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#41 stunning_grover

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 04:19 AM

Yeah, definitely a very good show so far.

 

The hair vs. hair match between Minoru Suzuki and Hirooki Goto was very good. Suzuki dominated most of the match. Goto started bleeding from the mouth after a series of stiff blows by Suzuki.

 

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 04:55 AM

The junior heavyweight four-way was not really my thing. Lots of high flying moves from Will Ospreay. 

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 05:25 AM

Tanahashi vs. Jay White had some decent moments, but also some awkward moments. Jay White was on the top rope, but then went back down after deciding not to hit a move off the top rope. It made a lot of people in the crowd laugh.

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Jericho vs. Omega is next!



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 06:12 AM

Jericho vs. Omega was tremendous!



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:04 AM

Okada vs. Naito was great.

 

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:14 AM

Only saw the main event, the no selling for the first 3/4 of the match kept it from being truly great from me for I still thought it was really fucking good.

 

As much as I shit on Gedo's lazy booking, I honestly can't believe he didn't pull the trigger on his most over superstar who is also a legit draw. It's not like getting the title from Okada will hurt attendance, Naito has held his own and is super fucking over. Any other company pulls this bullshit off and people would be losing their minds over it.



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:34 AM

Great show overall, but goddamn the result of the ME baffles me.



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:38 AM

I started watching with the 6-man tag match. Good show overall. There's nothing I'd rate as a MOTYC, but there's nothing I actively hated either.

 

A couple of notes. One, I thought Jericho was clearly the better wrestler in the Omega match. I don't recall ever thinking that in a Jericho match before. Two, I wonder what's next for Okada. He's run through the entire division and Jericho and Jay White, who could be plausible challengers if properly built up, both lost. And his bell bottoms were distractingly bad.

 

Who was the chick on the Japanese announce team? She was pretty cute.



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:50 AM

If I had to predict, I'd say that Ibushi is the next challenger for Okada. Him vs. Cody was a "special singles match" & that pretty much means that the winner becomes the number 1 contender.



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 08:42 AM

Just got back from watching the show on TV at my friends house. Turns out he has a satellite dish and gets all of the New Japan events, which is how we got to watch the show. 

 

5 hours is a LOT of pro wrestling, but the time just flew by. I had a blast, enjoyed the show from top to bottom and thought that almost half of the matches were really excellent. 

 

I missed the New Japan Rumble and the very start of the Bucks match because I finished work at 16:30 and got to my friend's place about 5:15. 

 

The Young Bucks match was pretty flippy... but I thought that 3K did a good job of selling. I didn't hate it. 

 

The Six Man Gauntlet Match didn't completely hold my attention. That's partly because my friend had just been to see Last Jedi and we were talking about Star Wars. Ishii and Fale had some pretty cool stuff going on near the end and that got us focused back on the match. 

 

Cody vs Ibushi totally exceeded my expectations. Bad guys doing bad guy things, everyone selling the gradual accumulation of damage, a sick bump or two, a nice escalation of the action. I did not expect that Cody vs Ibushi would be a damn fine pro wrestling match. Well, let me tell you: Cody vs Ibushi was a damn fine pro wrestling match. I love Cody's Dustin Tribute hairdo, and thought Brandi did a great job as a heel manager. 

 

During the Tag Title match, I got really distracted by how much Junior looks like his dad in the right light and from certain angles. Other than that, I had the feeling that this one played up everyone's strengths and camouflaged their weak points; and I really liked the structure of LIJ having to struggle back from underneath against big and mean opponents. Totally solid tag team action. Enjoyed it a lot. 

 

I love love loved Goto vs MiSu. Stiff and violent. An even better fight from underneath story than the tag match. Hardway blood. I genuinely thought that Goto got choked out on the Hanging Sleeper. That was some crazy good selling. Suzuki tossing the doctor out of the ring was a nice, sick touch. 

 

The Four-Way had some inventive spots. I enjoyed Scurl's heeling. I was surprised by who won. 

 

I don't feel like Jay White has put it all together yet, and maybe he is not quite ready for a big Dome Show singles match just yet. Also, Tanahashi legit seemed to be working hurt. The match did not suck, but it wasn't very good. I liked the ending. 

 

Jericho vs Okada blew me away. Best Jericho performance in years. There was hate and emotion and sweat and blood, and yet again there was the selling of accumulated damage. The crowd was awesome, as well. 

 

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and I was a little burned out by the time it started... but it was obviously well-worked, well-paced, and had a strong layout. 

 

Great show overall. Better than I had expected. Very glad I got to watch it as it happened, with a friend. 



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 08:53 AM

went to bed for a bit and just woke up and skipped ahead to Omega vs Jericho. Wow. Great stuff, the best Jericho gaga mixed with the best of Kenny Omega's nonsense put together in an Attitude Era/ late ECW type brawl with all sorts of bells and whistles. about to start the main event now



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:04 AM

I thought the show was solid and consistent throughout. It was better than I expected, and to be fair it had no hope of delivering what we got for WK11, however I felt some of the booking choices were odd.

