C.S. Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Softball season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Donald Trump as half the brain Sid does apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 You have to admire his dedication to the con. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I've been watching a bunch of stuff recently. There are just some moves that should never be kicked out of because of how cool and devastating they look. The package piledriver for instance should never be kicked out of unless you can grab the ropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I've been watching a bunch of stuff recently. There are just some moves that should never be kicked out of because of how cool and devastating they look. The package piledriver for instance should never be kicked out of unless you can grab the ropes.Has there ever been a move that protected, even if it was just for one person, that once it was hit there was no kicking out? Jake Roberts DDT maybe? Edit: sorry, forgot Undertaker did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Luger's Torture Rack was pretty protected. The Jackhammer and Spear for Goldberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye12 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 I guess the Master and the Ruler of the World isn't quite as powerful as he thought he was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Doing a little Googling on this end, it appears there may be some truth to Sid's story. I thought it was carny bullshit, but it looks like I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Following up on Brazilian Pro Wrestling, another one of our biggest names - to the point he kind of became a cultural icon, also appearing in many movies, and his look became a slang of its own in some circles. Ted Boy Marino! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Following up on Brazilian Pro Wrestling, another one of our biggest names - to the point he kind of became a cultural icon, also appearing in many movies, and his look became a slang of its own in some circles. Ted Boy Marino! Really interesting stuff, I know next to nothing about the wrestling scene in Brazil. The only things I've read about it are about Kimura working some matches there during the period he ended up having the famous shoot with Helio Gracie and that the Vale Tudo fights used to be televised on Brazilian TV until a match where future UFC 1 ref João Alberto Barreto broke the arm of an opponent who refused to submit and due to the violence TV execs cancelled the show and replaced it with Pro Wrestling instead. I wonder who taught these guys how to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 If it's the Tatu lineage I would believe that the US wrestling troupe that came in 1941 (Kwariani, Shikat etc) might have been highly influential. Of course that would have to be researched, you guys could probably make up a better story in the armchair section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Coil Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Has anyone seen the list of average WWF/E House Show attendance figures flying around recently? A guy crunched a shit load of numbers from various sources (mainly the WON) and it came back with some really interesting stuff. The guy is getting shit because he's an 'anti-smark', likes the big guys and is an nWo guy but he has really done some research to the point that people think he's made it all up. He has some videos on the internet too and some of the information he puts in the description boxes are also very, very interesting. A lot of his numbers, quotes and so on and so forth comes from the WON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 "Interesting", such as...