Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

[Richeyedwards]

A brand new promotion called rival pro wrestling in California had there second show yesterday and it was named 'dead on arrival' maybe not the best naming choice.

[Richeyedwards]

Ricochet has been announced as being X to face eita at dragon gates gate of destiny show in a few days. I guess this is part of his goodbye tour to the indies/previous workplaces he is going on. I assume he looses the pwg title on his first defence before heading to wwe.

[iamthedoctor]

Been watching this on youtube

 

 

Never thought they would mention WWF on WCW TV in 1992. A fan asks Rick why he left WWF as he said about not recieving any WWF Title shots. I do remember one match against Warrior at Summerslam for the title but do you reckon if Rick had stayed in WWF if he would have eventually got a title run?

 

Been going across his career where he battled Jake for most of 88, then onto a feud with Warrior throughout 89 where he held the IC belt and then onto a program with Roddy Piper. His match with Snuka at Mania was a odd one because there was no buildup to the match, having a Piper/Rude match instead to end the feud probably would have been the best choice before he moved onto the Warrior in 1990.

 

Shortly after that was done it seemed the Bossman feud was the last we saw of Rick exiting WWF half way through the program, he said he wanted to quit but I thought he got fired because of the steroids thing. Either way do you reckon he would have moved onto another IC title run in 91 beating either Bret or Perfect or would he eventually 92/93 ended up winning the WWF title from say Flair/Bret or Savage?

[JNLister]

The standard story on Rude is that he quit because when he was out injured they continued false advertising him in main events but then rejected his argument that if his name was valuable enough to false advertise, he should get the relevant payoffs.

[Richeyedwards]

Does anyone know anything about the international bash show from 1989 in Kansas. It is a joint ajpw show with American stars. The card is:

 

 

Bobby Jaggers vs. Rick McCord

 

Tiger Mask vs. Tommy Sharpe

 

Doug Somers & Gary Young vs. Dory Funk Jr. & Terry Funk

 

Bill Irwin vs. Tenryu

 

Akio Sato vs. Curtis Hughes

Tag Team Match (Special Referee: Pat O'Connor)

The British Bulldogs (Davey Boy Smith & The Dynamite Kid) vs. The Rock 'n' Roll Express (Ricky Morton & Robert Gibson)

AJPW World Tag Team Title Match

Stan Hansen & Terry Gordy © vs. Jumbo Tsuruta & Yoshiaki Yatsu

WWA World Heavyweight Title Title Match

Mike George © vs. Steve Ray

 

Does anyone know how this card came about and why ajpw placed some importance on it as they had a tag title change on this show.

[Blehschmidt]

I have been rewatching Global and while the fond memories I have of watching it when I was like 12 are quickly diminishing, I do have to say...

 

"Hollywood" John Tatum is a fantastic stooging, chickenshit heel. From his strutty walk and semi-effeminate posture to his "martial arts" offense to the tights with hot pink and neon green highlights to the tremendous pouty face he makes when he is flustered.

 

He is the highlight of these shows for sure.

[El-P]

Does anyone know how this card came about and why ajpw placed some importance on it as they had a tag title change on this show.

 

Yeah, from memory of the AJPW TV show taped that day, which showed at least the tag title change and Bulldogs vs Rock'n'Roll, the matches were super underwhelming. Pretty much sucked to be honest.

[khawk20]

 

Does anyone know how this card came about and why ajpw placed some importance on it as they had a tag title change on this show.

 

Yeah, from memory of the AJPW TV show taped that day, which showed at least the tag title change and Bulldogs vs Rock'n'Roll, the matches were super underwhelming. Pretty much sucked to be honest.

 

 

A few more matches aired like the Mask-Sharpe bout and possibly Tenryu-Irwin.

 

Sparse crowd too which didn't help.

[Richeyedwards]

 

 

 

 

Does anyone know how this card came about and why ajpw placed some importance on it as they had a tag title change on this show.

Yeah, from memory of the AJPW TV show taped that day, which showed at least the tag title change and Bulldogs vs Rock'n'Roll, the matches were super underwhelming. Pretty much sucked to be honest.