 

I guess I'll have to wait and see how they play out, but honestly, what a waste of Jay White if he wasn't going to go over Tanahashi. 



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:28 AM

Didn't watch the Rumble.

Opener match was fine; nothing more, nothing less. Glad they're taking the division seriously, but I wanted RPG 3K to win and became the true kings of the mountain.

Gauntlet match was mediocre as expected, but hey Ishii is champion of something.

Cody vs Ibushi was a good match, nice body and great climax. So happy they put Kota over, I'm no way a Cody fan (anymore, loved him in WWE).

I liked KES vs LIJ, the heat segment was golden and EVIL'S hot tag too. Would have prefered if they had a few more minutes 'cause the win felt too easy.

MiSu/Goto was great. Stiff, dramatic, without Suzuki-Gun... All I could ask for. Post-match was awesome too, Suzuki's the most badass wrestler alive when he wants to.

The F4W was nice, with some cool moments and some dull ones. Crowd didn't give a shit about Scurll/Ospreay, loved it. Hiromu cleaning the house near the end was amazing :'(

I wasn't too focused when the IC match happened, and I need a rewatch, but I loved White's offensive in this. Tanahashi was good enough. Repeat, I need a rewatch.

Omega/Y2j was fucking great. First half was funny, but when the bladejob happened the magic started. What a Jericho performance, his best one since... 2012? So cool. And thanks to Omega for not choosing his classic big match formula against such opponent, it was the right call.

Aaaand finally the main event.


That was WK 12, everybody!!!





Ok, fine. The ME was Incredible, nothing new in terms of NJPW's big match formula but the special feeling was there at every moment, because it was THE moment. Naito's moment, the fans moment. Aaaand it wasn't. And that was horrible. And they fucked up the most beautiful tittle-chase story since Bryan. And no, next year is not going to be the same. Terrible ending for a pretty good show (and a terrific match).

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:33 AM

Gedo's booking patterns win out and spoil what should have been a crowning moment in New Japan history.

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:48 AM

I have really loved everything about the Jericho/Omega feud.  They totally delivered.  Great feud and match.  It's the only match I've had time to watch this morning, so I'm going to come back to rest tonight.  But, damn, that was cool! 



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:01 AM

The Young Bucks go over someone they had no business beating. Why?

 

Tanahashi goes over a returning talent that desperately needed a rub and a good showing. Neither happened.

 

Okada goes over the arguably most over wrestler in the world right now, in what was supposed to be a legendary crowning moment.

 

 

That's a hat trick of bad booking decisions on the biggest show of the year. Good God.

 

Event itself was pretty good tho, but those matches do leave a sour taste.



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:39 PM

I saw it mentioned on Twitter, but doesn't it seem the Switchblade gimmick was meant for someone else and Jay White was the last minute backup plan? He doesn't seem to fit at all, and it comes off as very WWE like seeing a round peg in a square hole like that.

 

Speaking of WWE like, having a card full of good to great matches and an undercard that mostly overdelivered only to have all the discussion after be about baffiling booking decisions made it seem like Vince had a hand in booking WK12.



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:40 PM

A lot of bad booking. A lot of the wrong guy going over. A couple decent matches. Worse show than last year. Omega/Jericho was fun. Main event felt lackluster. Never reached that next level & I felt ended abruptly. Suzuki/Goto was pretty good. Maybe MOTN. 

 

Exceptionally disappointed in Naito/Okada. I expected so much more. And a different outcome.



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:45 PM

I don't get Tanahashi going over at all. Getting Jay White over aside, he's spent most of 2017 working on a body held together with duct tape and wishes. I thought for sure they would want to get the IC belt off him and maybe lock him in a room for a couple months to finally heal. 



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:00 PM

I mentioned earlier on this thread that the tana match was the only one that interested me, but based on the feedback I did not bother watching it.

The main event was the only match I watched from the show and it just felt so lethargic for the first 15 min, and not at all a drama filled epic that they were going for, even though I do think it was better than last year's main event. Full thoughts on the match are in the match thread. However, everything with the cobra clutch was great I loved that little sequence.

As for the booking decision he did do it before at wk7 and 9 when everyone thought that okada would win. Here though it felt worse because while I have no investment in naito I have seen far more visceral support for him to an overwhelming level where he just had to win. Will he never be this hot again? That remains to be seen but for the moment it looks like a poor decision.

Unlike the okada losses to tana, here it is obvious that okada is not losing the position of ace any time soon and he is a good 6 years younger than naito. I could see naito becoming the nakamura to okada's tanahashi, winning the g1 winning the title but never really being the guy.




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