Mad Dog Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 I see him as strictly a mid-carder. Ibushi is a world class talent and if you're going to bother bringing him in then he should be matched up against a good talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Also there's the thing to consider that this is probably all going to be angle advancement anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Â I feel like I could have given a monkey a pack of cigarettes and the names on this show and it would have come up with a better card. Â That's a bit much. I mean really who can know what the goings on are in putting together this card that might of led it to come out this way. Being the booker is a pretty thankless job most of the time so why dump on the guy and pretend absolutely anyone could've done a better job? Â Â Because that's his whole run as booker. Taking talent you are interested in and making sure they don't interact in any sort of interesting way. I would be less frustrated with the card if Delirious hasn't spent years putting out mediocre shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPS Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Â Â I feel like I could have given a monkey a pack of cigarettes and the names on this show and it would have come up with a better card. Â That's a bit much. I mean really who can know what the goings on are in putting together this card that might of led it to come out this way. Being the booker is a pretty thankless job most of the time so why dump on the guy and pretend absolutely anyone could've done a better job? Â Â Because that's his whole run as booker. Taking talent you are interested in and making sure they don't interact in any sort of interesting way. I would be less frustrated with the card if Delirious hasn't spent years putting out mediocre shows. Â Â And those mediocre shows with the level of the talent he has access to use are drawing better than ROH has ever done, now it could be argued that's in spite of his booking but the point is at the end of the day he's still kept as the booker for a reason. Who knows what battles he has to fight to satisfy all the parties involved including with trying to please wrestlers who aren't always the most rational and the Sinclair higher ups who if you've heard what Cornette has spoke about during his time there is an uphill battle in and of itself. Â So if a guy like Cornette with at his stint in the company had nearly 2 decades of wrestling booking experience along with his total tenure in the business at a high level was having problems keeping talent happy and in line while also trying to satisfy the Sinclair suits then it wouldn't be crazy to think a guy like Delirious with significantly less experience all around would also face similar struggles. Â Obviously Delirious has something to offer as how many wrestling bookers are there today making a living and booking a thriving promotion in North America on a national level? If it was that easy to put it all together that a monkey could do it better than why would Sinclair not get someone else who would obviously do a better job and thus make them more money? Â Probably because there isn't anyone else and Delirious does a lot more than he's given credit for. I couldn't imagine how hard it is to keep all the moving parts in sync enough to keep business rolling while satisfying overseas partners,talent and corporate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 You are actually right on a lot of those points in regards to Delirious. But they did have to hire someone for talent relations because he was so bad at it, see the Keith Lee situation. He isn't a good booker but he knows how to navigate Sinclair and puts up with their general ineptitude. There are more qualified people but I don't think it's a situation they would last in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Low Ki is off Bloodsport. Â Given his track record, zero surprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Yeah but I would say we got a much better upgrade  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmare007 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Show hasn't even started and the fuckery levels are already at it's highest  Low-Ki bitching out is too damn perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I mean, I don't think Adam Page is bad mind you, I just don't think he's at the level that either NJPW or ROH seem to thing he is yet. Â I find him to be actively bad. He's a heel, in the most high profile feud he's ever had in his short career. And in the lead in to what may be the biggest match of his career as a heel, he did a dropkick into a standing shooting star, which was the biggest pop of the match. It was the stupidest thing in wrestling I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Sucks for Low Ki being an ass. Suzuki is a swank replacement and I liked his first match with Riddle but I would be lying if some of the dream match appeal of Ki vs Riddle is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concrete1992 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Sucks for Low Ki being an ass. Suzuki is a swank replacement and I liked his first match with Riddle but I would be lying if some of the dream match appeal of Ki vs Riddle is gone Wait...how is some of the dream match appeal gone? That seems silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 It's Riddle vs Suzuki in KUMITE. The dream match appeal is, if anything, higher. Â The biggest appeal Ki/Riddle had was the possibility of the former trying his unprofessional spiel and getting decked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 It's Riddle vs Suzuki in KUMITE. The dream match appeal is, if anything, higher. Â The biggest appeal Ki/Riddle had was the possibility of the former trying his unprofessional spiel and getting decked. Â Is that why he backed out? Or is Ki hurt or something? I was super-looking-forward to that match. I still really need to check out Riddle's show. It'll be interesting to see if all of the matches can pull off the concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I dunno, I like Minoru but his match with Cody was really disappointing, so my hype for Minoru/Riddle is lower because of how average that match was. I was more excited for Low Ki, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 He released a statement claiming a neck injury, but it doesn't appear he ever had any intention of showing up. It's not like he's someone who would get the benefit of the doubt. Waiting until the day before to cancel comes off as a bitch move designed to hurt the promoter. Â Â Also I saw it pointed out on Twitter the irony of Suzuki's gimmick being someone unprofessional and violent and Low Ki's gimmick being a professional but IRL they are the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I was vastly more excited for Ki-Riddle. Â Suzuki-Riddle already happened and was merely pretty good. Don't get me wrong, it's a good match to pull out at the last second. But it's a letdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Now I really want to see him take on Riddle. Just so intriguing to see a guy who's known for being a bully go up against someone that doesn't have to play along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Low Ki has burned more bridges than the French Resistance at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 As I pointed out on DVDVR about Suzuki vs. Riddle -- this time around it should be different from their first match as this will be more of a somewhat worked Ganryujima match than a straight up pro-wres match or at least that's what they're making it out to be based on the stipulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childs Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 As I pointed out on DVDVR about Suzuki vs. Riddle -- this time around it should be different from their first match as this will be more of a somewhat worked Ganryujima match than a straight up pro-wres match or at least that's what they're making it out to be based on the stipulations. Â Yeah, I hope that's the case. I just feel like Riddle, for all his legit bona fides, has become more and more of a generic indy superstar. So it would be cool to watch him pull out something more unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Yeah, I hope that's the case. I just feel like Riddle, for all his legit bona fides, has become more and more of a generic indy superstar. So it would be cool to watch him pull out something more unique. This has been something I've noticed in a lot of his recent matches. They are becoming very repetitive and the fun/novelty of them is dying down. Â So far this year, the only 2 Riddle matches I've seen that have been good/very good are the James Drake match from EVOLVE 100 and the Jeff Cobb match from MLW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup23 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Â Â Sucks for Low Ki being an ass. Suzuki is a swank replacement and I liked his first match with Riddle but I would be lying if some of the dream match appeal of Ki vs Riddle is gone Wait...how is some of the dream match appeal gone? That seems silly. Riddle and Suzuki have already wrestled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 WWN already providing some quality this weekend... Website is down. Glad I cancelled my subscription and will just use Fite TV to get their events (which is more useful to me as they also stream RIZIN and the problems I've ever had with were minimal and always had a steady and reliable HQ stream). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawadaSmile Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 So... Â Â Keith Lee just beat Ohno at Axxess. I'd say that gives us a perspective on what WWE thinks about Lee. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 So... Â Â Keith Lee just beat Ohno at Axxess. I'd say that gives us a perspective on what WWE thinks about Lee. Â Â Â Â It's been rumored he signed a while back and was just waiting for medicals and finishing up his remaining bookings. I would think this seemingly confirms this. Not so much that he won (it was for his WWN title) but that they had him in there with the NXT player/coach/gatekeeper. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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