A few more matches aired like the Mask-Sharpe bout and possibly Tenryu-Irwin.

 

Sparse crowd too which didn't help.

I have access to I think everything that aired on Japan TV which was the misawa match, Irwin Vs tenryu, the funks match, 8 mins of the 30 min bulldogs Vs rock and rolls draw and the tag title match between Gordy Hansen Vs yatsu jumbo.

[GSR]

I have been rewatching Global and while the fond memories I have of watching it when I was like 12 are quickly diminishing, I do have to say...

 

"Hollywood" John Tatum is a fantastic stooging, chickenshit heel. From his strutty walk and semi-effeminate posture to his "martial arts" offense to the tights with hot pink and neon green highlights to the tremendous pouty face he makes when he is flustered.

 

He is the highlight of these shows for sure.

If you've never seen it, check out his USWA Texas stuff from 1990.

[SPS]

 

 

 

Does anyone know how this card came about and why ajpw placed some importance on it as they had a tag title change on this show.

Yeah, from memory of the AJPW TV show taped that day, which showed at least the tag title change and Bulldogs vs Rock'n'Roll, the matches were super underwhelming. Pretty much sucked to be honest.

A few more matches aired like the Mask-Sharpe bout and possibly Tenryu-Irwin.

 

Sparse crowd too which didn't help.

I have access to I think everything that aired on Japan TV which was the misawa match, Irwin Vs tenryu, the funks match, 8 mins of the 30 min bulldogs Vs rock and rolls draw and the tag title match between Gordy Hansen Vs yatsu jumbo.

 

The R'N'R vs Bulldogs is out there in full as I have a copy and while by no means the greatest match of all time, it's still a very good and fun watch

[khawk20]

Express-Bulldogs is a good match but would have been much better if there was some context or backstory around it, as opposed to a one-off.

[iamthedoctor]

 

I have been rewatching Global and while the fond memories I have of watching it when I was like 12 are quickly diminishing, I do have to say...

 

"Hollywood" John Tatum is a fantastic stooging, chickenshit heel. From his strutty walk and semi-effeminate posture to his "martial arts" offense to the tights with hot pink and neon green highlights to the tremendous pouty face he makes when he is flustered.

 

He is the highlight of these shows for sure.

If you've never seen it, check out his USWA Texas stuff from 1990.

 

 

He was on Screensport in the UK in the 1990s when they aired episodes of Texas, I have a vague memory of him trying to blind a wrestler with hair cream with Jack Victory.

[goc]

 

I have been rewatching Global and while the fond memories I have of watching it when I was like 12 are quickly diminishing, I do have to say...

 

"Hollywood" John Tatum is a fantastic stooging, chickenshit heel. From his strutty walk and semi-effeminate posture to his "martial arts" offense to the tights with hot pink and neon green highlights to the tremendous pouty face he makes when he is flustered.

 

He is the highlight of these shows for sure.

If you've never seen it, check out his USWA Texas stuff from 1990.

 

Which is now all on youtube btw

[joeg]

I just watched the Savage vs Michaels matches from the 92 European Tour. The matches were very good, so my question is why did they never work a proper program?

[Ricky Jackson]

The story is they wanted to, Savage pushed for it, but Vince shot it down

[efrim]

I'm trying to get more serious lately about watching highly regarded Lucha and Japan stuff and I have a perhaps naive question. When watching older, especially non-english footage, what do you use to ground yourself in some kind of historical context for whats happening? Watching great matches is still fun in a vacuum, but I'm often frustrated in lacking information on what the outlook of the promotion at the time was, or what the major angles and feuds of the era were, what was making tape at the time and what wasn't, all sorts of things. Listening to podcasts with some of you all, it often seems like this grand oral tradition of knowledge I have no idea how to access.

