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#41 Parties

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 04:55 PM

Re: Childs' question about how the 90s fit into a Funk vote for #1: I can say that it helped his case for me. He has some great showings in USWA, Dustin-Stud Stable, SMW, and even ECW/WWF/WCW. But perhaps even more importantly than his 90s matches was his incredible capacity to stay relevant and stay really over in an array of environments. Working with guys like DX, Foley, the Gangstas, Dustin, Sabu, Bret, even Raven: you see him in there a lot of different major young players of the 90s, and it does a lot to preserve his own youthful spirit. I don't say this to deal in hypotheticals, but if we'd gotten the AAA run that ended up going to Jake Roberts (Konnan claims to have pitched Funk, but says Pena had never heard of him), he would be even more versatile in the 90s. If he'd just become Kevin Sullivan or Abdullah around 1990, working local indies and becoming a nostalgia act, he would still have a #1 case in the ballpark of Hansen and Flair. The 90s (and even his sporadic moments of genius on the indies in the 2000s with Lawler) put him over the top.



#42 MikeF

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 05:02 PM

I voted Flair #1 and Funk #2. Would be fine with the order being flipped though. Both deserve the top spot, imo.

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 07:19 PM

See this?

 

June 6, 1999.  Terry Funk vs. Sabu, in one of the scuzziest strip joints you're ever likely to see.  In front of 300 people at most.  The same summer he fought Abdullah The Butch at an Applebee's in Toronto, which I had to miss, sadly.  But this was one of the happiest days of my life, because I got to see Terry Funk wrestle live, and shake his hand.  (And I also got to flee in terror when Sabu flew into my row and would have landed on me had I not hauled ass.)

 

I love Terry Funk because as somebody else said, he is everything right about Pro Wrestling.  He was my #2 vote (behind Misawa) and that took a lot of soul searching, for a long time he was #1.  I've never seen a Terry Funk show or match when I came away feeling bad about it, because he was always so much damn fun.



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Posted 29 April 2016 - 07:46 PM

Diamonds are forever and so is Ric Flair

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Posted 29 April 2016 - 09:31 PM

I had Funk #1 and Flair #2.

As for the 90s, here is my arguement for Funk for that decade.

    I felt like Funk spent the decade giving back to the business, creating new stars, while Flair spent the decade trying to hold onto the success he had achieved. Both were successful in doing so.  But if you look at what Funk achieved in the 90s. How many young guys had the best feud/match of their young careers against Funk in the 90s? A lot of those guys went on to have successful careers thanks to Funk.  Funk practically made every single guy in ECW. All of them all a large part of their success to working with Funk. I'll try and list everybody whose career was directly benefited from working with Funk in the 90s- Foley, Dustin Rhodes, Masato Tanaka, Hayabusa, Onita, Raven, Shane Douglas, Sabu, Billy Gunn, Road Dogg,  Sandman, Tommy Dreamer,  Stevie Richards. That is a lot of very good careers launched or benefited in some way thanks to one guy. 

      What Funk did as a draw in Japan, drawing 40,000 vs Onita, then 35,000 the next year in the Deathmatch Tournament, and 33,000 the next year against Hayabusa and Tanaka rivals what Flair drew while he was the touring champion in the 80s.  Flair wasn't selling out baseball stadiums in the 90s but Funk was, and he was doing it in fringe outlaw promotions while making guys like Foley a draw for the next decade. What was Flair drawing in the 90s? Nothing much. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the reason the main event for WM8 changed because nobody was showing up to see Flair at the house shows? Also look at the guys in the 90s whose careers were hurt by working with Flair. First that comes to mind would be Scott Steiner and that match you could say Flair intentionally made sure was bad enough to ensure Steiner was never a threat for Flair's spot. Then there was Bret Hart who Flair refused to lose to on TV. 



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Posted 30 April 2016 - 12:08 AM

I think these two fellas being the final fray is pretty indicative of what a success this project has been. I think the chasm between Funk & Flair and the rest of the list is quite dramatic. I had Funk first, but am filled with regret with every Flair testimonial I read, and am certain I would feel the same if the roles were reversed.

The two greatest there's ever been, who happened to produce the most important feud in my wrestling fandom. Salud!

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JHHBjr

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Posted 30 April 2016 - 07:47 AM

I also had Funk #1 and Flair #2. Funk got the edge for me because of his versatility and willingness to adapt his style throughout his career. You can also check the box for Funk as being a great tag worker, which we never really saw from Flair.

I can understand how someone could rate Flair higher, but I just enjoy Funk's work more and went with my heart on this one.

#48 TheU_2001

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Posted 08 May 2016 - 02:04 PM

Who will win? Flair.
 
Who I think is better? ...still Flair.


Yep. No question.

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Posted 01 June 2016 - 02:02 PM

I also had Funk #1 and Flair #2. Funk got the edge for me because of his versatility and willingness to adapt his style throughout his career. You can also check the box for Funk as being a great tag worker, which we never really saw from Flair.

I can understand how someone could rate Flair higher, but I just enjoy Funk's work more and went with my heart on this one.

 

Flair worked tags when he came to Crockett from Gagne. Had to be in the house when Flair was working tags in the mid-late 70's. There's footage of Flair working tags but obviously not to the extent of Terry Funk. Those who were there know how great Flair was in a tag-team environment.






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