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#341 stro

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 06:12 AM

There's a reviewer at 411 who just said he thinks Bryan was supposed to get the belt all along at WM 30 and the RR 2014 was just a swerve to get Batista over as a heel. Dave has been mentioning lately that the company has been trying to get over the idea that they always intended to push Bryan from the start when it's been said time after time that it was not the plan (including on their own programming) People are still believing now and in probably 10 yrs or so it will be fact

 

Bryan definitely would have had the title at some point in 2014 even if it wasn't in the plans at WM 30 originally. I would say that the second Punk left, the decision was made for Bryan to get the belt, because that next week they shifted all focus to him and reignited the feud with HHH that had been phased out in November or so. It seems pretty clear that the specific plans became clear almost immediately after Punk walked out.

 

A lot of happy accidents happened right at the same time:

 

Punk's walk out

WWE's pettiness to stick it to Punk and replace him with the other big indie guy and give him what they never gave Punk

Batista's disastrous return

Orton's DOA title reign

That Michigan football game doing the Yes chants

 

but that decision was clearly made right after the Rumble. People always talk about the terrible reaction to Batista's win, but people seem to forget that the Orton/Cena match that night was met with CRICKETS. Fans did not give a single fuck about Orton as champion and didn't even pop for all the finisher spam and kick outs. It was the same when Orton won the TLC match in the first place to win the belts. 



#342 Strummer

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:05 AM

Remember they tried to flip the script for a few weeks and get the people to cheer Batista so I don't think it was a decision made that quickly after the Rumble.

Pretty sure Dave said that when Batista was booed at Elimination Chamber against Del Rio they knew they had to change plans.

But to think that wwe planned this elaborate work from the beginning and had it planned all along is pretty ridiculous IMO

#343 Bix

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 10:47 PM

Remember they tried to flip the script for a few weeks and get the people to cheer Batista so I don't think it was a decision made that quickly after the Rumble.

Pretty sure Dave said that when Batista was booed at Elimination Chamber against Del Rio they knew they had to change plans.

But to think that wwe planned this elaborate work from the beginning and had it planned all along is pretty ridiculous IMO

It was very obvious at the end of Elimination Chamber that they were going with Bryan so that can't be it.

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 12:35 AM

I'm with DMJ and Stro, the day after the Rumble when Punk walked out. I still get a chuckle out of the fact that they apparently wanted Bryan/Sheamus for WrestleMania XXX, because it sure seems like they had some kind of hard on for that match.

 

- Scheduled for 'Mania XXVII, but moved to pre show and then turned into a Battle Royal

- The 18 second title change at 'Mania XXVIII

- The plan for 'Mania XXX before deciding to go all the way with Bryan

- The night after 'Mania XXXI is when Sheamus came back and turned heel by attacking Bryan, and more than likely would have gone to an IC Title program if Bryan hadn't been hurt again.



#345 Jimmy Redman

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 01:43 AM

It was at some point between the PPVs that things shifted. After the Rumble they still tried to babyface Batista a couple more times (even doing the Cena "doesn't matter if you cheer me or boo me" non turn) and then finally realised it wouldn't work. It certainly wasn't right after the Rumble, and at that point you could tell they were indeed moving Bryan down into a Sheamus feud.

They are so lucky they stumbled into it in the end, because it was almost the worst missed conclusion to a story ever.

#346 Strummer

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 01:58 AM

Remember Punk said that Vince told him "Batista and Orton will be the biggest main event in WM history" the day after the Rumble when he walked out.  So at least at that point, 24 hours later, they thought they could still go with that as the main event






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