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#21 Ship Canal

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 08:36 PM

And I feel kinda weird about including Martin Shkreli in with these other harmless examples. Everyone else listed here is just being mischievous about stuff which doesn't really matter. THAT piece of shit is committing massive financial fraud and denying lifesaving drugs to sick people and doing it all with pride. If he was suddenly killed tomorrow in a tragic piano-fell-off-a-roof-and-squashed-him-flat accident, I would legitimately celebrate his demise. Fuck that guy and everything he stands for.

OK then, didn't realize the criteria was that specific. 

I mentioned him because the specific act of smirking his way through that hearing strikes me as just about the most obvious example of needlessly outrageous heeling I could think of off the top of my head. It was in no way meant to belittle the complete shithousery of his actions. If we are only supposed to be including more inoffensive and inane stuff, stuff that is suffused with an astounding lack of self consciousness that is cringesome but not necessarily morally repugnant then my mistake. But I figured a couple of relevant contemporary examples of more genuinely awful stuff to sit alongside less heinous examples might make sense. Real life heeling is a spectrum, after all. So long as the whole thread doesn't just become people tossing out stuff as extreme as Shkreli I figured we'd be fine. I reckon we all have the ability to keep a lid on that but apologies anyway.

And for the record I feel exactly the same way as you do about Shkreli, so no disagreements there.

Anyway, as you were...



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 08:59 PM

Oh yeah, in terms of him being such a morally bankrupt human being who revels so gleefully in the misery of human suffering and treats all the very worst aspects of capitalistic selfishness to be sacred virtues, he's certainly effective as a "heel". Especially since you know he's the kind of chickenshit who would be left laying in a pool of his own blood, if some heroic babyface could manage to lock him in a steel cage away from all the cronies and toadies who protect him from the righteous wrath of society's justice. For the record, nobody laid down any official criteria for what counts and what doesn't.

It's just that at a certain level of real-world damage caused by someone, I think that could disqualify them from being a love-to-hate-them villain. Like, we'd probably all agree that Bin Ladin wouldn't be seriously namedropped as "he was a great monster heel who really knew how to work the marks in his particular territory, and even though he only knew how to do one particular highspot he definitely knew when and where to do it so that it really counted". Even though all that is technically accurate, it not only trivializes the pain and havoc that person caused, it also kinda trivializes wrestling terminology and comparisons, making them look awfully trite and pointless in the face of real-world evil. And obviously Shkreli is hardly even a carrion worm on Osama's decomposing ass when it comes to being a truly despicable argument for legalizing ninety-seventh-trimester abortions, but I think the conversation just probably stays more fun if we try to keep it on lighter subjects like Donkey Kong.

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 07:09 PM

Re-watched King of Kong for the first time in years earlier on because of this thread.

Billy Mitchell really does tick off every aspect of being a great heel in that film.

- Delusional levels of arrogance
- Harrassment and bullying
- Aiming for complete humiliation of his opponent
- Dirty tactics
- Insane hypocrisy
- Outright cheating
- Blatant cowardice
- Scheming
- Supported by corrupt authority figures
- Sore loser but made sure he got his heat back just through general douchery

The two most outrageously heel moves that stood out to me were

1. When he saunters past Wiebe who says "Hey Billy" even in the middle of going for the world record and then Mitchell says to his wife something like "There are certain people I don't want to spend too much time around".

2. Right near the end when his mate is bigging up Wiebe, and then they turned to a seething Mitchell and he just says "I'm not familiar enough with the situation". LOL

All-time great heel.

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 08:00 PM

The actual Martin Shkreli isn't fun, in the sense that he's just that terrible of a person. The celebrity-obsessed living caricature, though? That's a fantastic heel gimmick.

 

All of this King of Kong talk forces me to bring up Troy Duffy as a phenomenal heel protagonist in a documentary (Overnight).

 

Political figures are too easy and also un-PWO generally, but Robert Moses was simply on another level. His true greatest crime isn't running the Brooklyn Dodgers out of town, it's creating a cottage industry of endless nostalgia and whining (whining tinged by classism and racism at that) over the Dodgers having been run out of town for 60 years now!



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Posted 20 March 2016 - 08:30 PM

Probably shouldn't extend this to fictional characters, but Joffrey out of Game of Thrones probably deserves a special mention for being an all-time-massive cunt.

I don't use that word very often, but Joffrey is just such a hatable lamentable prick during his entire run on that show.

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 10:37 PM

Troy Duffy as a phenomenal heel protagonist in a documentary (Overnight).

GREAT call. Whatta fuckin' douchebag. I particularly loved that one part where some poor casting director is suggesting various trendy-but-talented actors to star in the upcoming Boondock Saints, and Duffy keeps arrogantly burying every single person she names in an awesomely condescending fashion, like some Youtube commenter who insists that everyone sucks and nothing is ever any good.

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:11 PM

I refuse to accept that Ian McShane is a heel. He's Lovejoy!



