Wrestling With The Past: Greatest Wrestler Ever with Charles & Childs!
Posted 11 April 2016 - 11:20 AM
Thanks for that explanation.
Which came first -- Dave getting back to covering it more, or hardcore fan types showing interest in it and really liking it?
From someone looking from the outside (of puro fandom) I think it was Dave's coverage that lead to people beyond hardcore puro/NJ fans getting into it. Not in the sense of people being sheep and rating things because he does (although that too) but simply because Dave's coverage just lead to greater awareness of what was going on and pushing the idea that it's something people should watch.
Posted 11 April 2016 - 03:23 PM
I'm only about half an hour in, but this is already everything I hoped it would be.
Loss not ranking Childs' #98 at all was surprising to me, though. I should've voted him top 30 to make up for such deplorable behaviour.
Posted 11 April 2016 - 05:00 PM
Posted 11 April 2016 - 05:11 PM
Charles is a true friend, and as my friend, my only feelings towards him are those of gladness that he will be able to experience the joy of the matches in question for the first time.
That is all.
Posted 11 April 2016 - 05:16 PM
I love this pairing and wish it was 10 hours longer, only half kidding. Charles is so convincing in his opinions that he could and might diss Bret and I'd thank him for it instead of getting mad
Haha, well thank you, that's very good to know, although I think you'll find some high praise of Bret Hart coming from me, not just when talking about him but talking about how other guys have worked with him.
Posted 11 April 2016 - 05:20 PM
Posted 11 April 2016 - 05:26 PM
One thing that has slightly surprised me so far is how different Charles's list is from Chad's. I always think of those two aligning a lot, but their lists are pretty different so far.
Posted 11 April 2016 - 05:31 PM
My list is something I'm not overly proud of, to be honest. I took a lot of time on it, but made so many mistakes and do have regrets. Chad's is probably more me than me, at least in some ways. Still, though, the list is like 5% of this project's appeal to be, maybe less.
Posted 12 April 2016 - 01:16 AM
Was pleasantly surprised by many rankings, confused by others, but loved listening to the discussion all the same. I thought the Bryan talk was excellent, was really happy Childs repped Puerto Rico, and thought the discussions on the four pillars ruled even when I didn't entirely agree.
Posted 12 April 2016 - 02:07 AM
I feel like this show should have been posted in one massive podcast just to throw the gauntlet down to the Zellners and Lapsed Fans of the world that a new bar has been set in the great wrestling podcast length wars.
Posted 12 April 2016 - 09:54 AM
This was a marathon to plow through but honestly one of my favorite podcasts of all time. Both Loss and Childs have an uncanny ability at times to make these snapshot statements that totally encompass how I feel on certain things in one moment. One of those was the desire of Kobashi to have a classic every time out. The other involved Ricky Morton being a heart throb based on his selling. Just a magnificent discussion that it felt like we were all allowed to secretly eavesdrop in on.
Posted 12 April 2016 - 12:11 PM
I listened to almost the full 9 hours yesterday (at the office, driving while commuting, exercising and during my wrestling viewing) and fell asleep somewhere in the top ten.
I popped for the song every time, even if Charles does not seem to be in charge of his own list at certain points. For what it's worth, I truly relate to that struggle. My list was guided by seemingly unnatural forces and I share a similar disdain for the end result.
In the end, we're not going to agree with anyone's list, least of all one of our own faulty creation.
Posted 12 April 2016 - 04:21 PM
Thanks. That struggle was maybe the biggest reason I didn't want to submit a ballot for so long. I knew it only be good for a few minutes, then I'd want to re-do it. At a certain point, I just had to stop.
Posted 13 April 2016 - 04:00 AM
I'm not sure how you did it, I'm usually spent at the three hour mark, can probably stretch to four, but I did not detect any obvious drop in energy or seriousness into the eighth straight hour!
Posted 13 April 2016 - 07:48 AM
Crossed the halfway point here. I've run a few marathons, more than few halfs and this still felt grueling. I hope someone was feeding you gents Gatorade and goos along the way. Not that its any surprise, but it really stands out how much thought went into both of your lists. A few names I might need to request some recs for as I haven't really seen much, if any, of them. But will check out their GWE threads first to see if anything doing there.
Loss, curious what placed Tully so much higher than Arn on your ballot. From podcasts and the board my read is that most have had Arn higher so wanted to see what stood out for Tully in your eyes. Pre-Horsemen? Higher end singles?
Posted 13 April 2016 - 08:11 AM
I think Tully was a better singles wrestler. He had a shorter run, but peaked higher within it. He was more of a catalyst, and a less respectable heel.
And Parv, I was totally kayfabing that one. I looked at the clock when we had about 30 to go, muted myself and sighed really loud.
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