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#21 Hawkeye12

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 09:55 PM

I'll go with MSG 1984, Hulkamania's first year vs Sheik, Orndorff, Studd, Schultz, Valentine, some good Andre stuff like the tag match where he gets bloodied, Piper-Snuka (although Tonga Kid later), Slaughter-Sheik, Brawl to End it All with Richter's title win, Adonis/Murdoch as tag champs who I really enjoy, Santana-Valentine, and even an Inoki appearance sprinkled in and the end of Backlund's run vs Valentine.



#22 gordi

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:09 PM

I'll go with MSG 1984, Hulkamania's first year vs Sheik, Orndorff, Studd, Schultz, Valentine, some good Andre stuff like the tag match where he gets bloodied, Piper-Snuka (although Tonga Kid later), Slaughter-Sheik, Brawl to End it All with Richter's title win, Adonis/Murdoch as tag champs who I really enjoy, Santana-Valentine, and even an Inoki appearance sprinkled in and the end of Backlund's run vs Valentine.

 

No offense, but this post at this point in this thread makes your user name seem VERY ironic. 



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:13 PM

 

 

The point isnt some desert island thing, it would be what would be the best discovery. Is there stuff from 1989 msg or 1993 koraken which isnt out there?

 

If that's the case... 1980 Superdome for Hayes vs JYD in the cage and Hogan vs Andre. 

 

 

Problem with that is you are only getting two shows. 

 

8/80 Card looks awesome

 

  1. Terry Latham beat Tommy Wright (9:15).
     
  2. Terry Orndorff & Mike Miller beat Johnny Mantell & Ron Cheatham (12:00).
     
  3. King Cobra beat Frank Dusek (10:15).
     
  4. The Assassin beat Steven Little Bear (12:00).
     
  5. Ray Candy beat Killer Khan (9:47).
     
  6. The Grappler beat Wahoo McDaniel (11:00) via DQ.
     
  7. Paul Orndorff beat Ken Mantell (14:00).
     
  8. Andre the Giant DCO Hulk Hogan (13:00).
     
  9. Mid-South North American Champ Ted DiBiase beat Mr. Wrestling II (14:00).
     
  10. Dusty Rhodes & Buck Robley beat Buddy Roberts & Terry Gordy (5:00) in a "double bullrope" match.
     
  11. Junkyard Dog beat Michael Hayes (11:20) in a "steel cage dog collar" match

 

Grappler v. Wahoo should be good, and DiBiase v. II would be great too

 

 

10/80 show isn't as good

  1. Cocoa Samoa beat Mike Miller (10:00).
     
  2. Jimmy Garvin beat Terry Latham (6:00).
     
  3. Ray Candy & Wahoo McDaniel beat The Turk & The Mexican Angel (7:07).
     
  4. Mid-South Louisiana Champ Jake Roberts beat Paul Ellering (13:00).
     
  5. Ted DiBiase beat The Super Destroyer (15:00) via DQ.
     
  6. Dusty Rhodes beat Ivan Koloff (10:46).
     
  7. Junkyard Dog & Bill Watts beat Ernie Ladd & Leroy Brown (15:00).
     
  8. Mid-South North American Champ The Grappler beat Karl Kox (11:00).
     
  9. Ernie Ladd beat Paul Orndorff in a "lights out" match

Ernie Ladd v. Paul Orndorff could be good, and I am sure Grappler v.  KKK was fun, but this was pretty weak for a Mid-South super show

 

 

Can't win for losing on this... but the August card is the one I would go back and see if I could be at any shows that I've never seen footage of. There's a lot going on here and definitely historic on multiple levels. 



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:14 PM

I'm a sucker for the Manhattan Center from 05-07. If I had to pick, I'd probably pick 2006, the centerpiece of Bryan Danielson's ROH Title reigns with multiple great level defenses in that building. 



#25 gordi

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:15 PM

I'm a sucker for the Manhattan Center from 05-07. If I had to pick, I'd probably pick 2006, the centerpiece of Bryan Danielson's ROH Title reigns with multiple great level defenses in that building.

