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NEW JAPAN PRO WRESTLING

 

Big Fight Series II: 1985/03/29 - 04/18

Dick Murdoch
Adrian Adonis
Billy Jack (Billy Jack Haynes)
Mike Miller
Gestapo (Rip Oliver)
Dave Taylor
Bruiser Brody [04/18]

 

http://www.puroresu.com/newjapan/results/nj198503bigfight2.html

 

IWGP & WWF Champion Series: 1985/05/10 - 06/13

Andre the Giant
Dick Murdoch
Adrian Adonis
Mike Sharpe Jr.
Tony St. Clair
Canek
Enrique Vera
Ron Miller (cancelled)
King Kong Bundy [first half]
Masked Superstar [first half]
Hulk Hogan [partial]
Pedro Morales [partial]
Jimmy Snuka [partial]
Bob Backlund [partial]

 

http://www.puroresu.com/newjapan/results/nj198505iwgp.html

 

Challenge Spirit '85: 1985/08/23 - 09/19 & Taiwan Tour: 1985/09/21 - 1985/09/27

Giant Machine (Andre the Giant)
Super Machine (Masked Superstar)
Siva Afi
Hacksaw Higgins
Tony St. Clair
Kerry Brown

 

http://www.puroresu.com/newjapan/results/nj198508challenge.html

 

Burning Spirit in Autumn: 1985/10/04 - 10/31

Bruiser Brody
Kevin Von Erich [10/04]
Kerry Von Erich [10/04]
Konga the Barbarian [first half]
Bad News Allen
Roger Smith [partial]
Rick Oliver
Karl Steiner (Bob Dellasella)
Ray Candy
Fishman
Giant Gustave [seconf half]

 

http://www.puroresu.com/newjapan/results/nj198510autumn.html

 

'85 IWGP Tag Team League: 1985/11/15 - 12/12

Bruiser Brody [boycotted 12/12]
Jimmy Snuka [boycotted 12/12]
Dick Murdoch
Masked Superstar (Bill Eadie)
Hacksaw Higgins
Nord the Barbarian
Canek
Dos Caras
Pat Kelly
Mike Kelly

 

http://www.puroresu.com/newjapan/results/nj198511iwgptag.html

 

 

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ALL JAPAN PRO WRESTLING

 

Gekitoh All Stars: 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Brazo de Oro

Brazo de Plata

Davey Boy Smith

Dynamite Kid

Giant Haystacks

Kabuki

Gypsy Joe

Jerry Lawler

Jimmy Valiant

Killer Khan

Tiger Jeet Singh

Gekitoh Exciting Wars: 2/22/85 - 3/14/85

Bruiser Brody

Chavo Guerrero

Harley Race

Killer Khan

Road Warrior Animal

Road Warrior Hawk

Tim Brooks

Violence! Super Power Wars: 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Bob Brown

Dick Slater

Killer Khan

Ric Flair

Ron Bass

Stan Hansen

Ted Dibiase

Big Lariat Festival: 5/10/85 - 5/16/85

Ben Bassarab

Davey Boy Smith

Dynamite Kid

Killer Khan

Stan Hansen

Gekishin Thunder Wars: 5/17/85 - 6/13/85

Ben Bassarab

Davey Boy Smith

Dynamite Kid

Killer Khan

Road Warrior Animal

Road Warrior Hawk

Terry Gordy

Tiger Jeet Singh

Heat Wave Summer Action Wars: 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Texas Red (Cousin Luke)

Harley Race

Gypsy Joe

Jerry Blackwell

Killer Khan

Stan Hansen

Steve Regal

Summer Dream Festival: 8/2/85 - 8/8/85

Kamala

Killer Khan

Dynamite Wars 1985: 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Dory Funk Jr.

Terry Funk

Kabuki

Harley Race

Killer Khan

Marty Jannetty

Miguel Perez Jr.

Stan Hansen

Ted Dibiase

Tim Brooks

Tim Horner

Tiger Jeet Singh

AJPW World Champion Carnival: 10/4 -10/31

Billy Robinson

Chavo Guerrero

Dory Funk Jr.

Terry Funk

Kabuki

Killer Khan

Ric Flair

Rick Martel

Road Warrior Animal

Road Warrior Hawk

Terry Gordy

New Wave in Japan 1985: 11/1/85 - 11/7/85

Kamala

Killer Khan

Terry Gordy

Real World Tag League: 11/23/85 -12/12/85

Curt Hennig

Davey Boy Smith

Dynamite Kid

Dory Funk Jr.

