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#21 goc

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 03:58 AM

Is WWE turning into having a bunch of babies on the roster?

This is a funny response to someone not wanting to do a job considering that for YEARS people online have been saying that wrestlers in WWE need to stand up for themselves and say no more often.

#22 El-P

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:25 AM

Nia is basically a rookie with very average talent at best who has done jackshit in "Da Biz" and who's only where she is because she's big and from the Family. So yeah, if she indeed had an ego booboo because she had to do a job to Sasha Banks, who's been working her ass off and killing herself for a while now, she's a big pussy with an oversize ego. That's not "standing up for yourself". Seriously now, where are Chiggy and Satomura to kick some of these people in the fucking teeth ?



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:53 AM

It wasn't that long ago that nobody said no to anything. Charlotte couldn't bring herself to say no to using her dead brother in an angle. Even Randy Orton couldn't bring himself to say no to taking full-force elbows to the head from Brock Lesnar. Now we've got midcarders who think they're Bruiser Brody.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:56 AM

HBK became one of the biggest stars in history in part due to knowing wins and losses matter and always being adverse to doing jobs.

I would probably say Nia might have overplayed her hand somewhat, being so early in her career and all, but Id never fault someone for doing what they think is best for themselves.

Plus this might work in her favor, as Vince tends to weirdly respect people who tell him no despite putting everyone who works for him in fear of losing their job.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:00 AM

I think this might work in her favor also. It's a weird hill to die on, but I'm also assuming there's more to the story, and I'm all for wrestlers taking more control.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:21 AM

they are doing a 25th anniversary episode of Raw on January 22 from Brooklyn.  I wonder what big names they can get for that show?

 

also Vince wants either Rock or Austin to ref Brock v Jinder (per Meltz)



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 03:19 PM

While I agree Nia isn't really in a position to question doing a job to Sasha, whose fault is that? She was called up from NXT way too early, but she couldn't exactly say no to a better position and presumably more money. Being that she grew up in the family business, she has probably seen other "big" wrestlers like Big Show fail to live up to their potential because they weren't treated like the "giants" they should have been. If Nia is smart enough to avoid that, good on her.



#28 Johnny Sorrow

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 09:09 AM

All that Nia stuff is bullshit. She just wanted to take a breather from the road.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:18 AM

Just gonna leave this here for all to enjoy.

 

https://www.spin.com...d-pixies-cover/

 

Next up - The Bellas take on The Breeders' "Cannonball"? Maybe Daniel Bryan will lend his vocals to a song off Slanted and Enchanted or Bee Thousand?



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 02:08 PM

Y'all are forgetting, Nia is not like most girls.  :lol:



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:05 PM

Nia is basically a rookie with very average talent at best who has done jackshit in "Da Biz" and who's only where she is because she's big and from the Family. So yeah, if she indeed had an ego booboo because she had to do a job to Sasha Banks, who's been working her ass off and killing herself for a while now, she's a big pussy with an oversize ego. That's not "standing up for yourself". Seriously now, where are Chiggy and Satomura to kick some of these people in the fucking teeth ?


Didn't think you'd be in the 'people should suck it up, respect the business and do what Vince says' camp but here we are.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 01:27 AM

Bummer, Nia has been one of my favorite things about WWE the last 6 months. And just like the weird reactions when Low-Ki recently left whatever that fed is called, it's weird that people seem mad that a wrestler made a personal choice because they didn't agree with management. Being a pussy for disagreeing with WWE? What a fucking joke. 



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 02:18 AM

It really has nothing to do with "disagreeing with WWE or Vince" per say (really, doing a job is the basics of pro-wrestling), it's the fact a midcarder (who really is only where she is because she's been a corporate favourite to begin with and not someone who has been on the roads by herself trying to make a living for years) refusing to do a job, in 2017 mind you, is completely ridiculous. Plus, it's kinda insulting toward Sasha Banks. So, Sasha, who has done jobs left and right without complaining seemingly, isn't worthy of you doing your job ?

 

Now, wanna talk about "disagreeing with Vince and WWE" for real ? Let's have someone try to bite into that ridiculous "independant contractor" bullshit, now this would be interesting.

 

But being pissy about doing a job when you are 2 years and a half in the field ? Yeah, fuck that. Pussy, mark, diva, whatever.

 

Then again, if that's all rumours and she only wanted to get off the grind for a few weeks, well... kinda... wanna talk about the eighti... ok, I'll stop now. It's gonna be way too obvious I don't particulary care for Jaxx at this point.