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 How much of Poffo's ICW is out there footage wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Coil Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Interesting as in interesting. The person's name in nWoWolfpacTV. He is often accused of being biased but he always states his sources.. which, of course, the detractors ignore and just mock him (the Wreddit and Wrestling Forum crowd mostly). The numbers thing is on his Twitter but I can't post it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Coil Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Reading through some of the threads on Wreddit and Wrestling Forum in regards to Wrestle Kingdom's main event outcome has been glorious. The absolute most fun I've had visiting those places in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Interesting as in how though? Confirmation of beliefs that the general grain of wrestling fans hold? The opposite? Is somebody a bigger draw than we've been led to believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Interesting as in interesting. The person's name in nWoWolfpacTV. He is often accused of being biased but he always states his sources.. which, of course, the detractors ignore and just mock him (the Wreddit and Wrestling Forum crowd mostly). The numbers thing is on his Twitter but I can't post it here. That sounds krone-meltzer interesting, therefore not really interesting to most of us if the year is no longer 2001 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsdmf Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Since I don't watch nearly enough current wrestling to do a list, here are my Top 30 First Time Watches of 2017: 1. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Jun Akiyama [AJPW 2/27/00]2. Aja Kong vs. KAORU [GAEA 2/13/00]3. Marty Jones vs. Terry Rudge [Joint Promotions 11/30/76]4. Giant Baba vs. Billy Robinson [AJPW 7/24/74]5. Genichiro Tenryu vs. Keiji Mutoh [AJPW 6/8/01]6. CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar [WWE SummerSlam 8/18/13]7. Trevor Lee vs. Chip Day [CWF Mid-Atlantic 4/26/17]8. Carlos Colon vs. Stan Hansen (Cage Match) [WWC 3/14/87]9. Dirty White Boy vs. Tracy Smothers (Tennessee Chain Match) [sMW Bluegrass Brawl 4/2/93]10. Terry Funk vs. Mark Lewin [Houston 4/27/79]11. El Hijo del Santo vs. Blue Panther [Monterrey 4/9/00]12. Kenta Kobashi vs. Yoshihiro Takayama [AJPW 5/26/00]13. Nobuhiko Takada vs. Akira Maeda [uWF 11/10/88]14. El Hijo del Santo & Negro Casas vs. Bestia Salvaje & Scorpio Jr. [CMLL 3/19/99]15. Roman Reigns vs. Daniel Bryan [WWE Fastlane 2/22/15]16. Barry WIndham vs. Ron Bass [CWF 11/19/83]17. Verne Gange vs. Billy Robinson [iWE 11/20/74]18. Shinya Hashimoto & Takashi Iizuka vs. Naoya Ogawa & Kazunari Murakami [NJPW 1/4/00]19. Etsuko Mita & Mima Shimoda vs. Tomoko Watanabe & Kumiko Maekawa [AJW 3/4/00]20. Takehiro Murahama vs. Naohiro Hoshikawa [Osaka Pro 3/25/00]21. Harley Race vs. Andre the Giant [Houston 1/7/79]22. Negro Casas, Atlantis & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs. Villano III, Pieroth Jr. & Fuerza Guerrera [CMLL 4/14/00]23. Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar [WWE Hell in a Cell 10/23/15]24. HHH vs. Chris Jericho [WWF Backlash 4/17/00]25. Ric Flair & Barry Windham vs. Ricky Steamboat & Eddie Gilbert [WCW 1/21/89]26. Yuki Ishikawa & Naoki Sano vs. Alexander Otsuka & Kazunari Murakami [battlARTS 3/25/00]27. Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena vs. Seth Rollins [WWE Royal Rumble 1/26/15]28. Atlantis, Mr. Niebla & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs. Dr. Wagner Jr., Bestia Salvaje & Scorpio Jr. [CMLL 2/25/00]29. