Johnny Sorrow Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 As far as this clone stuff goes,It's TRUE! I know that when I look at Shaemus, Wade Barrett, Danial Bryan, and Brodus Clay, it's like I'm seeing quadruple!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Snuck in two more -- Regal vs. Ambrose from the WWF development territory and Cena vs. Mysterio, Jr. The former was a pretty good performance from Regal and the latter a solid mainevent for TV. Cherry picking modern WWE I think it's watchable stuff. I wouldn't want to watch it on a weekly basis or anything but the best matches, but I'd rather watch it than Japanese pro-wrestling or most lucha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I only saw the one Christian/Orton match, but the counters seemed to happen faster and smoother than I expected. The last Orton match I watched before this one was his 2006 match against Mysterio Jr. that was really spot sequence heavy. Another thing that struck me was the commentating. It was far from great, but an improvement over Cole trying to put over how emotional everything was. If you haven't seen Christian's 2009 ECW run, you should do yourself a favor and track it down. Especially the Regal feud but not just. He's the best TV champion WWE ever had. And yeah, I don't think Christian/Orton looked very scripted at all. He was better at it as a face, but one of Christian's best qualities as a worker is that he's able to look a lot of the "learning"/counters seem pretty damn organic and lock right into his large moveset naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Watched the Bryan Daniel vs. CM Punk champion vs. champion match. The match was okay but decidedly non-epic for a champion vs. champion match. There were no real moments of drama even by television match standards and neither guy seemed to play to character. Couldn't understand the set-up, either. Does anyone care about being vegan or straight edge or the best in the world? I couldn't figure out whether Danielson was a heel or not, but I've read people praising his acting of late and I can't see it. He's obviously charismatic to his fans but he lacks star quality. His wrestling style seems wildly out of place as well. Maybe it's because I watched the Cena matches first but Punk looks like a much better WWE worker. This is the way it seems to me. I'm probably completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomk Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Question: what is Vince's personal level of involvement these days? Was there a moment where he stepped back? Just wondering how all this shit could happen on his watch that's all. He's the man who CREATED many of the things we're talking about. There are things I don't get though. Why the lurch towards being so much more corporate? Why the stifling scripting? Why the blandness? Is this all coming from Vince? He was still fully involved personally in the late 90s, is he still? I mean he's known for being very hands on, but there's very little of his personality in today's product. Huh? These have always been the criticisms of Vince's product and this has always been Vince's dream from the start. He's taken wrestling out of the "smoke filled back rooms" and turned it into a modern corporate product. He's created a highly controled enviroment where management/the promotion means more than the interchangeable talent. This has been the goal he has been working toward his entire adult life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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