Harley Race

Jesse Barr

Nick Bockwinkel

Stan Hansen

Ted Dibiase

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The Following Gaijins should be on a tour for AJPW IN 1985.

 

Brazo De Oro , Brazo De Plata , Ben Bassarab , Curt Hennig , Davey Boy Smith , The Destroyer , Dick Slater , Dynamite Kid , Giant Haystacks , Jerry Lawler , Jesse Barr , Jimmy Valiant , Killer Kahn , Marty Jannetty , Miguel Perez Jr. , Nick Bockwinkel , Perro Aguayo , Ron Bass , Stan Hansen , Steve Regal , Ted Dibiase , Texas Red (Cousin Luke) , Tim Horner

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'85 Gekitoh!! Exciting Wars: 1985/02/22 - 03/14

Bruiser Brody
Harley Race [partial]
Chavo Guerrero
Klaus Wallas
Killer Tim Brooks
T.G. Stone
Road Warriors: Hawk & (w/ Paul Ellering) [03/08 - 03/14]

http://www.puroresu....8502excite.html

'85 World Champion Carnival: 1985/10/04 - 10/31 & New Wave in Japan (Japan Pro Wrestling) : 1985/11/01 - 11/07

Terry Gordy [both series]
Bill Robinson [World Champion Carnival]
Chavo Guerrero [World Champion Carnival]
Art Crews [World Champion Carnival]
Ric Flair [10/18 - 10/23]
Rick Martel [10/18 - 10/24]
Road Warriors: Hawk & (w/ Paul Ellering) [10/18 - 10/31]
Dory Funk Jr. [10/04 - 10/25]
Terry Funk [10/04 - 10/25]
Mil Mascaras [10/04 - 10/25]
Giant Kimala [New Wave]
King Cobra [New Wave]

http://www.puroresu....98510world.html

We are going to try and follow this schedule as much as possible. I see some names on your list not on here. You will have to work with the individuals who have rights to these guys in order to set up dates outside of the Japanese tours.

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ALL JAPAN PRO WRESTLING

'85 Gekitoh!! Exciting Wars: 1985/02/22 - 03/14

Bruiser Brody

Harley Race [partial]

Chavo Guerrero

Klaus Wallas

Killer Tim Brooks

T.G. Stone

Road Warriors: Hawk & (w/ Paul Ellering) [03/08 - 03/14]

http://www.puroresu....8502excite.html

'85 World Champion Carnival: 1985/10/04 - 10/31 & New Wave in Japan (Japan Pro Wrestling) : 1985/11/01 - 11/07

Terry Gordy [both series]

Bill Robinson [World Champion Carnival]

Chavo Guerrero [World Champion Carnival]

Art Crews [World Champion Carnival]

Ric Flair [10/18 - 10/23]

Rick Martel [10/18 - 10/24]

Road Warriors: Hawk & (w/ Paul Ellering) [10/18 - 10/31]

Dory Funk Jr. [10/04 - 10/25]

Terry Funk [10/04 - 10/25]

Mil Mascaras [10/04 - 10/25]

Giant Kimala [New Wave]

King Cobra [New Wave]

http://www.puroresu....98510world.html

We are going to try and follow this schedule as much as possible. I see some names on your list not on here. You will have to work with the individuals who have rights to these guys in order to set up dates outside of the Japanese tours.

 

Here is the proper tours for All Japan in 1985:

Gekitoh All Stars: 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Gekitoh Exciting Wars: 2/22/85 - 3/14/85

Violence! Super Power Wars: 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Big Lariat Festival: 5/10/85 - 5/16/85

Gekishin Thunder Wars: 5/17/85 - 6/13/85

Heat Wave Summer Action Wars: 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Summer Dream Festival: 8/2/85 - 8/8/85

Dynamite Wars 1985: 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

AJPW World Champion Carnival: 10/4 -10/31

New Wave in Japan 1985: 11/1/85 - 11/7/85

Real World Tag League: 11/23/85 -12/12/85

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Here is the list of wrestlers that will be needed for the tours. I'll add the dates as I go.

