Cornette's racket Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Not one I saw obviously but if we are going all time, it would have to be Ivan kolloff beating Bruno. The ref didn't even give Ivan the belt in the ring for fear of a riot. I mean to read and listen to people who were wwwf(in old money) fans at the time, you'd swear a family member died that night in the garden. I mean Bruno was and still is a legend of pro wrestling in the north eastern United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteF3 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Wasn't it Scott Hall and Curt Hennig who won the AWA tag titles via countout? Apparently all these years later it was a phantom change to cover for someone leaving the promotion but I remember even the Apter Mags at the time going "uhhh, okay" at that one. They lost the titles by countout, to Rose & Somers, but the match aired on TV. The announcers didn't even attempt to explain why the titles changed, they treated it like it was a matter of routine. (Well, it was in Memphis, and outside the U.S. and Canada, but in the AWA...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shatter_Machine Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Big one for me was The Iron Sheik beating Bob Backlund. Bob had been champion for so long, nobody thought he'd lose the belt to the Sheik. Another one for me was Lex Luger and Barry Windham losing the NWA Tag Titles back to Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard when Windham turned on Luger. In retrospect, you can see it coming a mile away, but in 1988 I was totally stunned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Otto Wanz winning the AWA title from Nick Bockwinkel. That one won't be topped in my head ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Luger beating Hogan for the title on Nitro. To me and I think most fans it was a foregone conclusion as early as August 97' that Sting was going to be the guy to take the title off of Hollywood, so, Luger winning it on an episode of Nitro was a huge shocker. Now, Luger's victory telegraphed that Hogan would get the belt back on PPV - but it doesn't take away from the shock of Luger getting the belt even for 6 days or whatever it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Wasn't it Scott Hall and Curt Hennig who won the AWA tag titles via countout? Apparently all these years later it was a phantom change to cover for someone leaving the promotion but I remember even the Apter Mags at the time going "uhhh, okay" at that one. You're possibly thinking of their title win over Regal & Garvin that was, for years, thought to be a phantom change. It was listed as being something like 57 minutes long or something. But a few years ago proof of the card and change were turned up (don't ask me what the proof was - KHawk would remember). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Wasn't it Scott Hall and Curt Hennig who won the AWA tag titles via countout? Apparently all these years later it was a phantom change to cover for someone leaving the promotion but I remember even the Apter Mags at the time going "uhhh, okay" at that one. Actually, they lost the titles by countout, to Buddy Rose and Doug Somers. For my own pick: David Arquette. Need I say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Wasn't it Scott Hall and Curt Hennig who won the AWA tag titles via countout? Apparently all these years later it was a phantom change to cover for someone leaving the promotion but I remember even the Apter Mags at the time going "uhhh, okay" at that one. You're possibly thinking of their title win over Regal & Garvin that was, for years, thought to be a phantom change. It was listed as being something like 57 minutes long or something. But a few years ago proof of the card and change were turned up (don't ask me what the proof was - KHawk would remember). There's a thread about it on the old KM board. I don't remember all the details but evidence was presented that it was an actual match in Alberquerque, NM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Not sure if others will share (or care about) this one, but Chris Sabin winning the TNA belt in 2013 felt random as hell. It seemed like TNA has finally pulled something good out of Aces & 8s with Bully's run, and then out of nowhere they derailed it for Sabin, of all people. That was just terrible. The year before when Austin Aries cashed in the X title for a shot at the heavyweight championship, it was a great story. Sabin doing it was meh at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Not sure if others will share (or care about) this one, but Chris Sabin winning the TNA belt in 2013 felt random as hell. It seemed like TNA has finally pulled something good out of Aces & 8s with Bully's run, and then out of nowhere they derailed it for Sabin, of all people. That was just terrible. The year before when Austin Aries cashed in the X title for a shot at the heavyweight championship, it was a great story. Sabin doing it was meh at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topropepodcast Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Not sure if others will share (or care about) this one, but Chris Sabin winning the TNA belt in 2013 felt random as hell. It seemed like TNA has finally pulled something good out of Aces & 8s with Bully's run, and then out of nowhere they derailed it for Sabin, of all people. That was just terrible. The year before when Austin Aries cashed in the X title for a shot at the heavyweight championship, it was a great story. Sabin doing it was meh at best. My feeling as someone who watched at the time was they were trying for Bully vs. Hogan, so they took the title off so they could do the AJ BFG win. Then when Hogan couldn't get cleared, they had to quickly put the belt back on Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrzfn Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Too bad too, they had actually done a great job of building up Bully/Hogan. Even bearing that in mind, Sabin was a totally random choice and it really messed up their momentum coming off a strong 2012 and a solid 2013 up to that point. They could have easily switched to straight to AJ prior to BFG and then run him against Magnus or whoever in the main event. Not that THAT turned out very well either when it went down later. That Sabin win actually marked the beginning of a really messy time for TNA and for the title that I don't think they fully corrected until Lashley got the belt, and even that was a mess at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Wasn't it Scott Hall and Curt Hennig who won the AWA tag titles via countout? Apparently all these years later it was a phantom change to cover for someone leaving the promotion but I remember even the Apter Mags at the time going "uhhh, okay" at that one. You're possibly thinking of their title win over Regal & Garvin that was, for years, thought to be a phantom change. It was listed as being something like 57 minutes long or something. But a few years ago proof of the card and change were turned up (don't ask me what the proof was - KHawk would remember). There's a thread about it on the old KM board. I don't remember all the details but evidence was presented that it was an actual match in Alberquerque, NM. Funny, my brain probably mashed several swaps together, since Garvin and Regal beating the RWs was a shocking moment, and the count out change was so puzzling to me how the AWA was all "well of course that's always been a thing we do it just never happened before". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Hogan coming into Wrestlemania 9 and taking the belt off that dastardly Yokozuna & Fuji. A nice pop from the crowd cheering Hogan on to take the title. Greatest Wrestlemania moment ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted June 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Just wanted to thank everybody for the contributions - the show looking at the Most Shocking Title Changes in History is now available at the following link: https://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/download/tuknpb/SCG_Radio_120_-_Most_Shocking_Title_Changes_In_History.mp3 Join us as we discuss the most shocking title changes of all time! Taking your nominations, we look at some of the most jarring moments in wrestling history, and analyse the execution and follow-up of title changes such as Bret Hart beating Ric Flair, Chris Jericho becoming Undisputed Champion, Big Show beating Brock Lesnar at Survivor Series 2002, Shawn Michaels winning the World Title on the same show, Sheamus dethroning John Cena at TLC, the title victories of David Arquette, Vince McMahon and Vince Russo, Jinder Mahal and JBL's rapid ascensions to the top, the Honky Tonk Man defeating Ricky Steamboat, the incident on The Main Event with Hogan and Andre, Edge cashing in Money in the Bank, the Summers Of Punk, and many many more. A really fun show this week, check it out and let us know what you think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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