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi [AJPW 4/11/00]30. Lioness Asuka & Sonoko Kato vs. Sugar Sato & Chikayo Nagashima [GAEA 2/13/00] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' Brian Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 How much of Poffo's ICW is out there footage wise? Not a lot unfortunately. There are a couple of YouTube channels that have several episodes and some assorted matches and promos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrainfollower Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 No one ever kicked out of the Stratusfaction bulldog. Jazz got saved by defeat from it once, that was it. I can't recall anyone ever kicking out of Nikki's rack attack and winning against her, though IIRC Brie did it once but still lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 How much of Poffo's ICW is out there footage wise? Not a lot unfortunately. There are a couple of YouTube channels that have several episodes and some assorted matches and promos. That's a bummer. I would love to see the weekly TV for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 Francine from ECW just got on twitter and its sort of hilariously endearing. She is such a mom on witter. For example, I think it was this morning she explained that her kids are home for a snow day so its going to be arts and crafts today at home. An hour later she is like, "i guess people like me so I'll work some shirts and pictures for you all to buy" I don't know why but her twitter growth is entertaining to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 Francine from ECW just got on twitter and its sort of hilariously endearing. She is such a mom on witter. She's quite fun on those Legends of Extreme reunion shoots too. She actually mentionned during one of those that being a mom is basically all that she ever wanted to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 How much of Poffo's ICW is out there footage wise? This lot is known to exist ICW 1979/South-Eastern 1979 (Goldmine 1) (From ICW - 1979) Terry Gibbs v. The Assassin "Leaping" Lanny Poffo v. George McCrary "Macho Man" Randy Savage v. Rick McCord “Macho Man" Randy Savage Interview The Masked Assassin & Col. Yin Kee v. Hoot Gibson & Jim Pride "Macho Man" Randy Savage v. Jim Pride Bob Orton, Jr & Bob Roop v. Terry Gibbs & Ron Garvin Terry Gibbs & Ron Garvin Interview The Assassin v. Jim Pride George McCrary v. Jim Pride Randy Savage & Col Yin Kee vs Terry Gibbs & Lanny Poffo Bob Roop & Bob Orton, Jr v. George McCrary & Clint Fields "Macho Man" Randy Savage v. Rick McCord & Jim Pride Bob Roop & Bob Orton, Jr Interview The Assassin & Col. Yin Kee v. Terry Gibbs & Ron Garvin (finish cut off) (From Southeastern Knoxville - 1979) Eddie Mansfield & "Dr D" David Schultz vs Dean Ho & Mike Webb Jimmy Golden v. Ted Allen Norvell Austin Interview Norvell Austin v. Ted Allen Bonus Classic Commercials ICW TV September 13 & September 20, 1980 September 13, 1980 Randy Savage interview Ronnie Garvin interview Jim Pride vs. Jeff Sword Ronnie Garvin interview (clips of Wayne Davis being revealed as Savage’s protégé) Bob Orton/Doug Vine/Tennessee Stud vs. Big Boy Williams/George Weingeroff/Lanny Poffo Big Boy/Pez Whatley promo Bob Orton/Lanny Poffo promo Mr X (Ronnie Garvin) vs. Wayne Davis Randy Savage/Bob Orton promo Bob Orton Promo Randy Savage vs. Ric McCord Randy Savage/Bob Orton Promo Ronnie Garvin promo September 20, 1980 Devil’s Duo vs. George Weingeroff/Jim Pride Randy Savage/Bob Orton promo Savage interview ICW TV October 1980 Pez Whatley promo Rip Rogers vs. Lanny Poffo (Savage commentating/run-in) Ronnie Garvin promo Pez Whatley/Bob Orton interview Pez Whatley vs. Bob Orton (Savage run-in) Jim Pride vs. Bob Orton Ronnie Garvin vs. Terry Harris Ronnie Garvin interview Randy Savage promo $100,000 Bob Orton interview Bob Roop/Savage interview (calls out Savage) Wee Willie vs. Cupid (Savage involved) Savage interview Lanny Poffo (pez/weingeroff) hold of the week Savage promo $100,000 Pez Whatley/Lanny Poffo/Savage interviews ICW TV October 28, 1980 Ron Garvin promo Bob Orton interview Lanny Poffo vs. Terry Harris Savage interview Pez Whatley promo Ronnie Garvin vs. Bob Orton (savage interferes) Savage $100,000 interview Pez Whately vs. Davis Lanny Poffo interview Savage/Orton promo Poffo ICW Early 80's (Savage, Poffo, Orton, Garvin etc) Gibbs & Roop vs Savage & Rip Rogers Orton vs Garvin Miser vs Dean Savage vs Rataymus Savage, Lanny, Garvin & Braccero Brawl Rataymus vs Braccero Doggendorff vs Jobber Rip R. vs Ric McCord Sword vs Martin Destroyer (Savage) vs Cook Roop. Lanny, Weingeroff interview Vines & Sword vs Pez vs Chief Eagle Garvin vs Rick Link Rick Starr & Rip vs Sartan & Tapu Roop & Big Boy Williams vs Malenko & Peters JYD vs Reed Lanny vs Broomfield Broomfield face turn DWBs vs Rufus & Bryant Savage vs Martin ICW 1981 - 2 discs ICW 1981- 1983 Pez Whatley is late and forfeits match Rick Zarte challenges Great Tio fot TV Title VTR: Weingeroff vs Great Tio TV Title Match Bill Martin & Tapu vs Convertible Blonds Randy Savage vs Cowboy Young Ronnie Garvin & Lanny Poffo introduce Miss Macho - Pez Whatley in Drag Tied up in a Box Funny Lanny Poffo vs Rick Zarta Ronnie Garvin wants Crusher Broomfield's (OMG) Contract/Ox Baker int. Lanny Poffo vs Tony Faulk Recap: Ronnie Garvin stomps Ox Baker's False Teeth VTR: Ronnie Garvin vs Bob Orton - Mop Head Match Convertible Blonds vs George Weingeroff & Juan Zapatta VTR: Crusher Broomfield vs Ernie Ladd Lawler Whimpbuster Video/Savage Video Convertible Blonds vs Hoot Gibson & Angelo Poffo TN. Street Fight-Hickerson & Spoiler vs Tommy Rich & Eddie Gilbert Bob Orton vs Buddy Landell Doug Vines & Jeff Sword vs Rick McCord & War Eagle Rip Rogers vs Bob Stabler - Brat Shirt Match Rataymus vs Rip Rogers Doug Vines vs Tony Faulk Ronnie Garvin vs Big Boy Williams ICW Warlords of the Ring ICW World Champion Randy Savage vs. Ronnie Garvin in a "Steel Cage Match." Bruiser Brody vs. Nikolai Volkoff Hoot Gibson, Mr. Wrestling & Ron Sexton vs. The Knockdown Riders. Angelo Poffo vs. Tony Falk. Pez Whatley vs. Jerry Eagle. Mike Sharpe vs. The Italian Stallion. Ronnie Garvin vs. Lanny Poffo. ICW Masters of Mayhem Jerry Lawler vs. Randy Savage in a "Steel Cage Match." Tommy Rich vs. Rick Rude - AWA Southern Title. The Rock & Roll Express vs. Randy Savage & Lanny Poffo Jerry Lawler & Austin Idol vs. AWA World Tag Team Champions The Road Warriors Jerry Lawler won a "$10,000.00 Triple Chance Two-Ring Battle Royal" that also featured: Rick Rude, Randy Savage, The Road Warriors, Eddie Gilbert, The Spoiler, Dutch Mantell, Tommy Rich, Masao Ito, Lanny Poffo, Jim Neidhart, Porkchop Cash, Buddy Roberts, Jerry Brown, Mark Batten, Chico Torres, Johnny Wilhoy, John King, Ron Sexton, and others. Ron Garvin & Hugh Gibson vs. Al Snow & Big Boy Williams The Interns vs. The Dirty White Boys Debbie Combs vs. Donna Daye – 2/3 falls Memphis and ICW 1984 - 3 discs Disc 1 Austin Idol vs Jim 'Anvil' Neidhart Humongous vs Jerry Lawler So. Title Match Sabu vs Terry Taylor So. Title Match Rick Rude w/Angel vs Dutch Mantel w/D. Combs Austin Idol vs Randy Savage So. Title Match Randy Savage vs Jerry Lawler So. Title Cage Match Jerry Lawler vs Rick Rude So. Title Match Poffos vs Jerry Lawler & Jimmy Valiant Disc 2 Ronnie Garvin vs Randy Savage ICW Title Cage Match Phil Hickerson & Spoiler vs Tommy Rich & Eddie Gilbert Tn. St. Fight Rip Rogers vs Chief Tapu Poffos vs R&R Express Fabulous Ones vs PYTs Road Warriors vs Jerry Lawler & Austin Idol Austin Idol vs Masa Ito It Title Natch Zambui Express vs Tommy Rich & Eddie Gilbert Masa Ito vs Tommy Rich It. Title Match Disc 3 Poffos vs R&R Express Ret. Match Bob Orton Jr. vs Buddy Landell ICW TV Title Match King Kong Bundy vs Jerry Lawler $10,000 Challenge Match Randy Savage vs Rick Rude Cadillac Tournament Match King Kong Bundy & Rick Rude vs Jerry Lawler & Randy Savage Eddie Gilbert vs Jerry Lawler VTR: Bob Orton Jr. vs Ron Garvin Mop Head Match R&R Express vs UnMasked Nightmares Memphis/ICW – 5 discs (Memphis) Phil Hickerson & Spoiler vs. Tommy Rich & Eddie Gilbert in a Tennessee Street Fight (ICW) Leaping Lanny Poffo & George Weingroff vs. Rick Starr & Terry Harris (Memphis) Randy Savage & Lanny Poffo vs. Rock-n-Roll Express Fabulous Ones vs. PYT Express Road Warriors vs. Austin Idol & Jerry Lawler Pork Chop