Cox Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think there's probably just as much insight as there used to be, but there's also a lot more bloat from all the gimmicks and schtick. I like Bruce and think he is a good storyteller but could probably do without Conrad for the most part, even if I do admit that he and Bruce do have good chemistry together. I just don't think Conrad is as informed as he thinks he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I listen to podcasts on iTunes, and regularly skip over anything I find tiresome or annoying, and try to find a point where it gets interesting again. Amazingly not as hard as it sounds. The shtick is what it is, and I don't mind it. I can tell they genuinely like each other and that makes it less grinding for me. If they somehow had to force it on, then I'd probably tune it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbenn123 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 The same people comment each week that they hate the show and it's a hard listen. It's a given at this point.Do you disagree? I love the show. One of my favorite podcasts. I just find it puzzling that the same people bash it every week yet continue to listen. Must love punishment I wish there was simple adware free place where all of the newsworthy/interesting bits from Prichard/Tony/Jericho/Ross/Bischoff/etc.'s podcasts could just posted quickly by someone in quick list form. I don't have hours and hours to listen to this stuff but I'd be curious if we learned something new about a production meeting Bischoff had with Tony about Glacier or something (I don't know). I could absolutely see people try to listen to something like Bruce's show for new information and not necessarily entertainment. Keller is trying this again with pwpodcasts.com. It is relatively ad-free, and I find does a pretty good job of summarizing the major podcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpchicago23 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Side note, anyone else know that Lawler had a podcast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 The same people comment each week that they hate the show and it's a hard listen. It's a given at this point.Do you disagree? I love the show. One of my favorite podcasts. I just find it puzzling that the same people bash it every week yet continue to listen. Must love punishment I wish there was simple adware free place where all of the newsworthy/interesting bits from Prichard/Tony/Jericho/Ross/Bischoff/etc.'s podcasts could just posted quickly by someone in quick list form. I don't have hours and hours to listen to this stuff but I'd be curious if we learned something new about a production meeting Bischoff had with Tony about Glacier or something (I don't know). I could absolutely see people try to listen to something like Bruce's show for new information and not necessarily entertainment. Not an option for everyone, but I'll always listen to podcasts at 2x speed and with a 45 minute drive to work each way every day, and the gym in the morning before that, there's ample time to get through most of what I want even if not in the most timely fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 I mainly listen in the car. I can make it through Between the Sheets, Space City, and whenever Stacey and Elliott post a new pod in a week, basically. And that's on 1.5x speed. I'm full up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 The WWECW episode was a drastic improvement on recent ones. Conrad did his research and Prichard had plenty to say. When it's good, it's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Austin's 2002 departure episode is really good. Honestly, when Conrad's got a big topic, does loads of research and hasn't time for fucking impressions this show still works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpchicago23 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 There was a ton of insight on the Austin 02 episode. You almost feel bad for Austin afterwards as it was obvious that the company was changing its direction and he wasn't ready for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooley Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Bruce has never come off as poorly as he did when discussing the Austin/Hall beer-pouring incident on that episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Yeah, one of the few times I didn't mind Conrad digging his heels in on a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Russo episode is another winner. The more research Conrad does, the less bullshit we get. Keep the topics BIG, people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I've noticed that Conrad started using Figure Four Weekly for his research instead of the Observer. I wonder if either Bruce didn't want to keep plugging the Observer every week, or if Dave asked Conrad to stop using the Observer since Bruce would bury it every week. I mean, both sheets come from the same online archive, so it's not like he switched sources, so something must have happened that caused Conrad to switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Maybe Bruce is getting mad that Dave won't take his obvious troll bait to come on his show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Not the first time and Conrad already said it's because Dave's issues from that time period are not up yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwaukegan Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I've noticed that Conrad started using Figure Four Weekly for his research instead of the Observer. I wonder if either Bruce didn't want to keep plugging the Observer every week, or if Dave asked Conrad to stop using the Observer since Bruce would bury it every week. I mean, both sheets come from the same online archive, so it's not like he switched sources, so something must have happened that caused Conrad to switch. Just throwing it out their but from what I recall Dave started focusing more on MMA such as late 90s and early 2000 and wasn't as focused on the totality of the topics of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I'm