Slasher Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Although I understood the story for both matches, I did have a teensy bit of a thought that it is sad the WWE couldn't bother to let at least one of the Japanese imports to win a title last night. I guess they are content in having them be Royal Rumble winners (Asuka got to be the first ever winner of the females' match at least). Still slightly disappointing to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookysaku Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Obviously this show was too long, but as someone who doesn't watch WWE regularly at all what really took me out of this was the lack of crowd heat. I get the WM-specific reasons for that, but I noticed it at the Royal Rumble too. What's going on with crowds getting exhausted after one match on WWE shows? I don't think a lot of companies have that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMKK Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Thinking back on that show after the fact, there really were a lot of bad/questionable booking decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Thinking back on that show after the fact, there really were a lot of bad/questionable booking decisions That kind of happens every year? Except for XXX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just to be clear, I was reacting to you saying Rock isn't black. That would surely surprise his black father, and it isn't your judgment to pass anyway. Anyway, are you talking about Bob Sapp, and didn't that happen 3 years after Booker T was the last WCW World Champion? 10+ after Ron Simmons? sorry by thw wcw titile was not the main title wehen simmion o=won it the nwa was based on what i think was happening in wcw bakck then and by the time booker own the wcw title in 2000 it was so far devluaved that i for one owuld no lober call it a major title but fair dues Rock is half race biut he plays up hois samoan ssdie r=tather than is Afacian side more and thhe IWGP belt was just abou t the start being devalued by Inokism sapp i adit was the start of that and what about the other ponits about NJPW progreeive booking hell all of japans rings made a legit draw out of Volk Han the first big drawing muslim wresiler yes daistan if 90% muslim you cannot deabte me on whole first non worked russain point can you Booker never one the main title in wwe ie the wwe title tomyt knowing major singles tite that was was not just devalued to hell are you going tosay in 2000 under russo the wcw titke still ment as much as was NWA tutle did in procreing 45 or so years also major still active today singles title. i knot sure about thesatys iof thw nwa title when simmons won the wcw the main world titke i barecats time was the nwa world title and maybe ot the ponit based on who been allowed ot hpld it the nwa title and the IWGO are the cloest to true world titles in wrestling iwgp has had champions from three coninents and four nations nwa three conitents and five nations thats is just my view i what makes a world title uisng real sports logic but that bieng said the the belt that can legot trace its self bakc the as hackennscuth and gotch then that eblit is the legit world title just saying. Hey fuck ass, if NJPW is so progressive where is there women's division? Get your shit out of this thread, it's about Mania, not your delusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodate Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 And another thread got derailed by stupid shit about "just my odd views" and "real sports logic". Did you watch Mania ? Anthing relevant to say about it ? Can you use capitalization and punctuation as a sign of respect toward the other users ? For fuck's sake. I watched the main matches yes i never tried to derail anything i just state my view on what i see and how i see things. People say i troll becuase of my odd views when i do not troll and i tend not to give out high ratings with ease like alot of people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 You're just trying to get attention on yourself, as showed by the way you like to point at your "odd views" all the times. You're not exchanging, you're just trying to get yourself over and you are derailing threads with stupid shit about "white power prevailing" and comapring the Usos to the Crush Gals or ROH with LLPW and other nonsensical stuff. This is what a troll does, derailing threads to get attention on himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Illegal tag. The kid wasn't holding on the tag rope. UGH! Kid is the son of ref John Cone, he should have known better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richeyedwards Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Illegal tag. The kid wasn't holding on the tag rope. UGH! Kid is the son of ref John Cone, he should have known better! Crone was reffing the match, this is just nepotism. This was all a setup between crone and braun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 And another thread got derailed by stupid shit about "just my odd views" and "real sports logic". Did you watch Mania ? Anthing relevant to say about it ? Can you use capitalization and punctuation as a sign of respect toward the other users ? For fuck's sake. I watched the main matches yes i never tried to derail anything i just state my view on what i see and how i see things. People say i troll becuase of my odd views when i do not troll and i tend not to give out high ratings with ease like alot of people Why don't you state your views on what you see and how you see things in the relevant threads instead of derailing almost every single thread? You can for instance give your ratings on the matches you watched. Ronda was excellent. She was the best worker in the match, and it was her first match. Hell, if someone tried to argue she was the best worker of the night I wouldn't disagree. Brock was in a dgaf mode, and that is a pity. I am guessing they thought Reigns kicking out of 5 F-5s, including one on the table, would puthim over big-time given the move has been rebuilt as a one-shot killer over the last several months. Given his crimson mask, they really did try to get him over ala Austin at WM 13. But it was so overdone and frankly ludicrous, it actually worked against him. He was getting steadily over in the build-up and now he might just be less over than he was at the start of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodate Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just to be clear, I was reacting to you saying Rock isn't black. That would surely surprise his black father, and it isn't your judgment to pass anyway. Anyway, are you talking about Bob Sapp, and didn't that happen 3 years after Booker T was the last WCW World Champion? 