Paige and all that

[supersonic]

No matter what, don't take away my Total Nonstop Alberto.

[iamthedoctor]

Exactly. Hence the sarcasm, but it wasn't clear I guess. Really, the idea of building around Alberto was just not right to begin with.

 

I dont get whats so great about Alberto, his WWE run was pretty lame so coming to GFW he shouldn't be anywhere near the main event.

[Mad Dog]

I kind of get why people keep making the mistake of trying to use Alberto as a center piece. He should be a star in theory. Good look, good talker, gimmick is solid and his inring work is above average. If you listed all of his qualities in paper we'd all think he was good. It's when you put it all into practice that you get the boring lump of nothing that Alberto is most nights.

[WingedEagle]

Was there ever any chatter about Alberto's issues or character during his WWE run? I don't recall hearing much about him at that time.

[Mad Dog]

I don't remember hearing much until they released him.

[DMJ]

Its obviously Monday Morning Quarterbacking or the benefit of retrospect, but I recall the chatter about Del Rio always centering around the idea that Vince was high on him, that his push was a top priority (hence having him beat Punk in 2011), that he was a critical piece in bringing in Hispanic viewers as "the next Eddie" or "the next Rey" or whatever.

 

All of these things, in retrospect, support the theory that if Del Rio was partying hard back then or if there were questions of his character, they would've been swept under the rug a bit.

 

Even with Angle, the details of issues seemed to come to light when he went to TNA as the DUIs racked up and the reason for his departure became common knowledge.

 

Is the bigger conspiracy question, though, whether or not this is actually a recurring page of the "future endeavors" playbook? I mean, Tully Blanchard comes to mind too here.

[Matt D]

Wasn't his big face turn about Santa Claus?

[SomethingSavage]

I thought he turned face in some random, nothing segment against 3MB or something. Then - like, a week later - he was heel again and ran over Santa Claus. A week after, he was baby face again and getting set up for a title program with Big Show.

 

Actually thought that was his best in-ring run there

.. As a fired up baby face, defending his buddy and standing up to the big, nasty bully.

[Mad Dog]

I liked his first heel run against Misterio quite a bit. I still don't know why they had him lose at Mania. He really lost all of his momentum with that loss.

[SomethingSavage]

The initial Mysterio series was decent. I remember being disappointed with the 2/3 Falls match at the time, but I haven't gone back and revisited it in forever.

 

The couple of times they programmed him with Christian likely led to his best all-around heel performances though. That SummerSlam match was tremendous, and the bout that set it up - centering on the arm & shoulder injury, was great as well.

 

The Kalisto matches were truckloads of fun, too. I may even rate them over the Rey series. There was at least one pre-show match (2/3 Falls also, iirc) that was really, really good.

[Loss]

I sometimes get frustrated that WWE doesn't push more people under 25, considering the success in the past of people like the Von Erichs and Tommy Rich. Then I remember why WWE doesn't push more people under 25, considering those same people. The track record of wrestlers working on top and making big money young just isn't great, sadly.

[iamthedoctor]

Was there ever any chatter about Alberto's issues or character during his WWE run? I don't recall hearing much about him at that time.

 

I remember fans not liking his run when he came back as a suprise match against Cena wondering why they even rehired him.

 

How far back it goes Ive no idea but I think problems started from the fanbase when he won the Rumble.

[KawadaSmile]

Seems like the police is suggesting that she should be charged with battery.

 

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/paige-police-suggest-charged-airport/#.WW-wGITyvIU

 

 

What a fucking mess.

[supremebve]

Seems like the police is suggesting that she should be charged with battery.

 

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/paige-police-suggest-charged-airport/#.WW-wGITyvIU

 

 

What a fucking mess.

If there was indeed cocaine in her bag, it could be a lot worse. Seriously, if you are dating someone and they yell, "She has cocaine in her bag," in an airport, go ahead and end that relationship. That person is trying to get you arrested on federal drug trafficking charges, and get you sent to hardcore, maximum security prison. He doesn't love you. That is seriously one of the most coldhearted things I've ever heard of anyone doing to someone they are in a relationship with. That isn't anything to joke about at all.

[Mad Dog]

In fairness to both of them. They had probably been up all weekend doing the Coke that was in her bag.

