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Any contenders for WWF Greatest Match Ever between WrestleMania 3 and WrestleMania 10?


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#21 El-P

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:13 AM

On the night it was, but it hasn't stood the test of time and has aged since the Hardy's, Edge and Christian and the Dudley's raised the bar. 

 

They have raised the bar on stupid-as-fuck exhibition stunt shows with people climbing ladders just to fall down through tables. As a pro-wrestling match with a gimmick, Razor vs Michaels remains a classic.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:22 AM

I think the summerslam rematch has remained the stronger of the two Shawn's and Razor's ladder matches.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:28 AM


I haven't seen it in years but for something which is not really a WWF match at all, how does Adonis/Murdoch vs the Briscos hold up?

 
It's been a few years but I remember quite enjoying it.
 
Adonis and Backlund have a really, really great Lumberjack Match at the March 1982 Capital Centre show that I remember catching me completely by surprise.

That match is awesome. They also have an under the radar really good match from 3/82 Philly

#24 JerryvonKramer

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:21 PM

Steamboat vs. Bob Orton Jr. is pretty special.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:55 PM

Steamboat vs. Bob Orton Jr. is pretty special.

 

Man... that brings back a bizarrely specific memory:

 

One of my wrestling fiends had a collection of Colosseum Home Videos. There was a match, and I am 90 per cent sure it was Steamboat vs Orton, that was on two different volumes of The Best of the WWF. I remember we were discussing if maybe it was an example of a "formula match" where two guys work basically the same match around the circuit...  but then we cued them up and watched them back to back and it quickly became apparent that it was in fact the exact same match in the same building with the same fans... 

 

That stands out in my memory more than the match itself, though I am sure it's a good one. I'm assuming it's the same on you mean. 

 

I wonder how many other matches made more than one Colosseum tape. 



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:34 PM


 


Well? I was thinking about this WWF narrative lately. 
 
Also, were there any WWF matches prior that topped Savage-Steamboat?
 
And how long did Michaels-Razor stand atop the pole?

Michaels-Razor wasn't even the best match that night.
 
On the night it was, but it hasn't stood the test of time and has aged since the Hardy's, Edge and Christian and the Dudley's raised the bar. 

Completely disagree. Ladder matches are like action films. Fun at the moment but hardly hold up.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:45 PM

I remember really loving The Rockers Vs. The Orient Express from Royal Rumble 1991.



#28 ragemaster

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:50 PM

 

 

 

Well? I was thinking about this WWF narrative lately. 
 
Also, were there any WWF matches prior that topped Savage-Steamboat?
 
And how long did Michaels-Razor stand atop the pole?

Michaels-Razor wasn't even the best match that night.
 
On the night it was, but it hasn't stood the test of time and has aged since the Hardy's, Edge and Christian and the Dudley's raised the bar. 

Completely disagree. Ladder matches are like action films. Fun at the moment but hardly hold up.

 

Not sure what point your making, sounds like your agreeing with me. 



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:37 PM

Bret vs. Davey Boy SS92 is my pick. Incredible Bret performance playing the subtle heel vs. the hometown boy. Bret vs. Savage SNME 87 is excellent too. Also agree with the comments that Bret/Owen > Shawn/Razor. Shawn vs. Razor is a great match but Bret vs. Owen is one of the best matches of all time and my #2 US match ever.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:50 PM

 

 

 

 

Well? I was thinking about this WWF narrative lately. 
 
Also, were there any WWF matches prior that topped Savage-Steamboat?
 
And how long did Michaels-Razor stand atop the pole?

Michaels-Razor wasn't even the best match that night.
 
On the night it was, but it hasn't stood the test of time and has aged since the Hardy's, Edge and Christian and the Dudley's raised the bar. 

Completely disagree. Ladder matches are like action films. Fun at the moment but hardly hold up.

 

Not sure what point your making, sounds like your agreeing with me. 

 

No. Bret-Owen was better that night and every day since.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:56 PM

I haven't seen it in years but for something which is not really a WWF match at all, how does Adonis/Murdoch vs the Briscos hold up?

 

Very good match (*** 1/2 ish if you want to talk star rating wise) but almost entirely thanks to Murdoch.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:39 PM

Ramon/Michaels I was great because it maintains a face/heel dynamic. Spotfests are fun, but you don't get emotionally invested because there's no rooting interest.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:58 PM

More people are going to remember the ladder match since it was the first one anyone ever saw unless they grew up watching Stampede. That will make it stand out in one's memory more than Bret/Owen which is the better match by practically any standard. 



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:30 PM

Ramon/Michaels I was great because it maintains a face/heel dynamic. Spotfests are fun, but you don't get emotionally invested because there's no rooting interest.

 

Also they incorporated the ladder into their match instead of building it around ladder spots. The best description of the match I have read was that it is a match with a ladder rather than a ladder match.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:57 PM

Yeah, I think the real point to is that Shawn and Razor would have had a great match without the ladder. You really can't say the same for the Hardys and crew.

But choosing between the two perfect matches that happened at ten is like picking a favorite kid. One is the best opener, the other is the best gimmick match in Mania history.

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 04:36 AM

Bret vs Bulldog in SS 1992 for me. Slightly tainted by what I have learnt about Davey going into the match / blown spots etc, but even seeing a still photo of that match makes me feel warm.



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:27 PM

First matches to come to mind were Bret-Hennig SummerSlam 91, Bret-Davey SummerSlam 92, and Bret-Piper WMVIII.  Also Savage-Flair WMVIII and Savage-Warrior WMVII.  Some of the Rockers-Brainbusters matches too maybe.  They tend to blend together with me, but I think they had a really great one on a SNME.

 

I wouldn't say any of those matches are definitively best of that period, but think they all belong in the conversation



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Posted 19 September 2017 - 02:11 AM

Anyone mentioned the big Survivor Series tag match? That one that goes about 40 minutes?

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 08:03 AM

Anyone mentioned the big Survivor Series tag match? That one that goes about 40 minutes?

 

 

Still contend this is one of the more overrated matches in WWF history. I have watched it on some live watches and at other points in the past couple of years and it doesn't top out at ***1/2 for me. Also, one of the dumbest decisions ever by a manager for Fuji to walk out on Demolition for Powers of Pain. 

 

The answer to this question as hypothesized in the original post is Savage vs Warrior. 



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Posted 19 September 2017 - 08:20 AM


Anyone mentioned the big Survivor Series tag match? That one that goes about 40 minutes?

 
 
Still contend this is one of the more overrated matches in WWF history. I have watched it on some live watches and at other points in the past couple of years and it doesn't top out at ***1/2 for me. Also, one of the dumbest decisions ever by a manager for Fuji to walk out on Demolition for Powers of Pain. 
 

Aye, but there's two big long 20-man tag matches, the Fuji flip was 1988 and the generally better-liked match was 1987. I would agree that neither is on the level of the other matches mentioned so far.

And hey, Fuji was regularly portrayed as just plain dumb compared to some of the other managers, so it kind of fit?




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