 

Ben Bassarab 5/10/85 - 6/13/85

Billy Robinson 10/4/85 - 10/24/85

Bob Brown 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Brazo de Oro 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Brazo de plata 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Bruiser Brody 2/22/85 - 3/14/85

Chavo Guerrero 2/22/85 - 3/14/85 , 10/11/85 - 10/31/85

Texas Red (Cousin Luke) 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Curt Hennig 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Davey Boy Smith 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/10/85

Dick Slater 4/8/85 - 4/25/85

Dory Funk 8/23/85 - 8/30/85 , 10/4/85 - 10/25/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Dynamite Kid 1/2/85 -2/5/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Giant Haystacks 1/2/85 - 1/28/85

Kabuki 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 9/1/85 - 9/19/85 , 10/11/85 - 10/31/85

Harley Race 3/1/85 - 3/9/85 , 7/18/85 - 7/31/85 , 9/6/85 - 9/19/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Gypsy Joe 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Jerry Blackwell 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Jerry Lawler 1/30/85 - 2/5/85

Jesse Barr 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Jimmy Valiant 1/30/85 - 2/5/85

Kamala 8/2/85 - 8/8/85 , 11/1/85 - 11/7/85

Killer Khan 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 2/21/85 - 3/14/85 , 3/29/85 - 4/25/85 , 5/10/85 - 6/4/85 , 6/28/85 - 8/8/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/19/85 , 10/4/85 - 11/7/85

Marty Jannetty 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Miguel Perez Jr. 8/23/85 - 9/18/85

Nick Bockwinkel 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Ric Flair 4/23/85 - 4/25/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/24/85

Rick Martel 10/19/85 - 10/24/85

Animal & Hawk 3/8/85 - 3/14/85 , 5/31/85 - 6/13/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/31/15

Ron Bass 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Stan Hansen 3/29/85 - 4/25/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 6/28/85 - 7/31/85 , 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Steve Regal 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Ted Dibiase 4/6/85 - 4/25/85 , 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Terry Funk 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/25/85

Terry Gordy 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 10/4/85 - 11/7/85

Tim Brooks 2/22/85 - 3/14/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Tim Horner 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Tiger Jeet Singh 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/7/85

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The dates need to be up front so we can plan around them... no one will send people on a whim... if they are scheduled and we have it down we will work from there. It isn't a complex system, just takes a little work to get set up. You've got 19 days to get it put together so we can plan around it.

 

What do you mean about up front?

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Here is the list of wrestlers that will be needed for the tours. I'll add the dates as I go.

 

Ben Bassarab 5/10/85 - 6/13/85

Billy Robinson 10/4/85 - 10/24/85

Bob Brown 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Brazo de Oro 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Brazo de plata 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Bruiser Brody 2/22/85 - 3/14/85

Chavo Guerrero 2/22/85 - 3/14/85 , 10/11/85 - 10/31/85

Texas Red (Cousin Luke) 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Curt Hennig 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Davey Boy Smith 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/10/85

Dick Slater 4/8/85 - 4/25/85

Dory Funk 8/23/85 - 8/30/85 , 10/4/85 - 10/25/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Dynamite Kid 1/2/85 -2/5/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Giant Haystacks 1/2/85 - 1/28/85

Kabuki 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 9/1/85 - 9/19/85 , 10/11/85 - 10/31/85

Harley Race 3/1/85 - 3/9/85 , 7/18/85 - 7/31/85 , 9/6/85 - 9/19/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Gypsy Joe 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Jerry Blackwell 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Jerry Lawler 1/30/85 - 2/5/85

Jesse Barr 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Jimmy Valiant 1/30/85 - 2/5/85

Kamala 8/2/85 - 8/8/85 , 11/1/85 - 11/7/85

Killer Khan 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 2/21/85 - 3/14/85 , 3/29/85 - 4/25/85 , 5/10/85 - 6/4/85 , 6/28/85 - 8/8/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/19/85 , 10/4/85 - 11/7/85

Marty Jannetty 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Miguel Perez Jr. 8/23/85 - 9/18/85

Nick Bockwinkel 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Ric Flair 4/23/85 - 4/25/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/24/85

Rick Martel 10/19/85 - 10/24/85

Animal & Hawk 3/8/85 - 3/14/85 , 5/31/85 - 6/13/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/31/15

Ron Bass 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Stan Hansen 3/29/85 - 4/25/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 6/28/85 - 7/31/85 , 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Steve Regal 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Ted Dibiase 4/6/85 - 4/25/85 , 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Terry Funk 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/25/85

Terry Gordy 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 10/4/85 - 11/7/85

Tim Brooks 2/22/85 - 3/14/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Tim Horner 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Tiger Jeet Singh 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/7/85

 

Now that all the dates have been put "up front" for everyone... double check them on your end and put them in your calendars. I will try and go through this and do it by tour date to clean up the presentation in the initial post, but we will work from this list.