 
No offense, but this post at this point in this thread makes your user name seem VERY ironic.  :lol:

By which I mean:

You might expect that someone who has the eye of a hawk or someone who is "smart" to have noticed this post:

The point isnt some desert island thing, it would be what would be the best discovery. Is there stuff from 1989 msg or 1993 koraken which isnt out there?



#26 SmartMark15

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:22 PM

 

I'm a sucker for the Manhattan Center from 05-07. If I had to pick, I'd probably pick 2006, the centerpiece of Bryan Danielson's ROH Title reigns with multiple great level defenses in that building.

 
No offense, but this post at this point in this thread makes your user name seem VERY ironic.  :lol:

By which I mean:

You might expect that someone who has the eye of a hawk or someone who is "smart" to have noticed this post:

The point isnt some desert island thing, it would be what would be the best discovery. Is there stuff from 1989 msg or 1993 koraken which isnt out there?

 

 

Ah, I see. Probably the Mid-South Coliseum or whichever arena Memphis ran out of in the 70s so we could see the Lawler-Fargo feud. 



#27 Phil Schneider

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:26 PM


 


 


The point isnt some desert island thing, it would be what would be the best discovery. Is there stuff from 1989 msg or 1993 koraken which isnt out there?

 
If that's the case... 1980 Superdome for Hayes vs JYD in the cage and Hogan vs Andre. 
 
 
Problem with that is you are only getting two shows. 
 
8/80 Card looks awesome
 
  • Terry Latham beat Tommy Wright (9:15).
     
  • Terry Orndorff & Mike Miller beat Johnny Mantell & Ron Cheatham (12:00).
     
  • King Cobra beat Frank Dusek (10:15).
     
  • The Assassin beat Steven Little Bear (12:00).
     
  • Ray Candy beat Killer Khan (9:47).
     
  • The Grappler beat Wahoo McDaniel (11:00) via DQ.
     
  • Paul Orndorff beat Ken Mantell (14:00).
     
  • Andre the Giant DCO Hulk Hogan (13:00).
     
  • Mid-South North American Champ Ted DiBiase beat Mr. Wrestling II (14:00).
     
  • Dusty Rhodes & Buck Robley beat Buddy Roberts & Terry Gordy (5:00) in a "double bullrope" match.
     
  • Junkyard Dog beat Michael Hayes (11:20) in a "steel cage dog collar" match
 
Grappler v. Wahoo should be good, and DiBiase v. II would be great too
 
 
10/80 show isn't as good
  • Cocoa Samoa beat Mike Miller (10:00).
     
  • Jimmy Garvin beat Terry Latham (6:00).
     
  • Ray Candy & Wahoo McDaniel beat The Turk & The Mexican Angel (7:07).
     
  • Mid-South Louisiana Champ Jake Roberts beat Paul Ellering (13:00).
     
  • Ted DiBiase beat The Super Destroyer (15:00) via DQ.
     
  • Dusty Rhodes beat Ivan Koloff (10:46).
     
  • Junkyard Dog & Bill Watts beat Ernie Ladd & Leroy Brown (15:00).
     
  • Mid-South North American Champ The Grappler beat Karl Kox (11:00).
     
  • Ernie Ladd beat Paul Orndorff in a "lights out" match
Ernie Ladd v. Paul Orndorff could be good, and I am sure Grappler v.  KKK was fun, but this was pretty weak for a Mid-South super show
 
 
Can't win for losing on this... but the August card is the one I would go back and see if I could be at any shows that I've never seen footage of. There's a lot going on here and definitely historic on multiple levels. 

I can see the argument, kind of a quality over quantity thing. That JYD v Hayes match was amazing I am sure

#28 gordi

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:29 PM

Jackie Fargo! There's a guy I'd like to see more footage of. He had a great character and real charisma, from what little I have seen.

#29 Hawkeye12

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:50 PM

 

I'll go with MSG 1984, Hulkamania's first year vs Sheik, Orndorff, Studd, Schultz, Valentine, some good Andre stuff like the tag match where he gets bloodied, Piper-Snuka (although Tonga Kid later), Slaughter-Sheik, Brawl to End it All with Richter's title win, Adonis/Murdoch as tag champs who I really enjoy, Santana-Valentine, and even an Inoki appearance sprinkled in and the end of Backlund's run vs Valentine.