#28 Jimmy Redman

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:17 PM

Probably shouldn't extend this to fictional characters, but Joffrey out of Game of Thrones probably deserves a special mention for being an all-time-massive cunt.

I don't use that word very often, but Joffrey is just such a hatable lamentable prick during his entire run on that show.

 

When I used to talk about GOT episodes I basically recapped everything in wrestling language. So many great heels, heel and face turns, SWERVES, matches, jobbers getting squashed, the works.



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:30 PM

Probably shouldn't extend this to fictional characters, but Joffrey out of Game of Thrones probably deserves a special mention for being an all-time-massive cunt.

I don't use that word very often, but Joffrey is just such a hatable lamentable prick during his entire run on that show.

 
When I used to talk about GOT episodes I basically recapped everything in wrestling language. So many great heels, heel and face turns, SWERVES, matches, jobbers getting squashed, the works.


Same. Constant face and heel turns in that show.

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:33 PM

I refuse to accept that Ian McShane is a heel. He's Lovejoy!

 

If anything, the ongoing Lovejoy/Charlie Gimbert feud kept Sunday night BBC in business for years



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:36 AM

The actual Martin Shkreli isn't fun, in the sense that he's just that terrible of a person. The celebrity-obsessed living caricature, though? That's a fantastic heel gimmick.
 
All of this King of Kong talk forces me to bring up Troy Duffy as a phenomenal heel protagonist in a documentary (Overnight).
 
Political figures are too easy and also un-PWO generally, but Robert Moses was simply on another level. His true greatest crime isn't running the Brooklyn Dodgers out of town, it's creating a cottage industry of endless nostalgia and whining (whining tinged by classism and racism at that) over the Dodgers having been run out of town for 60 years now!


Walter O'Malley is more the true "Higher Power" heel in the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 08:20 AM

I always say Earl Strickland is the best sports heel, but no-one seems to know who he is.



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 11:43 AM

Earl the Pearl is such a cunt. Hate him on the Mosconi Cup.

 

Who's that 10-Pin Bowling chap? He seemed like a mega heel in a documentary about the game I watched. He does DX crotch chops and RVD poses.



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 11:53 AM

Earl the Pearl is such a cunt. Hate him on the Mosconi Cup.

 

Who's that 10-Pin Bowling chap? He seemed like a mega heel in a documentary about the game I watched. He does DX crotch chops and RVD poses.

That would be Pete Weber.  I don't know if he's a heel or if I just love needlessly flamboyant athletes, but I like how this dude gets down.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:04 PM

 

Fantastic

 

Another wonderful sporting heel is Darts player Ted "The Count" Hankey. As well as being known as "B.O. Baracus" amongst the local darts leagues, he's also known for his outbursts, punching the board and bollocking the crowd during his appearances at major televised championships.

 

 

To be honest, the darts is full of awesome heels. Darts in the modern era is the wrestling that wrestling wishes it could be.



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:21 PM

Speaking of baseball, Reggie Jackson, Pete Rose and Roger Clemens have to rank up there.

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 06:35 PM

 

I refuse to accept that Ian McShane is a heel. He's Lovejoy!

 

If anything, the ongoing Lovejoy/Charlie Gimbert feud kept Sunday night BBC in business for years

 


NotJayTabb, I think I love you.



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Posted 25 March 2016 - 06:37 PM

ButchReedMark:

Ted Hankey's incredible entrance tops all darts things. 

https://youtu.be/hbDTqCOVA1I 

Also, nowhere near the glorious OTT vulgarity of a Billy Mitchell in terms of character or motivation, and more likely just a dunderheaded, overly passionate hatchet man who has managed to craft a unique gimmick in a sport sadly bereft of them. Seems to me this guy knows how to generate some good heel heat, if only from opposition supporters:
 

http://www.theguardi...l_b-gdnfootball
 

"Gerardo Bedoya, widely regarded as the world’s dirtiest footballer, needed just 21 minutes of his senior coaching debut to continue his remarkable run of red cards in his native Colombia.
 

Appearing in the dugout for the first time for Independiente Santa Fe as part of the new manager Alexis García’s coaching staff, Bedoya, who received a record 46 red cards during his playing career, was sent to the stands during his side’s fixture with Junior FC.

After Santa Fe had taken an early lead it was Vladimir Hernández’s equaliser that sent Bedoya over the edge. The 40-year-old, who won 49 caps for Colombia as a defensive midfielder, proceeded to berate the referee and his assistant for a full 10 minutes before he was sent to the stands."
 

EDIT: I have no idea how to make youtube videos show up as embedded in posts yet, sorry.



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Posted 25 March 2016 - 10:07 PM

Ayrton Senna did some pretty cold things that could be considered heelish, like driving a guy and himself right off the track at the start of the race to regain his championship. Though he also was quite unselfish in some regards too (like putting his own life on the line to save another driver from certain death).



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Posted 26 March 2016 - 04:51 AM

Prost was the heel vs Senna I'd say. The cold calculating man against the passionate and emotional risktaker






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