[sek69]

In fairness to both of them. They had probably been up all weekend doing the Coke that was in her bag.

 

Probably, but to throw someone who's supposed to be the love of your life under the bus to that degree is quite the extra level of fucked up.

 

 

Possible silver lining to all this, I'm not sure of her naturalization status so maybe she'll end up deported and at least have some distance between them?

[El-P]

Re-watch that Youshoot he did a few years ago, where he was portraying himself as a serious family guy who wouldn't mess around...

 

Yeah, this is some seriously fucked up shit.

 

GWF, time fo futur endeavor the guy...

[fakeplastictrees]

WWE is pretty amazing at keeping shit under wraps. ADR, Paige, both Hardys, and Angle all showed what happens when the WWE PR Team and Vince McMahon are not around to hide your shit. Also, who the fuck carries around coke in an airport in a post 9/11 world?

[iamthedoctor]

Seems like the police is suggesting that she should be charged with battery.

 

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/paige-police-suggest-charged-airport/#.WW-wGITyvIU

 

 

What a fucking mess.

 

I think she is covering for him.

[KawadaSmile]

 

Seems like the police is suggesting that she should be charged with battery.

 

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/paige-police-suggest-charged-airport/#.WW-wGITyvIU

 

 

What a fucking mess.

 

I think she is covering for him.

 

Alberto is no longer a suspect in the investigation:

 

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/airport-alberto-patron-not-suspect/#.WXLLGITyvIV

 

well, I think that's it for her.

[Rah]

Paige and Delberto seem to be back in love, again, and explained "their side" of things on Bully Ray's podcast

 

 

 

 

GFW champion Alberto el Patron and WWE star Paige appeared on SiriusXM's Busted Open (hosted by Bully Ray) this afternoon to publicly address the 7/9 Orlando Airport incident and subsequent fallout, including Patron's still standing suspension from Global Force Wrestling.

Paige said they are laughing about the situation now, but the situation was a media nightmare for them and their family. Paige said they argue like a normal couple but since they are under the media spotlight, it was presented like it was a massacre. She said they are waiting for the official report to come out so people can see what really happen. Paige admitted they shouldn't argue in public, but they are a couple and can't shy away from living. She joked that sometimes they say mean things when they fight.

Alberto said that she's a beautiful girl from England and he's a handsome guy from Mexico and they don't want to be celebrity types who live locked in their houses. Patron said that even the Sergeant in Orlando told them it was nothing. Alberto said they argued like a normal couple and it was a bad day and the Internet told a bunch of lies. They have been waiting for the official report to come out because today, it doesn't matter what you say, because the Internet will say what they want. He said that they have strong personalities and they go all the way, whether they are loving or fighting, they go all the way. He described them as "passionate people." He said it was just them being angry and saying things they don't really feel and "they" decided to make it a big deal.

Patron said they have short tempers and sometimes they get into a fight for 20 minutes and tell each other they don't want to see each other anymore and three minutes later they are fine. He said that there is no one more passionate than they are.

Bully Ray asked them to expand on what were lies and untruths that have been passed on. Paige said there was a story about her being arrested in San Antonio, when she wasn't even in the Orlando system. She said 90% of the things were wrong.

Paige said that Alberto said something he shouldn't have said and ended up with a drink over his head. She joked he should have gotten the entire plate of spaghetti on his head. Alberto reiterated he said something mean that he shouldn't have said it and said it was mean. Patron said he felt humiliated since he was surrounded by people and reacted angrily but three minutes later, the police asked what he wanted to do. Alberto told them nothing so the police let them go and advised them to go their separate ways until they calm down.

Paige said that people shouldn't do what they did, especially if they are in public. Alberto said sometimes when you argue, things come out and then three minutes later, you are fine. He said that they were refusing to live life like they are celebrities and wanted to live like normal people, but they were in the public eye. He said that he wasn't saying their behavior wasn't bad "because it was" but he's trying to teach his kids to act a certain way and he should have been doing the same in the public eye, with fans or just being out in the public. He said they inspire people from all over the world to be better people and show them that if they dream something, they can accomplish them and see their dreams come real.