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Here is the list of wrestlers that will be needed for the tours. I'll add the dates as I go.

 

Ben Bassarab 5/10/85 - 6/13/85

Billy Robinson 10/4/85 - 10/24/85

Bob Brown 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Brazo de Oro 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Brazo de plata 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Bruiser Brody 2/22/85 - 3/14/85

Chavo Guerrero 2/22/85 - 3/14/85 , 10/11/85 - 10/31/85

Texas Red (Cousin Luke) 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Curt Hennig 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Davey Boy Smith 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/10/85

Dick Slater 4/8/85 - 4/25/85

Dory Funk 8/23/85 - 8/30/85 , 10/4/85 - 10/25/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Dynamite Kid 1/2/85 -2/5/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Giant Haystacks 1/2/85 - 1/28/85

Kabuki 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 9/1/85 - 9/19/85 , 10/11/85 - 10/31/85

Harley Race 3/1/85 - 3/9/85 , 7/18/85 - 7/31/85 , 9/6/85 - 9/19/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Gypsy Joe 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Jerry Blackwell 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Jerry Lawler 1/30/85 - 2/5/85

Jesse Barr 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Jimmy Valiant 1/30/85 - 2/5/85

Kamala 8/2/85 - 8/8/85 , 11/1/85 - 11/7/85

Killer Khan 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 2/21/85 - 3/14/85 , 3/29/85 - 4/25/85 , 5/10/85 - 6/4/85 , 6/28/85 - 8/8/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/19/85 , 10/4/85 - 11/7/85

Marty Jannetty 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Miguel Perez Jr. 8/23/85 - 9/18/85

Nick Bockwinkel 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Ric Flair 4/23/85 - 4/25/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/24/85

Rick Martel 10/19/85 - 10/24/85

Animal & Hawk 3/8/85 - 3/14/85 , 5/31/85 - 6/13/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/31/15

Ron Bass 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Stan Hansen 3/29/85 - 4/25/85 , 5/10/85 - 5/16/85 , 6/28/85 - 7/31/85 , 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Steve Regal 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Ted Dibiase 4/6/85 - 4/25/85 , 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 11/23/85 - 12/12/85

Terry Funk 8/23/85 - 8/31/85 , 10/19/85 - 10/25/85

Terry Gordy 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 10/4/85 - 11/7/85

Tim Brooks 2/22/85 - 3/14/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Tim Horner 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Tiger Jeet Singh 1/2/85 - 2/5/85 , 5/17/85 - 6/13/85 , 8/23/85 - 9/7/85

 

Now that all the dates have been put "up front" for everyone... double check them on your end and put them in your calendars. I will try and go through this and do it by tour date to clean up the presentation in the initial post, but we will work from this list.

 

 

I go into the hospital tomorrow for a major operation, but if I have time today (son is home sick), I'll try and put each wrestler if the proper tour.

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Here is the proper tours for All Japan in 1985. Not all wrestlers work the entire tour. The dates that are Bolded ​that are next to each wrestlers name is the dates they worked.

 

Gekitoh All Stars: 1/2/85 - 2/5/85

Brazo de Oro

Brazo de Plata

Davey Boy Smith

Dynamite Kid

Giant Haystacks 1/2 - 1/28

Kabuki

Gypsy Joe

Jerry Lawler 1/30 - 2/5

Jimmy Valiant 1/30 - 2/5

Killer Khan

Tiger Jeet Singh

 

Gekitoh Exciting Wars: 2/22/85 - 3/14/85

Bruiser Brody

Chavo Guerrero

Harley Race 3/1 - 3/8

Killer Khan

Road Warrior Animal 3/8 - 3/14

Road Warrior Hawk 3/8 - 3/14

Tim Brooks

 

