Microstatistics Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Is HHH watching Volk Han in his spare time? What was that leg hold at the end? Surprised he didn't just do a figure four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricR Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 The 5 minute cruiser tag was awesome. Maybe Nese's best WWE showing, but the timing of everybody was on point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 All I've seen of Raw was that Braun smashing Roman on the ramp gif, and I give that 5 stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Roman pretty much saying that HBK should back the fuck up with his pep talk because he lost TWICE to Taker and got his ass retired was so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Triple H having to get his heat back was annoying but expected. WWE should probably be more concerned with the fact that Seth Rollins got a very weak pop for his run-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I thought they had actually started to find their way into salvaging Seth Rollins' babyface run and then he got his ass kicked and now he's back to just being some guy who used to be in a hot stable a couple years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Triple H having to get his heat back was annoying but expected. WWE should probably be more concerned with the fact that Seth Rollins got a very weak pop for his run-in. I was there. Crowd came unglued. Maybe that didn't translate well to TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 a 20 minute promo with Foley, Steph and Hunter to close the show? man I wonder if the Malenko/Scotty 2 Hotty match taped for Heat was any good? why are they doing a 4 way for Mania? Real issue is between Hunter and Rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 MA. RYSE. OU. ELLET. It was amazing watching her go from Miz having to coach her through the story line by line to "THIS IS A SHOOT BROTHER~!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Miz tv was off the charts great. Great promos all around. And have to admit the AJ beat down on Shane was great. Hey blood on WWE TV!!! Finlay!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 This Randy Orton/Bray Wyatt storyline has devolved into one of the dumbest angles I can remember. Look at the reception Wyatt got during the first show after winning the title, and compare that to the crickets tonight. Whoever wrote this crap should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm hoping that something changed at the last minute, since it's really depressing to consider the long term payoff to the months long Orton-as-a-Wyatt angle was always meant to be "it was just my master plan all along to pretend to be subservient and give up my title shot for no reason then burn your house down". Because that was like some shit you see when the writer of a comic book gets fired/quits mid story arc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Are you actually watching the shows or just reading some Scott Keith style "I hate everything" reviews and commenting on the shows off of that? Because they've done a pretty good job of stating the Orton joined The Wyatts because he couldn't beat them on his own, took them down from the inside by splitting up Harper & Bray, then fake gave up the title shot as the last bit of gaining Bray's confidence to get the "keys to the kingdom" which allowed him to burn down the shack which was the "source" of whatever stupid powers Bray has that people pretend make him cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I am actually watching the shows, and them going from "I will never face you for the title" to "sike, it was just part of my evil plan" in like a week came off (to me) as them realizing they had less time to get to the end than they realized. I mean for those of us who knew that was the scheduled WM match it was fine, but I'd imagine it was a hard out of nowhere turn for those who don't follow the insider news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thread Killer Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 My main objection is to the whole stupid "burning down the barn to destroy the burial place of Sister Abagail" crap. And now Wyatt thinks he's a god, or something. On tonight's Smackdown, on one segment we had Miz and his wife taking shots at Cena and his girlfriend for backstage/insider reasons (which was extremely well done, for what it's worth - and I hate The Miz) but then a couple of segments later we have something straight out of the mid nineties Undertaker storybook. I was having the "Origin of Kane" flashbacks. It's not well written, it's not compelling, it doesn't make me want to see Orton vs. Wyatt more. It's just plain old stupid and makes me want to change the channel. Which next time it's on, I probably will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Triple H having to get his heat back was annoying but expected. WWE should probably be more concerned with the fact that Seth Rollins got a very weak pop for his run-in. I was there. Crowd came unglued. Maybe that didn't translate well to TV. It totally came through on TV. Some dum dums are just purposely obtuse to fit their verkackta agendas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 And Orton joining the Wyatts to destroy them from within was so fucking obvious from the get go that I thought it was almost too blatant . Ray Charles saw that coming and he's blind AND dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 My main objection is to the whole stupid "burning down the barn to destroy the burial place of Sister Abagail" crap. And now Wyatt thinks he's a god, or something. On tonight's Smackdown, on one segment we had Miz and his wife taking shots at Cena and his girlfriend for backstage/insider reasons (which was extremely well done, for what it's worth - and I hate The Miz) but then a couple of segments later we have something straight out of the mid nineties Undertaker storybook. I was having the "Origin of Kane" flashbacks. It's not well written, it's not compelling, it doesn't make me want to see Orton vs. Wyatt more. It's just plain old stupid and makes me want to change the channel. Which next time it's on, I probably will. The problem is that Bray's character is fucking dumb. Without a stable around him to hide his own deficiencies he has nothing. They