[Sean Liska]

I'm trying to get more serious lately about watching highly regarded Lucha and Japan stuff and I have a perhaps naive question. When watching older, especially non-english footage, what do you use to ground yourself in some kind of historical context for whats happening? Watching great matches is still fun in a vacuum, but I'm often frustrated in lacking information on what the outlook of the promotion at the time was, or what the major angles and feuds of the era were, what was making tape at the time and what wasn't, all sorts of things. Listening to podcasts with some of you all, it often seems like this grand oral tradition of knowledge I have no idea how to access.

Generally I try to watch several weeks of the weekly TV, I find it pretty easy at that point to have a feel for who everyone is and their status and everything. Just jumping into the best matches cold is much tougher.

[Mad Dog]

Someone got a picture of Taker wearing a Young Bucks Bullet Club shirt in public. Vince's head just exploded.

[PeteF3]

PhotoShopped, apparently.

[C.S.]

Either way do you reckon he [Rick Rude] would have moved onto another IC title run in 91 beating either Bret or Perfect or would he eventually 92/93 ended up winning the WWF title from say Flair/Bret or Savage?

 

In no galaxy do I see Rick Rude becoming the WWF Champion. It's not for lack of talent - he certainly had an abundance of that - but I don't see how Rude leapfrogs Shawn Michaels to get that spot. Moving to WCW was the best thing he could have done for his career.

 

I have been rewatching Global and while the fond memories I have of watching it when I was like 12 are quickly diminishing, I do have to say...

 

"Hollywood" John Tatum is a fantastic stooging, chickenshit heel. From his strutty walk and semi-effeminate posture to his "martial arts" offense to the tights with hot pink and neon green highlights to the tremendous pouty face he makes when he is flustered.

 

He is the highlight of these shows for sure.

 

Oh man, he was one of my favorites as a kid. His facials were off-the-chart awesome. He probably didn't have the size for the WWF, but he sure had the facials for it. I always wondered why Vince never brought in Hollywood John Tatum or Rugged Rod Price when far lesser guys - like Alex Porteau, Bill Irwin (The Goon), and others - got shots.

[SAMS]

Can anyone point me to an online version of the Backlund/Valentine hour draw from 79? There was a copy up on youtube several months ago but has since been taken down and I can't seem to find another.

[SomethingSavage]

I've seen people shitting on the NWA relaunch elsewhere, and that is what it is - but my god. I'm loving these little video packages they've been putting together over the past several weeks. At the end of the day, I'm a fan. I'm going to go to bat for anything I'm digging, and I'm enjoying this stuff immensely at the moment.

 

I'll gladly leave all the "money mark" talk about Corgan at the door. The guy's clearly got designs and a desire to do something with it. Whether it makes a dent or not is something that can be followed as the whole thing unfolds though.

At this particular point in time? I'm just going to go for the ride and see how it shakes out.

 

But yeah. The videos going up on their YouTube channel have been tremendous. It's done so much to make the belt and the NWA brand seem prestigious and significant again.

 

Plus I was a huge fan of Championship Wrestling From Hollywood back in the day (2010 to 2013-ish), when Adam Pearce and Colt Cabana were putting together an incredibly underrated program for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship with the whole 7 Levels of Hate saga. So yeah. It's great to see Marquez linking back up with the NWA banner again after all this time.

 

The approach is entirely old-school. There's nothing really earth-shattering or groundbreaking about any of it. But that's precisely why I'm enjoying it. Definitely takes me back to that 2012-2014 time frame, when I was REALLY plugged into several indies and following the likes of NWA SAW, Traditional Championship Wrestling, Wrestling From Hollywood, etc. simtulaneously - all due to the very same reason.

All the hype and love that NXT got about two years later for taking an old-school, episodic approach to their television format and booking, with a strong emphasis on distinct characters and streamlined stories - it was being done by those promotions beforehand. Same style. Same approach. Same appeal.

 

Maybe it's purely a personal connection for me - and maybe even a minor nostalgia kick of sorts (can nostalgia exist only a handful of years later? ). But yeah. Whatever it is, I just thought I'd pile on some random love for this stuff. Carry on.

[NickH]

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[joeg]

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