 

No offense, but this post at this point in this thread makes your user name seem VERY ironic. 

 

 

Yep, I kind of dropped the ball on this topic  :)

 

I like that Omni '89 list if for nothing else to see Muta's TV title win over Sting. 

 

1990 Omni gets a rare Hogan appearance vs Perfect and also a Dusty return in a mixed tag, FOUR Flair-Luger matches and another tag, LOD/Steiners vs SST/Doom cage, Steiners/Nasties cage, Doom/Windham/Arn in a cage, two Sting-Flair rematches including a Dusty finish plus odd stuff like Harley teaming with Windham and Arn in a six-man replacing Flair, Bryan Adams teaming in Demolition before he'd even been given a name, and Randy Colley getting to headline with Sting as that night's Black Scorpion.  Such an odd hodge podge of nostalgia for me from my first full year as a fan I'd be happy with it.



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:18 PM

3/9/84  Satánico © v Lizmark NWA Middleweight title

 

7/13/84 Satanico v. Samurai Shiro Hair (not the one we have on tape)

 

10/26/84 El Dandy v. Javier Cruz hair (This might be the match the EMLL announcers always bring up whenever anyone bleeds a ton)

These are all on Youtube. Satanico vs Samurai Shiro is clearly the one that's online, you wouldn't have a hair rematch in the same month when one guy already has a buzzcut. One of the dates listed for it is incorrect.



#31 Phil Schneider

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:21 PM

According to luchadb they had three hair matches in 1984

#32 gordi

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:26 PM

Yeah, totally underrated venue. Built in, I believe, 1919 and still standing, so coming up on its 100th anniversary. Hosted wrestling cards as far back as at least the early 30s, nearly twenty years before Stu began running shows there

 

And it just occurred to me: In the 1960s you'd have had Big Time Wrestling and then Gene Kiniski's All Star Wrestling (out of Vancouver) running NWA shows in the Pavilion as well. 



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:38 PM

According to luchadb they had three hair matches in 1984

According to luchadb they had three hair matches in the same month in 1984, including two on back to back days. It's all the same match, just with conflicting reports about what day it took place on.



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:45 PM

Mid-South Colesium in 1984 just for the star power that came through.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 12:15 AM

I think it would be really cool to get Mid South Coliseum in 1980 for Billy Robinson's run of arena matches while Lawler was out of action. The Memphis roster was actually stacked during that time with good vets and up and coming guys, so I can't imagine most shows not being good.

 

Also, Phil, that War Games from The Omni is actually just a Bash '89 rematch. :) But I wonder if they took it any farther just because they didn't have to avoid the blade since they were saving it for Flair-Funk on top.



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 12:36 AM

According to luchadb they had three hair matches in 1984

They're the same match, sadly.

 

1984 Arena Mexico means we could also have seen Satanico/Misawa. To be fair, Misawa looked crap in the Arena Mexico footage we do have, but that's a helluva "what if" scenario...



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 01:01 AM

Why Arena Mexico when you have El Toreo de Cuatro Caminos? For the whole duration of UWA I am unsure if Arena Mexico and Arena Coliseo ever outperformed it. Even in the rigor mortis phase you had some interesting Double Power cards.



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 08:47 AM

Oklahoma City's Myriad, anything from 1984 to 87--only because if I had been 15 years older, I would have been there every single week, and it galls me that I was born in a wrestling hotbed but it died before I grew up. Or Tulsa, but I'm not from Tulsa, ha.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 09:13 AM

Why Arena Mexico when you have El Toreo de Cuatro Caminos? For the whole duration of UWA I am unsure if Arena Mexico and Arena Coliseo ever outperformed it. Even in the rigor mortis phase you had some interesting Double Power cards.


Agree with this entirely. Feels like El Toreo is the obvious answer

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 09:29 AM

I think Arena Mexico might make sense if we go back into the 70s or earlier but who knows what we'd get at that point. Otherwise, if 80s, then yeah, UWA. I'm tempted to get the Tuesday Portland shows from 1980. That's sort of the crux of this. Do we go with a known quantity to fill in blanks or something that'd be all new to us. I'd be tempted by year in the 70s for Amarillo for instance. 






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