Dave Meltzer stuff
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 07:31 PM
He didn't live in the US until recently, but Bret's an American citizen by birth via Helen.
Maybe but when I think of Bret Hart, I don't think American.
Posted 27 May 2010 - 10:23 PM
After Kobayashi jumped to New Japan for the “match of the century” with Inoki, it hurt IWE badly. The decision was made to go with the best worker at the time, Mighty Inoue, as world champion. But he was a small flyer, and it didn’t work. First, an interpromotional show was held at Sumo Hall in Tokyo, with All Japan, billed as promotion vs. promotion, a ten match series which saw Kimura, groomed to be the next champion, go to a double count out with Jumbo Tsuruta, in what was voted that year’s match of the year in Japan. Inoue dropped the title to Mad Dog Vachon, who immediately lost it to Kimura in a cage match, making him the established top star.
04/19/75 Kimura over Vachon for IWE Title
03/28/76 Jumbo vs Kimura MOTY
Yeah, I don't get that.
Also, Baba beat Rusher at least twice. The piece doesn't give much through to the long ignored All Japan vs IWE feud/rivalry that went from 12/75 through 02/78.
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Posted 02 June 2010 - 06:11 PM
Ratings are a sore point with everyone because they are an anachronism from another era of boxing.
Rating MMA fighters is ridiculous (even though I have to do it) because it's a game of inches, fighters in different groups fight with different rules and top guys don't fight each other. How am I supposed to compare Gilbert Melendez and Kenny Florian? It's absolutely impossible, and to even do so is both stupid and irrelevant. Each company and culture has different mentalities. It's a professional sport where entertaining the audience is more important in the big picture to almost everyone except the fighters than pure wins and losses. I've seen fighters often win dull fights and promoters who have them on guaranteed number of fighters per year deals, don't book them and starve them out. When a show is over, people never talk about how ratings get changed based on who won and lost, they only talk about if they were entertained or not by the show.
I think Dana was referring to promotions that advertise on web sites and the sites then favor those promotions or feel the need to get people from those promotions in the ratings. I don't think he meant, nor did he say, that people are directly paid off by promotions to get their fighters rated, because that doesn't exist as far as I know. He's made the same speech to me.
I don't think it's an issue. The issue certainly was, but has become less of late, the idea that somebody like Matt Lindland would be ranked No. 1 at middleweight or Shinya Aoki at lightweight.
Every promoter claims ratings are biased again their promotion.
Essentially White's words were twisted and even what he meant is probably a stretch in most cases. It's a non-issue to begin with, and now people are jumping on the twisted version of the words knowing that there's no evidence of a promotion paying off people who vote in polls.
Does Dave not understand how Dana's thought process reflects on him as a Yahoo! Sports columnist?
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