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G. Badger

Member Since 19 Oct 2016
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In Topic: Obscure Japanese 90s Indies (Yume Factory, W*ING, KAGEKI, IWA Japan, Capture...

Yesterday, 01:06 PM

You haven't lived until you've watched the crapfest that is Abdullah vs Nobuhiko Takada for Tokyo Pro...

Thanks for the recommendation! I'm a fan of both guys but certainly know they have some faults. Surprisingly, neither set of problems came out too bad. Both were very professional...to a fault. They did 6 minutes of Abby choking Takada in some form, teased the fork then, 2 minutes of Takada laying in nice kicks. Kickout, more kicks, Pin, Bob's your uncle, we're done! Hahaha!

It was neat but, yeah craptastic. They could have tried for some kind of story but, ego was involved I'm sure. Still, really cool that it happened A good novelty match for sure.

I think that there's an Abby vs Sabu match from TPW...that might be my next match...there's bound to be blood :)

In Topic: Obscure Japanese 90s Indies (Yume Factory, W*ING, KAGEKI, IWA Japan, Capture...

11 August 2017 - 11:38 PM

Tokyo Pro - Russian Roulette Handkerchief Death Match: Mr. Pogo vs. Takashi Ishikawa from 2/96.

OK I'm disappointed. This had fair reason to be pretty good even without the Deer Hunter possibility. Kidding!

No, really I had no idea what to expect. Ishikawa was dressed like anti-Pogo but nothing interesting happened until the carpentry tools were brought out. No clue what the stipulation was about. Not looking good for my brief exploration into TPW.

There looks to be some Sabu matches however, so there's something to look forward to yet!

In Topic: The self-conscious epic in AJPW vs. The self-conscious epic in 00s WWE / indies

11 August 2017 - 09:18 PM

Oh yeah I agree they are good students for sure but, its about what they're being taught. These guys aren't watching old Lawler or Bock matches...and that's because the guys teaching them weren't watching those matches and those guys weren't watching either. People now are awesome at topping stuff from late 90s and beyond...cherry picking moves but, not really getting why they were great to begin with.

The error of youth is to believe that intelligence is a substitute for experience...

To quote in part the very dead Lyman Bryson

I want to say, I'm just being the devil's advocate really...its all more about the massive technological-cultural shift than anything. 1997 is not 2007 is not 2017. I suppose it goes back to EL-P's comments on the first page really...

In Topic: WAR - Wrestle and Romance/Wrestle Association R

11 August 2017 - 08:26 PM

Well, I'll be...my thoughts are with him, wherever he is. He's got a fan in me. Stoked his matches are available still for folks to enjoy.

In Topic: The self-conscious epic in AJPW vs. The self-conscious epic in 00s WWE / indies

11 August 2017 - 08:14 PM

Caught this on twitter and thought it was interesting in the sense that it backs a lot of what people thought about King's Road. From someone that would know about it.
https://twitter.com/...762264154193920

chris charlton‏ @reasonjp



 




Kyohei Wada on King's Road style.

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Weird if true, considering how many times Kawada would repeat the powerbomb.
 
I actually saw this after seeing the Kawada-Dr. Death Champion Carnival match. Kawada did two or three powerbombs to win and also used the stretch plum (the quote on Twitter goes on to say Baba hated submissions and would always yell at Kawada for doing them).

This part about the submission moves is funny. Funny as in interesting...anyhow certain historically significant moves in Japan could be match enders like the German, Backdrop, lariat even submission moves like a sleeper...then that wasn't enough. Wasn't Misawa booking eventually though? Misawa and Kawada weren't buddies and some of that permeated into their wrestling philosophy. In the late 90s Misawa & Kobashi went for moves, Kawada went ungodly stiffness.

Really, though the WWE epics of today and those in ROH in the past decade plus are more rooted in Japan Indies trying to imitate AJ than AJPW/NOAH directly. Watch Tajiri vs Hidaka from BJW 98? for instance...it clearly feels like 2003 ROH in pace, moves, and the desire to be legendary before it had any right to be. Its generational... I'm guessing most guys and gals wrestling today aren't half as knowledgeable and into the history of wrestling (dorks :D) as most people on PWO. And those who are, ARE NOT making it to or staying long in the big leagues, brutha.