10+ after Ron Simmons? sorry by thw wcw titile was not the main title wehen simmion o=won it the nwa was based on what i think was happening in wcw bakck then and by the time booker own the wcw title in 2000 it was so far devluaved that i for one owuld no lober call it a major title but fair dues Rock is half race biut he plays up hois samoan ssdie r=tather than is Afacian side more and thhe IWGP belt was just abou t the start being devalued by Inokism sapp i adit was the start of that and what about the other ponits about NJPW progreeive booking hell all of japans rings made a legit draw out of Volk Han the first big drawing muslim wresiler yes daistan if 90% muslim you cannot deabte me on whole first non worked russain point can you Booker never one the main title in wwe ie the wwe title tomyt knowing major singles tite that was was not just devalued to hell are you going tosay in 2000 under russo the wcw titke still ment as much as was NWA tutle did in procreing 45 or so years also major still active today singles title. i knot sure about thesatys iof thw nwa title when simmons won the wcw the main world titke i barecats time was the nwa world title and maybe ot the ponit based on who been allowed ot hpld it the nwa title and the IWGO are the cloest to true world titles in wrestling iwgp has had champions from three coninents and four nations nwa three conitents and five nations thats is just my view i what makes a world title uisng real sports logic but that bieng said the the belt that can legot trace its self bakc the as hackennscuth and gotch then that eblit is the legit world title just saying. Hey fuck ass, if NJPW is so progressive where is there women's division? Get your shit out of this thread, it's about Mania, not your delusions. Just to be clear, I was reacting to you saying Rock isn't black. That would surely surprise his black father, and it isn't your judgment to pass anyway. Anyway, are you talking about Bob Sapp, and didn't that happen 3 years after Booker T was the last WCW World Champion? 10+ after Ron Simmons? sorry by thw wcw titile was not the main title wehen simmion o=won it the nwa was based on what i think was happening in wcw bakck then and by the time booker own the wcw title in 2000 it was so far devluaved that i for one owuld no lober call it a major title but fair dues Rock is half race biut he plays up hois samoan ssdie r=tather than is Afacian side more and thhe IWGP belt was just abou t the start being devalued by Inokism sapp i adit was the start of that and what about the other ponits about NJPW progreeive booking hell all of japans rings made a legit draw out of Volk Han the first big drawing muslim wresiler yes daistan if 90% muslim you cannot deabte me on whole first non worked russain point can you Booker never one the main title in wwe ie the wwe title tomyt knowing major singles tite that was was not just devalued to hell are you going tosay in 2000 under russo the wcw titke still ment as much as was NWA tutle did in procreing 45 or so years also major still active today singles title. i knot sure about thesatys iof thw nwa title when simmons won the wcw the main world titke i barecats time was the nwa world title and maybe ot the ponit based on who been allowed ot hpld it the nwa title and the IWGO are the cloest to true world titles in wrestling iwgp has had champions from three coninents and four nations nwa three conitents and five nations thats is just my view i what makes a world title uisng real sports logic but that bieng said the the belt that can legot trace its self bakc the as hackennscuth and gotch then that eblit is the legit world title just saying. Hey fuck ass, if NJPW is so progressive where is there women's division? Get your shit out of this thread, it's about Mania, not your delusions. o wait Japan has the simply ousti biggest drawing tv ratings wise womans act of all time at there peak the crush gals were outdrawing 99% of all programs on tv full stop did WWE hottest time ever ddd they outdraw football over all demographics Zenjo at the top of crush gals were getting aorund 17% of viewing public to watch them in tv or aound 1/7 people nationwide as rule i dont think no wwe woman as drew as much tv ratings as 17% of the total viewing public even when they had the chance too at there utter peak wwe only drew 1/30 of the total us population or if japan and us has the same poulation size it would be 1/12 or around 8 mliion people but im out of this topic now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Wow, so you just get to magically combine all Japan promotions into one to compare to the WWE? Fuck that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodate Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 You're just trying to get attention on yourself, as showed by the way you like to point at your "odd views" all the times. You're not exchanging, you're just trying to get yourself over and you are derailing threads with stupid shit about "white power prevailing" and comapring the Usos to the Crush Gals or ROH with LLPW and other nonsensical stuff. This is what a troll does, derailing threads to get attention on himself. i made fare comprasions based on say the size of roh now ot LLPW its biggest that is a fare comparesion ot make and a a way of saying all in should with ease draw 10k or by extesnion ROH should draw six with ease now so compaing two things of aorund the same size is trolling now just becuse one in Japanese and the other is us would be like saying is trolling to compare Juventus to Real Madrid just becuse there in two diffrent nations in the world yes i follow soccer LLPW when it did that 15k show was around the same size as ROH is now so that is fair compare to make