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#1 FMKK

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 06:40 PM

Reigns vs Cesaro for the IC title should be a banger.
Kane vs BRAUN for the fucking Rumble title shot less so, especially if they book Kane to win.

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 07:41 PM

I am so confused after being away for 3 months. I guess having new female wrestlers is a good thing, but I know absolute zero things about them, and I literally never saw Sarah Logan before.

 

Wyatt/Hardy feud looks like absolute shite. Good grief.



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Posted 11 December 2017 - 10:17 PM

Wyatt/Hardy feud looks like absolute shite. Good grief.


What?!  What the hell are you talking about?  This Woken Matt Hardy stuff is gold.  Gold, Jerry.  Gold!  I think him working against Wyatt is perfect, since it was obvious that somebody on the WWE writing staff was blatantly stealing stuff from the Broken Universe with the Wyatt Compound and the whole Wyatt/Orton feud.  (In order to cover up the fact that it was a rip-off, they cleverly disguised their thievery by, you know...taking out the parts that were entertaining and good.  But still.)
 
I saw a rumor online today that this is leading to a fight between Bray and Matt at the Wyatt compound.  Can you imagine what that will look like if Matt gets that kind of backdrop for his goofy antics.  We may well see another dilapidated boat.



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Posted 11 December 2017 - 10:29 PM

Looks like Brock v Braun v Kane at the Rumble. This way .Brock can go over without .Braun taking the fall

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:13 AM

 

Wyatt/Hardy feud looks like absolute shite. Good grief.


What?!  What the hell are you talking about?  This Woken Matt Hardy stuff is gold.  Gold, Jerry.  Gold!  I think him working against Wyatt is perfect, since it was obvious that somebody on the WWE writing staff was blatantly stealing stuff from the Broken Universe with the Wyatt Compound and the whole Wyatt/Orton feud.  (In order to cover up the fact that it was a rip-off, they cleverly disguised their thievery by, you know...taking out the parts that were entertaining and good.  But still.)
 
I saw a rumor online today that this is leading to a fight between Bray and Matt at the Wyatt compound.  Can you imagine what that will look like if Matt gets that kind of backdrop for his goofy antics.  We may well see another dilapidated boat.

 

Maybe it's my utter disdain for Wyatt, maybe it's the months of not watching the product, but that did not appeal to me at all. What made the whole Broken Matt saga work for me is the B-movie charm, which is not something I believe WWE can pull off, considering how well produced their segments are, at least in comparison to TNA stuff. But let's see, maybe I just did not paid enough attention.

 

Also, marked out at Romand doing a fucking Magistral cradle. 3 years in a row of being the absolute best performer in the company.



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 03:55 AM

Wyatt/Hardy feud looks like absolute shite. Good grief.

 

 

What did you expect ? Broken Matt was fun because it was unique. It's not anymore, it's been done already and now it's in the hands of WWE writers and production people. Not to mention Woken kinda sounds stupid and trademarky. And then of course they have him feud with the most obvious and blatant shitty guy they can think of, who else but Bray Wyatt of course. It's like those old Taker feuds against shitty monsters he had to work against, because. The Wyatt stuff has consistently brought up the worse feuds and matches of 2017. I expect another chapter in the Wyatt "worst segment/match of the year" with this, complete with WWE redoing poorly what had been done elsewhere. Wait. They already have done that after the original Broken videos with the godawful Orton feud. So it's a redux of a poor copy, with the original guy not being so original anymore.

 

Kane. 2018. What else ?

 

My interest in the Rumble has taken a nosedive already. Give AJ a killer match like last year at least...



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 07:11 AM

The opening angle with Joe & The Bar laying out The Shield was excellent.  Solid mic work from Joe without forcing too much on the stick before getting to the action and heels using numbers to lay out the faces.  This is exactly the type of heat they should build every week as it doesn't have week to week hot-shotting but is a low simmer as they continue to build Roman towards Mania.  I still maintain that Roman needs a proper heel run if he's going to have any chance of getting over as a top face, but using The Shield to lock him in as a babyface right now and this slow build more than works for me even if not for the masses.

 

Still digging how they're positioning Absolution and did a better job this week letting Paige speak briefly rather than give the entire group too much time on the mic.  Less is usually more here.  There were some really rough spots in the match where Mickie came cartoonishly far from connecting with Mandy & Paige.  Not sure who's fault that is and it probably doesn't matter but it stood out.

