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joeg

Member Since 27 Nov 2015
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In Topic: Dave Meltzer stuff

14 January 2018 - 01:29 PM

 

 

I don't fully understand the Elgin story or why people are now angry at Dave. Not saying people shouldn't be angry at him. I just haven't seen a good synopsis of the situation. 

Elgin probably sexually assaulted a women. Dave called her a liar. He never talked to the women, instead he talked to Elgin and used a tumblr blog as his source.

 

 

Let's get a few things straight. You've already been corrected on the Egin thing (although she has insinuated that Elgin was manipulative towards her). Dave never called her a liar; he stated that, "the text messages released were heavily edit with many things said that were erased." Thirdly, he didn't use tubmlr as a source. All this broke in October/November and he commented on it following that. The tumblr page went live a 3 weeks ago. It was shared on Wreddit and Mo herself replied to a tweet with the link subsequent to that. That's when Dave made the mistake of posting the tumblr link without context or comment.

 

We don't know if he talked to Elgin.

 

He apparently didn't talk to the woman, so you are right there.

 

Read that sentence. Re read that sentence. Then re-read it again. Then re-read it again and again until you understand everything that is wrong with Dave Metlzer's editorial style. If Meltzer's subject and verb aren't even in agreement, and his tense is out of order, how can we agree that his facts are in order?   That's what I see as the biggest problem with Metlzer's handling of serious topics. His writing reads like it was written by a 12 year old who just snorted some adderall. 


In Topic: The 10,000 person crowd

11 January 2018 - 11:20 PM

if its in driving distance, I'm there.

 

Hypothetically- a rematch of Jericho vs Omega with Bryan Danielson and/or CM Punk in the main event and Rey Jr on the card should easily do the trick I would expect. Problem is Jericho vs Omega ended rather decisively so its hard to do a rematch. And without Jericho, Danielson, Punk or Rey Jr, there is no way you get to 10,000. 


In Topic: Royal Rumble 2018 Predictions

11 January 2018 - 10:56 PM

 

I'm pretty sure he didn't "become" a guy that coasts for most of the year and turns it up for like 2 or 3 big matches per year in WWE. Many made the same criticisms when he was in NJPW hiding 3/4 of the year in 6 man tags and only showing up for WK and some select G1 matches.
 
WWE exposure made people have 2 wrong notions, often by two distinct camps of fans:

  • His laziness is due to Vince's booking;
  • He needs to be carried to good matches.

But I said neither.

I don't blame Vince and I didn't say everyone carries Nakamura, though I can see how my post could be misconstrued as such. Rather, I was pointing out how good AJ is as a carrier. If we get the same Nak we've been getting all along, it will be another AJ carry-job. If Nak turns up the volume though, of course it'll be tremendous. Like I said, I started out red hot for Nak. I was super into him after that Sami Zayn match. But it didn't take long for the bloom to fall off the rose, for all of the reasons already mentioned by me and several others in this thread.

 

 

All of you are wrong. Nak is working a completely different type of match than he worked in New Japan. Working a 10 minute upper mid card/mid card TV match on a B Show should look absolutely nothing like working a 30 minute main event title matches we grew used to him wrestling during his 3 years with the IWGP belt and 5 years with the IWGP Intercontintal belt. He's not going to lay it in the way he did in Japan every Tuesday and every 3rd Sunday and he's not going to bump like that either. Now, if we see him in a prominent title match on a bigger show with some sort of build up, I would expect the appropriate level of effort and violence which we became accoustomed to in New Japan. 


In Topic: Wrestle Kingdom 12

04 January 2018 - 08:53 AM

went to bed for a bit and just woke up and skipped ahead to Omega vs Jericho. Wow. Great stuff, the best Jericho gaga mixed with the best of Kenny Omega's nonsense put together in an Attitude Era/ late ECW type brawl with all sorts of bells and whistles. about to start the main event now


In Topic: Wrestle Kingdom 12

04 January 2018 - 02:42 AM

Spoiler