i think im sorry if you in fact disagree with that I use the word just my views so people do not think im trying to force my view on others,as i have i have been acuused of doing . its me trying to be non forcefull on things im very calm but forcefull guy but someone being to forcefull to be rude so i use the just my views to show im not being forcefull/rude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Obviously this show was too long, but as someone who doesn't watch WWE regularly at all what really took me out of this was the lack of crowd heat. I get the WM-specific reasons for that, but I noticed it at the Royal Rumble too. What's going on with crowds getting exhausted after one match on WWE shows? I don't think a lot of companies have that problem. The Reigns/Lesnar thing was common knowledge since last year. So the predictable nature of everything was boring crowds. WWE also has an insane amount of content they put out weekly so they are just burning the fan base out in general I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodate Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Wow, so you just get to magically combine all Japan promotions into one to compare to the WWE? Fuck that. Zenjo is one promotion all Japan womens its not every Japanese promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just ban the jobber for good and be done with it. It's not worth the drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmmnx Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sorry if this has been talked about already, but how do you guys think they should book Ronda going forward? I see her as a special attraction ppv only worker for now. The women's division is pretty thin, and the list of women who would look credible against Ronda is even thinner. Plus you don't run the risk of exposing her on live tv in a match she hasn't practiced. She showed so much natural ability in her debut, but she's still as green as it gets so I'd protect her for now. I think the biggest problem will be finding credible opponents for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Guys, if someone in the thread isn't speaking about the topic at hand or contributing to the discussion it may be easier to let said person speak without any kind of response. Less back and forth and it'll eventually fade away. Much like the crimson mask that Roman Reigns sported last night en route to a tremendous win. I still can't believe that finish. I'll be tuned in tonight, tomorrow, next week and every other week barring scheduling conflicts (maybe some DVR nights during NBA playoffs) because that's what I do, but that finish felt like the ultimate slap in the face after all of the Roman booking over the last few years. Can't quite put my finger on just why it feels different right now, but I'm not even hot over it. Just deflated and not even interested in the next churn right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rah Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 A wtf thread for a wtf Mania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 A wtf thread for a wtf Mania It was good yesterday for the show -- i.e.; the first 50 pages or so. Now it's just the same buffoonery from other derailed threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Enthusiast Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 This is certainly an interesting take... I don't think it's a unique one. Goldberg was massively over during his streak. Even Tatanka was over. Asuka didn't even come close to Ludvig Borga, of all people. It struck me in the crowd that Asuka was far less over than Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sorry if this has been talked about already, but how do you guys think they should book Ronda going forward? I see her as a special attraction ppv only worker for now. The women's division is pretty thin, and the list of women who would look credible against Ronda is even thinner. Plus you don't run the risk of exposing her on live tv in a match she hasn't practiced. She showed so much natural ability in her debut, but she's still as green as it gets so I'd protect her for now. I think the biggest problem will be finding credible opponents for her. I had this hilariously awful idea of WWE paying Holly Holm millions to do a clean job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richeyedwards Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sorry if this has been talked about already, but how do you guys think they should book Ronda going forward? I see her as a special attraction ppv only worker for now. The women's division is pretty thin, and the list of women who would look credible against Ronda is even thinner. Plus you don't run the risk of exposing her on live tv in a match she hasn't practiced. She showed so much natural ability in her debut, but she's still as green as it gets so I'd protect her for now. I think the biggest problem will be finding credible opponents for her. Based on the finish of Asuka vs Charlotte they have to be building to Ronda vs Charlotte maybe to main event mania next year. But that is a whole year away, if they do it then up until then who is there for her to face, Asuka? nobody else is a big deal on the roster Bayley isn't neither is Sasha Becky is deader than dead. Alexa? maybe. The only two who are positioned on that level are Charlotte and Asuka but it is too soon for that if she is going to be the on the road member of the roster she has said she wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 I would say Nia Jax if she hadn't just turned. I'm sure that will happen at some point, but now isn't the time. Becky would be a good choice just in that she's really good at carrying people and getting things over the right way. Yes, no one would expect her to win, but she'd make Rousey look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 They could always pay Cyborg a couple of bucks and pride themselves on putting on the dream match the UFC could never put together... She was pushing for a match with Becky last year and she was doing some pro-wrestling training in California, but it never materialized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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