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goc

Member Since 09 May 2009
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In Topic: WWE TV 4th - 11th December 2017

Yesterday, 02:32 AM

No thread on Sheamus having spinal stenosis?? That's the injury that ended up retiring Edge and Austin.

Considering that WWE didn't opt to do a tag title change on Raw when they had the chance I have to assume that Sheamus' spinal stenosis is nowhere near as serious as Edge's was. I would guess it's the lower back type and not in his neck.


In Topic: WWE 27 November - 3 December 2017

02 December 2017 - 05:59 PM

The main reason is that he exposed Vince McMahon as a frail old man. The secondary reason I think is that I don't think I've ever seen a crowd react to him in the slightest.

You must have not been paying attention at all in 2013 then because as part of the Prime Time Players he looked like he was ready to break out as a big time singles babyface. The crowd was always into his hot tags and doing his pose and HURRAH HURRAHS along with him.


In Topic: The 10,000 person crowd

29 November 2017 - 10:42 AM

Here are some of the biggest drawing indy shows of the 2010s and 2000s according to genickbruch.

Clash of the Legends 4/27/2007 - 6,000 - main event: Hulk Hogan vs. Paul Wight

 

Not sure how seriously to take that list because I know that Hogan/Giant match is definitely not right. Wikipedia page says 2,200 and is sourced to include how much the gate was.  http://www.stspod.cl...e-released.html


In Topic: The 10,000 person crowd

28 November 2017 - 09:03 PM

I don't think they can draw 10,000 people. It seems totally unrealistic and so far away from what any indie show has drawn in the U.S. that I kind of give them a 0% chance of pulling it off.

 

NEW is the indie promotion that draws more paying fans in the U.S. than anyone other than WWE (which of course Dave Meltzer is too busy crowing about PWG selling 300 tickets every few months to actually cover. $10.99 folks) and they do quite well running minor league baseball stadiums in the summer using guys like Cody, Rey Mysterio, Ryback, Jerry Lawler, Jim Duggan and other various former WWE guys or big indie names. If you watch those shows on the Highspots Network the crowds look good and there are clearly 2,000+ people there. But they aren't sold out. So what chances do Cody and The Bucks have of selling out a 10,000 seat arena when Cody and Rey Mysterio couldn't sell out a 5,000 seat baseball stadium?

 

As far as promoting it as the "Let's show everyone how wrong Dave Meltzer is and prove The Bullet Club is as big as WWE!" experience and trying to get a bunch of marks to fly in for the show, that's definitely the way they will probably try to go. It will work to draw a respectable crowd BUT the thing is, those types of fans they are drawing are the same ones who love bragging about pictures of empty seats for a WWE show so it will be a big hit to their narrative to only do 6,000 people in a 10,000 seat arena even if the show winds up being profitable. This whole experiment seems as much about furthering a narrative as it is about actually making money so just drawing 6,000 people is gonna be looked at as a failure regardless of financial success.


In Topic: WWE 27 November - 3 December 2017

28 November 2017 - 05:14 PM

 

 

If the fans are determined not to accept Roman Reigns, WWE ought to take advantage and use it to potentially elevate Elias. A Roman/Elias title feud, with Shield vs. Elias/Dallas/Axel matches.

 

Roman has been treated predominantly as a babyface by crowds the last two weeks, especially in the Miz match. 

 

 

Agreed. But, last night was a much different story.

 

I'm not sure what you mean? Last night the Roman cheers and the "Let's Go Roman" chants were way louder than the boos and the "Roman Sucks" chants.