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#21 Robert S

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 03:29 PM

Mike Graham got Hulk Hogan into WCW and created the nWo...

That's two more things he has in common with Greg Gagne.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 04:50 PM

Even his time in TNA was probably the best of that promotion, he wasn't involved for most of the real LOLTNA stuff. 

 

 

You can't honestly sit there and say Jeff Jarrett taking a lie detector on IMPACT with all of the "tricks" Eric Young was telling him his uncle had to pass lie detector tests covered in a bunch of cheesy props over his involvement in the TNA screw job Montreal rip off for the NWA title at Slammiversary wasn't LOLTNA material.



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 04:52 PM

For what it's worth, Graham was a legit shooter who performed policeman duty for his father in Florida. Not saying he could take Saturn, but still.

 

XD I'd love to see the supposed unruly talent they had to get Mike Graham of all people to sort out. Guys like Bob Roop must've felt privileged to be allowed to share in such an honor when the great Mike Graham could've easily been sorting guys out all on his own and left them without a job.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 03:54 AM

Would Jarrett have 1 match for WWE?



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 06:15 AM

Jarrett back involved with WWE is hilarious. Does HHH have a win from 1995 he needs to get back or something?

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 12:21 PM

HHH and JJ would actually have a pretty decent wrestling match. I am not clamoring to see it, but if it happened-- I wouldn't be in my own personal hell because of it.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 12:23 PM

Jarrett would be one of the few people that can work a prototypical HHH match and deliver good results in the process.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 12:33 PM

HHH and JJ would actually have a pretty decent wrestling match. I am not clamoring to see it, but if it happened-- I wouldn't be in my own personal hell because of it.

Would AJ Styles, Bobby Roode, and Eric Young come out to fight DX? 



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 01:16 PM

HHH/Jarrett would be interesting. They're both good wrestlers who think they're great wrestlers, which more often then not makes them shit wrestlers.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 01:52 PM

If you watch Jarrett's late WCW and TNA stint, it's not the case, really.

 

Jarrett never booked himself as a great wrestler having epic matches. He established a formula (Double J Special I call it) usually ending with tons of bullshit and guitar shots. Some sucked pretty hard, especially when his pal Russo wanted to make him Steve Austin and when Jeff was coasting, but some were actually quite entertaining and fun. But it was far, very far from the bloated HHH main-event formula style from the early 00's, when he was "teaching how to work" to everybody.

 

Plus, the exploding guitar, when you accept his absurdity, is actually a fun spot which give a great visual and sounding effect, while the fucking sledgehammer was the worse, most stupid and illogical weapon ever and it never looked any good because unless you actually kill a guy with it, well... 

 

They were indeed two overpushed upper mid-card guys working on top of their respective promotion at the same time, which makes it interesting to compare, but to me, Jarrett's highs were much more fun and varied. Hell, he's still half responsible for one of Michaels best match ever.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 02:25 PM

Jeff (and Karen) were having pretty entertaining times in AAA (hard to call a lot of what AAA does angles or matches sometimes) until his demons got him to the point that his "no condition to perform" was impossible to ignore.  



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 02:53 PM

Jeff (and Karen) were having pretty entertaining times in AAA (hard to call a lot of what AAA does angles or matches sometimes) 

 

What timeframe was that ?



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 03:52 PM

The meat of it was 2011-2015, I remember Jeff showing up on TNA tv with the AAA title but they had to cover it up because AAA has weird US TV rights. 



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 04:29 PM

I know people's tastes & opinions may vary, but I thought Jarrett's 2011 was a fucking blast. The "Double J, Double M-A expert" shtick was fun shit from the start, and then the whole six-month program with Kurt Angle was WAY more enjoyable than it had any right to be. It could have been terrible, but they seemed to strike up a great chemistry right away - going all the way back to their previous program in '08/'09, but I really found Jeff's character work to be on another level by 2011. The MMA stuff, the coupling with Karen, and just the overall act felt much more polished.

The feud featured A LOT of rematches and extra stipulations, but the finishes were creative and entertaining enough to keep me invested through the whole thing.

I'm someone who definitely prefers southern fiery baby face Jeff over country music villain Jeff. And, while I originally dug his Don't Piss Me Off facelift, that whole run wore out its welcome by the time he started veering into the Slapnuts horse-shit.

All that being said, I believe it was right around that 2011 TNA stint where I finally bought into Jeff as a main event level heel. It felt like he really put all the pieces together, despite no longer being involved in the World Title picture or anything by that point. His whole heel act was just worlds better than his tiresome Planet Jarrett days - although, at times, I honestly think some of those matches were good fun in an overblown, overbooked WWE style way.

I honestly think Jarrett just gets a lot of residual hate from those fucking awful reigns up top in WCW. Because I didn't mind him as a mid-carder in the Fed, and a good chunk of his TNA stuff isn't as terrible as it's made out to be.

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 04:34 PM

I honestly think Jarrett just gets a lot of residual hate from those fucking awful reigns up top in WCW. Because I didn't mind him as a mid-carder in the Fed, and a good chunk of his TNA stuff isn't as terrible as it's made out to be.

 

I think it's his WCW run combined with him overpushing himself during the early days of TNA.

 

I remember people aching for Jarrett to lose his title to Raven on one of the PPVs, but it didn't happen. In retrospect, a junkie like Raven was at the time probably couldn't be trusted with the responsibility. Raven ended up winning it anyway though, I think. Typical "LOLTNA" stuff, I guess.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 07:00 PM

I really enjoyed Jarrett's babyface title run in TNA, including the Raven match, and also the MMA stuff with Angle later.  I never cared for most of his WCW run, although his ladder match with Benoit at Starrcade 1999 may be my personal favorite match for either guy.  His stuff with Owen and Debra right up until the Chyna match was good.  Having watched 1995 RAW again, he really felt like one of the top guys in the company during that period, even though he was kept in the IC title picture.  Hardest part watching him in that era is his awful ring outfits and gear, it'll make you blind!



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 07:10 PM

All we want is some Elias and Jarrett interaction?



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 07:41 PM

During his initial 93-95/96 run Jarrett's only win over a big star was over Hall at RR 95. He lost to all the top guys of that time. Clean as a sheet. He had to struggle to beat Bob Holly. I don't think he was able to recover from that in WCW or when he came back to wwf in 97. He was seen at a certain level. All the attempts to elevate him past that certain level felt forced and the people knew it.

To me it goes back to how he was booked in that initial wwf run

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:16 PM

He beat Luger by countout to qualify for the '94 KOTR, but that was about as cheap of a win as possible, so...



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:34 AM

I think Jarrett is underrated and people never give him a chance because 'never drew a dime lol' bs. He was supposedly a top three merch seller with the Slap Nuts stuff, or so I have read (Torch iirc). Also, fuck anyone who thinks Jarrett going in to the HOF is some kind of crime. If Rikishi and Koko and the Attitude Era women can go in then Jeff Jarrett deserves to go in.






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