should have taken this as an opportunity to humanize him and stop the stupid "supernatural" shit but seems like they've gone the other way with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 My main issue with the angle was that Orton gave up his title shot, did other stuff, and then assumed that blowing up someone's house would magically get him that shot back because reasons. ...and he was right. And Seth was definitely over as a face when he came out here...which is what made it all the more hilarious that Hunter couldn't let him actually be over for FIVE SECONDS before he turned around and beat the shit out of him again like he was a fucking dork. I mean, literally ANY heel in human history, if the babyface makes a triumphant surprise return, makes the big reveal that he's healed, goes in and cleans house on said heel...ANY OTHER HEEL would just take it. Run away, head to the back. That's the whole fucking point of being the heel, to take the ass kicking. But not THE ALMIGHTY HUNTOR, he just gets straight back in the ring and beats the shit out of the face. Fucking howled. I'm also really looking forward to Mick Foley vs Steph at Wrestlemania. I mean, that's what ALLLLLLLLLL this time and effort and build is all leading to, right? Something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Maybe Foley can bring in Maria Menounos to face her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 My main issue with the angle was that Orton gave up his title shot, did other stuff, and then assumed that blowing up someone's house would magically get him that shot back because reasons. ...and he was right. And Seth was definitely over as a face when he came out here...which is what made it all the more hilarious that Hunter couldn't let him actually be over for FIVE SECONDS before he turned around and beat the shit out of him again like he was a fucking dork. I mean, literally ANY heel in human history, if the babyface makes a triumphant surprise return, makes the big reveal that he's healed, goes in and cleans house on said heel...ANY OTHER HEEL would just take it. Run away, head to the back. That's the whole fucking point of being the heel, to take the ass kicking. But not THE ALMIGHTY HUNTOR, he just gets straight back in the ring and beats the shit out of the face. Fucking howled. I'm also really looking forward to Mick Foley vs Steph at Wrestlemania. I mean, that's what ALLLLLLLLLL this time and effort and build is all leading to, right? Something? It's not like they couldn't have just done Hunter getting his heat back next week either. And Seth is meant to be one of his guys. Imagine what he'd be like working someone he doesn't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 My main issue with the angle was that Orton gave up his title shot, did other stuff, and then assumed that blowing up someone's house would magically get him that shot back because reasons. ...and he was right. And Seth was definitely over as a face when he came out here...which is what made it all the more hilarious that Hunter couldn't let him actually be over for FIVE SECONDS before he turned around and beat the shit out of him again like he was a fucking dork. I mean, literally ANY heel in human history, if the babyface makes a triumphant surprise return, makes the big reveal that he's healed, goes in and cleans house on said heel...ANY OTHER HEEL would just take it. Run away, head to the back. That's the whole fucking point of being the heel, to take the ass kicking. But not THE ALMIGHTY HUNTOR, he just gets straight back in the ring and beats the shit out of the face. Fucking howled. I'm also really looking forward to Mick Foley vs Steph at Wrestlemania. I mean, that's what ALLLLLLLLLL this time and effort and build is all leading to, right? Something? It's not like they couldn't have just done Hunter getting his heat back next week either. And Seth is meant to be one of his guys. Imagine what he'd be like working someone he doesn't like. You mean like doing crotch chops to get the crowd to cheer him while he was supposed to be the heel in the feud with Roman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 And Orton joining the Wyatts to destroy them from within was so fucking obvious from the get go that I thought it was almost too blatant . Ray Charles saw that coming and he's blind AND dead. Yeah. My main issues with it are: You can't have this type of stupid ass angle on the same show where Shane/AJ an Miz/Cena are these 4th wall leaning angles. And you DEFINITELY can't make this the defacto most important feud of the show and allegedly WM. Turning this into a title feud is so wtf I literally can't even comprehend the thought that went into it. It'd be like turning Jake/Rude or Jake/Martel into a title feud. Because in the end, once you make it a title match, it's about the title more than the angle that led to it, so those months put into this out of time angle now become all about the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Goofy shit aside, you could almost make this work if Orton and Wyatt were seen as equals. Orton feels so above Wyatt it's ridiculous. I wish this was used as a vehicle to make a star out of Harper but I'm afraid he's going to get lost. "If you can't beat them, join them" is another classic wrestling angle, but didn't Orton humble The Wyatts at every opportunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 That's another issue, I could never buy Orton as subservient to Bray since he's been portrayed as a top level guy almost since day one and Wyatt's been beaten by everyone and lucked into the title thanks to a gimmick match. The other builds have been so much better it just makes the ridiculousness stand out even more. As much as I have zero need to see another Shane WM spotfest, the build up for it has been fantastic. Miz and Maryse dropping truth bombs while Cena/Nikki can only respond with variations of "NO, U" has been fantastic, Bryan's promo on how he wants to punch Miz in the face for constantly trolling him by shittily copying his moveset was fantastic, and then you have Randy out there saying he's taken Bray's magic powers away by burning the remains of his long dead sister. Every time he does a promo all I hear is "One of These Things Is Not Like the Other". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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