbed wire match, The attack at the awards is before the fire match. One key thing to keep in mind is that Colon vs. Ayala was basically the first time native vs native was the Universal title feud, so it had that traitor aspect to it. Also, keep in mind that Ayala applies his figure four inverted, meaning he places the leg underneath when applying it. It's sold as his new mystery hold and put over as devastating. One final detail about the barbed wire match, it's also figure four vs. figure four, where the only way to win is by applying and making your opponent submit to the figure four.
 
As for the bump in the Slash vs. Banderas match, I had three reactions when I first saw it when it aired during the weekend TV. First was absolute shock that it happened (I'm talking mouth open, staring at the TV shock). Then, worry if the guy was okay. You could tell that he was supposed to land on the table but completely missed it, plus he landed right on his head. The article I linked to is in Spanish, but Slash mentions how fortunate he was that he didn't suffer a really bad injury (or worse). His specific comment was:
 
"I thought I had landed on the table. I did not know I was knocked out. When I went to the locker room I told Savio, 'See what an SOB I am', and he told me to get ready to go to the hospital. I told him no, that I was fine. He then asked me if I knew where I was and I answered him in Indiana, so I think I was not all that well. If you look at the video you'll notice that I hit the ground with my head. I was a lucky kid that night. I could have died or  have been paralyzed. I do not recommend to anyone doing that again."
 
My third reaction, after the show ended, was turning to my brother and saying that there was no way anyone was going to boo him after that. Once they finished the Banderas feud they had to turn him because the crowd developed a respect for Slash after that bump and it was hard to boo him.
 
I'd say check all of the Banderas matches if you want, it's more a random grab bag of what's on YouTube from his IWA years as to give an idea of how he was around that time. It's a shame there's not a lot more  Puerto Rico stuff out there in circulation to really make recommendations, so it's basically find what's accessible. There's also his work in Mexico, along with some random matches from ECW, TNA and XSW out there.

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Posted 28 March 2016 - 09:10 AM

Awesome, many thanks.  Slotted these angles in on the playlist and hopefully get to it ASAP.  Will also have to check out much of the Banderas stuff.



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Posted 01 April 2016 - 12:39 AM

As for not-Puerto Rico, and Lucha Underground, I highly suggest at the very least the Fenix feud; which is notably Grave Consequences, the Muertes return match w/ weapons, and the awesome title match in season 2. The Ivellise match is a YMMV highlight as well, since it's the best intergender stuff in Lucha Underground. Can't forget about the triple threat with Pentagon Jr. and Prince Puma as well! As well as the Ultima Lucha title match with Prince Puma. In order:

 

Grave Consequences 

 

Muertes vs. Fenix No DQ

 

Muertes vs. Puma

 

Muertes vs. Ivellise

 

Muertes vs. Pentagon vs. Puma

 

Muertes vs. Fenix, season 2

 

Coupled with some vignettes can't hurt.



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Posted 02 August 2017 - 08:31 AM

As someone who loves his work in Lucha Underground and thought his aspuestas match with Park was an absolute hoot, someone I would love to see more of. His stuff in AAA right now is bad but I put that more on AAA booking all of their matches as garbage brawls.. I would say his stuff as Mil Muertes is a much better indicator of where he is as a wrestler, and that's pretty damn good. And the way he portrays his character while working those matches is fantastic. I recall reading in a best of 2016 list that when you see Banderas in Lucha Underground, you're not seeing a guy playing the character of Mil Muertes. You're watching Mil Muertes, a vengeful, juggernaut of death.






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