Violence! Super Power Wars: 3/29/85 - 4/25/85

Bob Brown

Dick Slater 4/8 - 4/25

Killer Khan

Ric Flair 4/23 - 4/25

Ron Bass

Stan Hansen

Ted Dibiase 4/6 - 4/25

 

Big Lariat Festival: 5/10/85 - 5/16/85

Ben Bassarab

Davey Boy Smith

Dynamite Kid

Killer Khan

Stan Hansen

 

Gekishin Thunder Wars: 5/17/85 - 6/13/85

Ben Bassarab

Davey Boy Smith

Dynamite Kid

Killer Khan 5/17 - 6/4

Road Warrior Animal 5/31 - 6/13

Road Warrior Hawk 5/31 - 6/13

Terry Gordy

Tiger Jeet Singh

 

Heat Wave Summer Action Wars: 6/28/85 - 7/31/85

Texas Red (Cousin Luke)

Harley Race 7/18 - 7/31

Gypsy Joe

Jerry Blackwell

Killer Khan

Stan Hansen

Steve Regal

 

Summer Dream Festival: 8/2/85 - 8/8/85

Kamala

Killer Khan

 

Dynamite Wars 1985: 8/23/85 - 9/19/85

Dory Funk Jr. 8/23 - 8/30

Terry Funk 8/23 - 8/30

Kabuki 9/1 - 9/19

Harley Race 9/6 - 9/19

Killer Khan

Marty Jannetty

Miguel Perez Jr.

​Stan Hansen 8/23 - 8/31

Ted Dibiase 8/23 - 8/31

Tim Brooks

Tim Horner

Tiger Jeet Singh 8/23 - 9/7

 

AJPW World Champion Carnival: 10/4 -10/31

Billy Robinson 10/4 - 10/24

Chavo Guerrero 10/11 - 10/31

Dory Funk Jr. 10/4/ - 10/25

Terry Funk 10/19 - 10/25

Kabuki 10/11 - 10/31

Killer Khan

Ric Flair 10/9 - 10/14

Rick Martel 10/9 - 10/14

Road Warrior Animal 10/19 - 10/31

Road Warrior Hawk 10/19 - 10/31

Terry Gordy

 

New Wave in Japan 1985: 11/1/85 - 11/7/85

Kamala

Killer Khan

Terry Gordy

 

Real World Tag League: 11/23/85 -12/12/85

Curt Hennig

Davey Boy Smith 11/23 - 12/10

Dynamite Kid

Dory Funk Jr.

Harley Race

Jesse Barr

Nick Bockwinkel

Stan Hansen

Ted Dibiase

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Is it really necessary to have all of the tour dates in our imaginary universe line up precisely with what happened in "the real world" universe in 1985? I'm thinking that now that we have in-this-universe AJPW and NJPW being booked by actual human beings, it might be more fun to just negotiate tour dates between promoters. The danger, of course, is that people might refuse to allow their top guys to go to Japan at all, but from what I have seen everyone here seems pretty good about working together.

 

Having top gaijin workers on our cards is very important for the Japanese promotions, obviously. New Japan's booking in 1985 was absolutely dependent on it.

 

But...

 

My feeling is that this is a different world from what really happened in 1985. To just copy what happened then seems less creative to me than working out our own ideas.

 

I'm open to whatever works best for everyone else, though.

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Is it really necessary to have all of the tour dates in our imaginary universe line up precisely with what happened in "the real world" universe in 1985? I'm thinking that now that we have in-this-universe AJPW and NJPW being booked by actual human beings, it might be more fun to just negotiate tour dates between promoters. The danger, of course, is that people might refuse to allow their top guys to go to Japan at all, but from what I have seen everyone here seems pretty good about working together.

 

Having top gaijin workers on our cards is very important for the Japanese promotions, obviously. New Japan's booking in 1985 was absolutely dependent on it.

 

But...

 

My feeling is that this is a different world from what really happened in 1985. To just copy what happened then seems less creative to me than working out our own ideas.

 

I'm open to whatever works best for everyone else, though.

 

 

I honestly think it is going to be up to the promoters in the US. I think we put it to a vote and then we base it off that.

 

I know me personally, I have booked myself around having the Bulldogs and Hogan gone for periods of time so I will try to stay strict with it... but I think that we have some discussion that needs to happen and I will open a thread on it in just a moment and we will figure it out from there.

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