listening to the Russo show. Getting major douchechills listening to excerpts from that landmark of written word that is his auto-biography, but hearing Bruce bring it all down to reality is worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Conrad has used Meltzer the past few weeks as a resource, so I was wrong about this. The thing is, I should have known that they didn't have the 2002-onward WON archives on the Observer site because when I was on Between the Sheets, I wanted to read as much as I could about that week beyond what was sent to me for notes by Kris and Bix, so when I couldn't read the Observer because it wasn't on the site, I read that week's F4W instead. So I had even done what Conrad has done before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 I generally don't like Bruce Prichard, but I had listened to his Russo podcast and found it somewhat interesting, so I listened to some of his older episodes. I took special interest in the one that focuses specifically on why he got fired from WWE, and also the one regarding the Matt/Lita/Edge love triangle and subsequent angle. I also listened to this past week's episode about Demolition. Unless he does a new episode about something particularly interesting, I don't think I am going to listen to his podcast anymore. I really don't like the format. I don't dislike Conrad anywhere near as much as most of the people in this thread do, I guess mostly because he at least calls Prichard on his bullshit most of the time. The main thing that strikes me about this show, is that it really seems like Prichard doesn't want to be doing the show at all. Some episodes, it seems like pulling teeth to get any substantive information out of him, it's like he's being deposed or something and doesn't want to give away any information unless he is asked a specific question about a specific issue which is worded exactly in a way that leaves him no choice but to answer. Even when he does answer, he tends to give one word answers and can be downright rude and dismissive to Conrad. I know they are friends and get along outside the show, but to me it seems Conrad wants to do the show and discuss the topics, and he has to force Prichard to do that most weeks. I think Prichard would be happier doing his ridiculous impersonations (which aside from his Vince impression, are pretty terrible. Especially his Cornette, it doesn't sound anything like him.) I can live with him being a WWF/E apologist. I went into this show expecting that, you'd be a fool not to. But his evasive and sometimes rude and snarky attitude is really off-putting to me. I really get the impression he doesn't like doing this show and he does it because he has to, or something. I contrast that with the other podcasts I listen to, Killing the Town with Storm and Cyrus, Cornette's Late Night Drive-Thru, and The E & C Podcast of Awesomeness. All three of those shows, you can tell the hosts are having fun and enjoy talking with their co-hosts and guests. Not Bruce Prichard. I'm giving up on this guy, he's just too damn cranky, dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 I generally don't like Bruce Prichard, but I had listened to his Russo podcast and found it somewhat interesting, so I listened to some of his older episodes. The Russo podcast was fascinating for the bullshit debunking, but I came to the same kind of conclusions you did after listening to one or two others. You can see the same kind of attitude in the 1990 Timeline he did recently, where Sean at one point just throws "You can justify anything !" at him. A stark contrast with Schiavone, whose obviously having a great time doing this stuff and shows fairness to Meltz, sometimes calling him for his bullshit and sometime saying he was absolutely right and on point, while Bruce is just playing "stupid dirtsheet" in 2017. (and yeah, Prichard seems to be one of those guys who thinks he's funnier than he actually is. See Nash, Kevin too, although he can be indeed quite funny) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 The Dave stuff started as shtick on Bruce's part. That's something I know as an absolute fact. At this point he probably considers it a trademark part of the show like singing "With my Baby Tonight." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 The crankiness seems like schtick now too. Conrad and Bruce know what their listeners expect and play to it. Anytime Conrad snaps at Bruce or vice versa, it's basically a high spot for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 It's all a work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 As I said, I know that Conrad and Prichard are friends and business associates, so I know that for the most part, any tension between them during the show is either inconsequential, or yes..."a work." But if it is a work, then it's a really stupid work, in my opinion. Having a gimmick that gives listeners the impression you don't even want to be doing the show, or giving straight answers to questions isn't exactly going to inspire listeners to want to keep coming back. Then again, even Vince Russo can get weekly listeners for his stupid crap, so what the hell do I know? I guess there are fans for just about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted July 22, 2017 Report Share Posted July 22, 2017 As I said, I know that Conrad and Prichard are friends and business associates, so I know that for the most part, any tension between them during the show is either inconsequential, or yes..."a work." But if it is a work, then it's a really stupid work, in my opinion. Having a gimmick that gives listeners the impression you don't even want to be doing the show, or giving straight answers to questions isn't exactly going to inspire listeners to want to keep coming back. Then again, even Vince Russo can get weekly listeners for his stupid crap, so what the hell do I know? I guess there are fans for just about anything. i agree with you. I listen in spite of, rather than because of the gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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