Cash vs. Jim Jaemson Masao Ito vs. Austin Idol (ICW) Donna Day vs. Debbie Combs in a 2 out of 3 Falls (Memphis) PYT Express vs. Dutch Mantel & Pat Hutchinson Tommy Rich & Eddie Gilbert vs. Zambouie Express (ICW) Ronnie Garvin promo (ICW) Ron Sexton vs. Tony Falk – Rodimias runs in, attacks both guys and then sprays a mysterious green mist in George Wiengroff’s face (Memphis) Rick Rude & King Kong Bundy vs. Jerry Lawler & Randy Savage Disc #2 (ICW) Ox Baker promo Ox Baker vs. Ernie Ladd Hustler Rip Rogers vs. Rick Link (Memphis) Jim Niedhart vs. Austin Idol (ICW) Lanny Poffo vs. Tony Falk Ronnie Garvin vs. Big Boy Williams (Memphis ) Jerry Lawler vs. Lord Humongous for the Southern Title – Lawler wins the belt (Memphis)Junk Yard Dog vs. Butch Reed Sabu (Coco Samoa) vs. Terry Taylor (ICW) Ronnie Garvin vs. Randy Savage for the ICW Title inside a Steel Cage El Baccero & George Weingroff vs. Pez Whatley & Rip Rogers for the US Tag Titles Crusher Broomfield vs. Lanny Poffo Ronnie Garvin promo Rip Rogers vs. Lanny Poffo “Eye of the Tiger” Video Disc #3 (Memphis)Nightmares vs. Tim Ashley & Steve Constant – This is odd, Gordon Solie is in Memphis doing play by play as Lance Russell does color. Nightmares are unmasked Lanny Poffo cuts a promo on Iron Mike Sharpe Lanny Poffo vs. Iron Mike Sharpe for the Mid-America Title Jerry Lawler vs. Nick Bockwinkle for the AWA Title Playboy Frazier, Iron Mike Sharpe & Jerry Bryant w/Gen. Eddie Gilbert vs. Tojo Yamamoto & Batten Twins Handsome Jimmy Valiant vs. the Assassin with Jerry Lawler handcuffed to Jimmy Hart at ringside (ICW) Lanny Poffo vs. George Weingroff (Memphis) Adrian Street, Eddie Gilbert & Mr. Wrestling vs. Randy Savage, Lanny Poffo & Chief Joe Lightfoot Randy Savage vs. Exotic Adrian Street Johnny Wilhoyt & Jerry Bryant vs. the Daydreamers Dirty White Boy & Len Denton vs. the Interns Disc #4 Randy Savage & Lanny Poffo vs. Joe Lightfoot & Danny Haggar Jerry Lawler vs. Kamala for the Southern Title (ICW) Lanny Poffo vs. George Weingeroff Pez Whatley vs. Doug Vines (Memphis) Masao Ito vs. Tonny Torres Randy Savage vs. Austin Idol Rick Rude vs. Dutch Mantel Mr. X vs. Jerry Osti – the top rope breaks Randy Savage promo Randy Savage vs. David Haskins – they never fixed it so they are working in a ring with no top rope Clip of Randy Savage piledriving Jerry Lawler and the King being stretchered out Randy Savage jumps and bloodies Japanese photographer Jimmy Suzuki Tim Ashley & Steve Constant vs. JR Hall & Jerry Garvin “International Playboy” Bobby Colt promo Bobby Colt vs. Jim Jameson Lanny Poffo vs. Tracy Smothers – Smothers must be a rookie here Iron Mike Sharpe promo – he gets into a brawl with Jerry Osti PYT Express vs. Chief Tall Tree & Billy Travis PYT Express promo Disc #5 Fabulous Ones Promo Fabulous Ones vs. Bill Rose & the Spoiler Mr. Wrestling vs. Mark Batten PYTs run out and throw a big net over the Fabs and then beat them up Adrian Street vs. Jerry Oski Dutch Mantel promo – Eddie Gilbert jumps Dutch Eddie Gilbert promo Dutch Mantel music video Dutch Mantel vs. the Invader Eddie Gilbert promo Mr. Wrestling vs. Tim Ashley Randy Savage promo Fabulous Ones music video to Billy Ocean’s “Loverboy” Dutch Mantel promo Fabulous Ones promo Jerry Lawler & Steve Keirn vs. The Hoggs ICW 59 Liz Huette introduction, Nightmares vs. Ashley/Constant, Savage ICW Booking promo, Lanny Poffo int/Sharpe confro., Sharpe vs. Poffo(Savage run-in), Bockwinkel (AWA Champ)vs. Lawler (Mid South Coliseum), Huette out-tro. PM films Southwest 16 & ICW 6 Southwest features: Fernandez, Fulton, Perez, Mascaras, Hollywood Blondes, Sheepherders. ICW: Liz Huette intro Hickerson/Spoiler vs. Rich/Gilbert (Tennessee Street fight) Rip Rogers vs. Chief Tapu Weingroff/Lanny Poffo vs. Ricky Starr/Terry Harris Savage/Poffo vs. R & R Express Fabulous Ones vs. PYTs Road Warriors vs. Lawler/Idol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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