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 06:16 AM

I don't really understand how you can get so worked up over it; wins and losses should absolutely matter and not even sure what it being 2017 has to do with anything. And if we want to get into discussions about persisting with WWEs road schedule and not complaining about it, I'll side with Nia Jax all day over the side of the dude who wants to run workers into the ground. Just because it's been the norm for years doesn't make it right.



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 06:18 AM

Weekly YouTube roundup:

 

Raw Top 5
1. Monday Night Raw falls under siege by Smackdown - 2.5m views
2. Brock Lesnar sets his sights on the "pretender" - 1.7m
3. Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose & AJ Styles vs. The Miz, Sheamus & Cesaro - 939k
4. Finn Balor vs. Kane - 847k
5. Kane reflects on his Big Red attack on Braun Strowman - 783k

 

Bottom 3
3. Bayley vs. Sasha Banks vs. Alicia Fox - 274k
2. Drew Gulak speaks for WWE Cruiserweight Champion - 180k
1. Jason Jordan vs. Elias - 159k

 

Smackdown Top 5
1. Orton and Zayn battle for spot on Smackdown's team - 1.12m
2. Shane McMahon addresses Smackdown's raid on Raw - 1.11m
3. AJ Styles vs. Sunil Singh - 587k
4. Jinder Mahal responds to Brock Lesnar - 530k
5. Fatal 5-Way Match - Winner Becomes Women's Survivor Series Captain - 455k

 

Bottom 3
3. Can Shane McMahon & Daniel Bryan relax - 186k
2. The Bludgeon Brothers are ready to dish out punishment - 183k
1. Bobby Roode issues a challenge to Dolph Ziggler - 136k



#36 El-P

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 07:15 AM

I don't really understand how you can get so worked up over it; wins and losses should absolutely matter and not even sure what it being 2017 has to do with anything. 

 

I'm absolutely not worked up over it. People bitching about the fact someone made light of Nia for being a puss (if she did refuse to do a job) get worked up about it. ;) So it's kinda fun drilling the point home.

 

Not wanting to do a job on TV in 1985 an not wanting to do a job on TV in 2017 is not exactly the same thing. And really, I guess all of this talk makes Shawn Michaels a great professional in the mid-90's after all... I find it totally juvenile, immature and the sign of having an unwarranted ego, but whatever.

 

And again, it takes two to dance. So, what about the one you refuse to do the job for ? It's a big fuck you to that person, whose been working putting your sad ass over before and taking bumps for making your average offense look deadly. What about that part of the deal ? Funny how the whole thing is twisted into "Good that she stands up for herself against the evil office that wants her to do a job (god forbid)", without taking anything else into consideration. Selfish thinking all the way.



#37 El-P

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 07:18 AM

 I'll side with Nia Jax all day over the side of the dude who wants to run workers into the ground. Just because it's been the norm for years doesn't make it right.

 

That part was obviously sarcastic on my part. But non-usage of smileys makes things difficult sometimes... 



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 07:48 AM

Someone playing a mister gimmick should in no circumstance be doing meaningless jobs on PPV pre-shows and if it turns out that that's the actual reason she's off TV, then fair play to her for recognising her value and asserting it. It would be different if she was refusing to drop a belt or something that has major storyline consequences. In that case she should obviously do business. But she's definitely right to resist doing things that will devalue her for such small gains.

El-P, would your opinion be different if she had, in your mind, 'paid her dues' or was a really good worker? Your previous post suggests that part of your issue is that you just don't like her.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 08:00 AM

Thinking someone isn't a good wrestler is a valid reason to think they shouldn't refuse to do a job.



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 08:12 AM

El-P, would your opinion be different if she had, in your mind, 'paid her dues' or was a really good worker? Your previous post suggests that part of your issue is that you just don't like her.

 

Well, I have nothing against her, the person, obviously. As a worker, I find her to be not very good at her role as I've stated many many times (the comparison with Amazing Kong blasting on TNA in 2007 is murderous). She got her current spot solely because she's from a famous wrestling family and because she's big. So yeah, that makes this kind of selfish behaviour way more grating to me than say, a girl who would have struggled for ten years in indies scrapping for every buck she can make. I mean, good for her that she got the spot, but acting like a prima dona when everything was basically handled to you reeks of Warriorism, if you will.

 

That being said, refusing to do a job when you're basically a midcarder, whether you're the greatest worker ever or a complete tool, just doesn't set well in general, especially in the current form of what pro-wrestling is.

 

Now, for instance, Austin refusing to do a job for Lesnar on free TV when PPV still mattered, that's another kind of case. 






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