Paige said that she wants to apologize specifically to the younger fans. Paige said that they shouldn't have acted the way they did. Paige said that she can apologize, but he's not going to do that - he's just going to act the way they should be acting in public. He said that if anyone was offended, that was not their intention and they are going to move forward.

Bully said that they are saying everything is great, but Paige's family has stated they are very concerned about her well being. Paige said that she loves her family but some of the media stuff is scary to look at and they are reacting to those stories. Paige said her family is doing well with the exception of her Uncle, who passed away yesterday. Patron said that their families found out about everything via social media and the Internet and that's not nice. He said that they didn't really know what was going on until they spoke with them. They are concerned someone was arrested. Patron said his family stays away from social media and the Internet so when they hear something, they wait and call them to see what was going on. Paige's family believed the Internet BS and reacted accordingly.

Patron said they were waiting for the official report because it doesn't matter what you say until that report comes out. Paige came out and said what happened publicly and everyone reacted as if that wasn't the truth. He said the "almighty Internet" reacted and will react until the authorities put out an official report.

Bully brought up that Patron has not been charged and is "totally free and cleared" and asked him if he was still suspended by GFW. Patron said they are trying to do things differently from how they are usually done in pro wrestling. Patron said that rules should apply to everyone. In Combate Americas, he was always pushing for fines if fighters didn't make weight or weren't ready for fights. GFW needed to conduct their own investigation and he understands that. He said he was OK with the suspension and everything is "clear with the company" and he "gets to go back to work soon." Patron said that he doesn't know when that will be because he's been wrestling in Mexico but he'll be back soon.

Paige also noted that she would be returning to WWE soon. She said that she had a CT scan earlier today. She said she can't wait to back to work as she had her surgery last October. She said she's ready to go back and see the other women. She's excited to see all the new women, naming Bayley, Alexa Bliss and Nia Jax and said that she was so happy Naomi was champion right now.

Patron was asked if he would be at the GFW events this weekend. Patron said that wouldn't happen as they set a date for the suspension to be lifted and they all agreed they would be OK with the suspension because you should be treated the same way no matter where in the card you are. Patron said he would be back with GFW "very soon." Patron said an announcement would be made as soon as he is in touch with his bosses.

Bully asked them if they were genuinely happy to be together and if they saw this relationship lasting. Paige said he can be an a-hole but he's her a-hole. Patron said that they want to be together and you never know what will happen in the future, but they've been working to make it work for over a year in this relationship. Whether they are supported by others or not, they are together and happy. Patron said something bad happens and people ignore the good and forget about it. He said that Paige has been helping him and taking care of his kids from day one. When he left WWE and when she went through neck surgery, they were there for each other. Paige goes everywhere with him to support him. They bring positive things to each others' lives. One bad thing on the Internet and social media makes everything else forgotten.

 

 

 

 

The part on being passionate in either a positive or negative way seems a bit dubious but the paragraph in relation to how Paige's family feels and Delberto's differentation between his family's method of reacting and hers is... yeah.

 

I'm without actual context, and maybe I'm gut-reading too far into things, but that doesn't seem healthy to me.

[MoS]

Being "passionate" in a negative way has always seemed really unhealthy to me and it is a cinema obsession I have never understood. I just hope no one gets seriously hurt.

[C.S.]

I didn't listen to the podcast - I only read excerpts - but Bully Ray passively believing their bullshit really smacks of ridiculous enabling behavior to me, not to mention exploitative by having them on in the first place. Bully Ray is not exactly the most well-reasoned guy around though - he goes on tirades against "marks" on Twitter and then lashes out and whines when he gets his own bullshit shoved back in his face. He strikes me as a typical "can dish it out but can't take it" jackass. Makes sense, then, that he'd be simpatico with Alberto.

[Coffey]

In the audio that leaked, wasn't Alberto screaming to check her bags for cocaine while in an airport? That seems like something pretty serious to gloss over now on two people here on passports with how strict our drug laws are & how crazy airports have been.

[Mad Dog]

Being "passionate" in a negative way has always seemed really unhealthy to me and it is a cinema obsession I have never understood. I just hope no one gets seriously hurt.

It's kind of the default defense people use who are in super toxic relationships. I've heard someone pull out the passion defense more than once in my life.