 

On the other hand, I didn't care for Braun/Kane at all and the prospect of a triple threat at the Rumble isn't remotely interesting.  

 

That's all I've seen thus far, but looking forward to the Rollins/Sheamus and Reigns/Cesaro matches.



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 08:48 AM

Its funny how they had Nia looking like Samoan Bertha Faye for the segment with Enzo but still had her come out with the other women to fight off Absolution.

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 09:15 AM

Meltzer on WOR said the plan is Brock v Braun v Kane at the Rumble for the title as expected after last night



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 09:31 AM

Woke Matt Hardy would be a much better gimmick. Just a socialist dude trying to educate his fellow white man about feminism.



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 03:11 PM

Wyatt/Hardy feud looks like absolute shite. Good grief.

After watching the two Hardy-Wyatt promos from the last two week on Youtube: this whole thing needs King Curtis Iaukea talking (well, shouting rather) about bathing in the river Ganges and climbing the 7th pyramid. Alternatively Señor Benjamin and King Maxel would help as well.



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 03:20 PM

In this post/meta/ironic era we're stuck into, if King Curtis would shout "Sullivaaaaaan my soooooon !" tomorrow on TV, people would actually praise it.

 

Damn. I just realized that Bray Wyatt was basically a modern Dungeon of Doom all by himself. Except not even funny because there's no Hogan to notice that they aren't any Hulkamaniacs here and that it's not hot. There's only Randy Orton bland ass doing Diamond Cutters on video maggots...



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 07:07 PM

The "Yep Movement"! Kevin and Sami are great

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 09:46 PM

A little worried about where this is going with Daniel Bryan.  We know Owens and Zayn are winning and I would be shocked if Bryan isn't the one making the 3 count.  If so then you know they will go somewhere with Bryan and Shane.  



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 10:08 PM

Bryan's all but said if he doesn't get cleared by the time his contract ends, he's leaving to go somewhere that will let him return to the ring (barring him getting a negative test result). WWE has to know he's got one foot out the door, it's odd they are doing an angle that seems to have him as the central focus. Do they think he'll stay if they make him the manager of the top heel group?



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:21 PM

Bryan's all but said if he doesn't get cleared by the time his contract ends, he's leaving to go somewhere that will let him return to the ring (barring him getting a negative test result). WWE has to know he's got one foot out the door, it's odd they are doing an angle that seems to have him as the central focus. Do they think he'll stay if they make him the manager of the top heel group?

 

Nah, they know the only way he's staying is by letting him wrestle. Bryan has said WWE has been incredibly supportive of him during this whole process and know what he wants to do. There's still 9 more months until his contract expires so him getting a big angle right now isn't that shocking, specially when we are heading into Mania season. If this was July 2018 I'd be more surprised.



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:58 AM

Maybe this is unfair but can it really be a coincidence that since the brand split, the worst show by far is always the one where Kevin Owens is pushed as the top heel?

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:13 AM

If does lead to him wrestling I really hope this isn't leading toward Bryan vs Shane at Wrestlemania.   I would like his first match back not be against someone who has no clue where his punches and kicks are going.  At least you knew with Shemaus that you were going to get hit hard and when.  

 

So apparently the WWE and the Facebook are going to work together and create a "Mixed Match Challenge" which is a tournament featuring mixed tag team tournament with winning getting $100,000 for the team charity of choose.  Don't think they have announced any teams.  Interesting concept  



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 09:50 AM

I'm digging the main event storyline on SD.  I don't think it gets blown off on Sunday as yes this is clearly going all the way to mania.  They could obvs. have Shane or Bryan turn but the wildcard might be an Orton turn.  I don't want another Orton single main event run but him in a group with Owens and Sami might work out.  He was most interesting he has been in while when he joined the Wyatts in late 2016/early 2017.  I don't think they are going in that direction but I wouldn't be surprised



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 12:46 PM

Maybe this is unfair but can it really be a coincidence that since the brand split, the worst show by far is always the one where Kevin Owens is pushed as the top heel?

Not unfair, really. The whole JeriKO -> New Face of America -> KO/Zayn storylines were a drag.

 

The highlight of KO's last two years was the Festival of Friendship segment, and that's it.






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