Vince Russo Options

[FLIK]

WCW (and TNA) kept doing it because apparently protecting Sting's gimmick is more important than showing sensitivity to one of the most infamous tragedies in wrestling history.

Eh, don't really believe in that kind of stuff myself.

Repelling from the cieling is a very dangerous high risk activity so from that point of view it's not the smartest idea but it has been done safely by countless ppl countless times in & out of wrestling so just because 1 person accidently dies by doing it that in & of itself doesn't mean it shouldn't be done anymore ever again or that it's insensitve or disrespectful to do so.

Misawa died in the ring taking a back drop suplex, is every wrestler who does that type of suplex from now on being insensitive?

[Dr. Reverend Vic...]

WCW (and TNA) kept doing it because apparently protecting Sting's gimmick is more important than showing sensitivity to one of the most infamous tragedies in wrestling history.

Bret said they approached him before they had Sting do it again. He did not have a problem with it.

Misawa died in the ring taking a back drop suplex, is every wrestler who does that type of suplex from now on being insensitive?

If they are still doing head drop type suplexes, they are stupid.

[Dylan Waco]

My memory is that Harry Smith did a vicious head drop suplex on Christian (I think?) the day after Misawa died.

[Bob Morris]

The one thing to always remember about what happened with Owen is this: The issue was that WWF wanted him to use a harness with a "quick release" instead of the version of the harness Sting always used, in which he had to unfasten both the main line and the backup line. Had Owen's harness been the same as Sting's, chances are he would still be alive.

In other words, the WWF's foolishness was using equipment the company should never have been using for such a stunt.

[Jingus]

The one thing to always remember about what happened with Owen is this: The issue was that WWF wanted him to use a harness with a "quick release" instead of the version of the harness Sting always used, in which he had to unfasten both the main line and the backup line.

Wasn't that kind of harnessed picked because they wanted to do a comedy pratfall? IIRC, the intended spot was that the Blue Blazer would be lowered down to ringside, but then stop and get caught hanging just a few feet above the mat. Owen would hit the quick release, and splat down onto the canvas for a cheap laugh.

I also remember reading somewhere that the harness wasn't even the proper kind of rappelling harness, that it was something designed for work on sailboats or some damn thing like that. Anyone else remember that, know if it's true?

[flyonthewall2983]

I heard the first part of that a few times. It wouldn't have surprised me, as it would have fit bringing back the Blue Blazer character as a goof on 80's babyfaces.

[Coffey]

So, did anyone watch the live YouShoot iPPV? Thoughts?

I'll do a running list of shit he says while watching that might be relevant:

• Thought Nigel McGuiness was a great talent which surprised him on the mic but it was circumstances beyond TNA's control which led to him not being used.
• Said he's never seen a single show from Ring of Honor.
• New Jack asked if Vince Russo created Steve Austin's "Stone Cold" character based off of The Sandman from ECW. Russo took several minutes to avoid the question but basically said Austin came up with it. Then New Jack didn't shut up for like ten minutes just rambling about nonsense.
• "If you could start a promotion tomorrow, with five superstars past or present, who would your five guys be?" - 1st: Big Cat Ernie Ladd, my world champion. Tag Team champs: Handsome Jimmy, Luscious Johnny Valentine. Shout out to Bruno. The Rock & Steve Austin.
• "Any animosity toward Jim Cornette?" - "Not an once."

Alright, I've lost interest. Not watching this anymore. Just seems like Russo trying to get some quick cash to me and repeating all his BS lines from the past.

[El-P]

Russo came off as bad as ever. He still doesn't understand why David Arquette was a retarded idea. He still thinks every retarded angle he wrote were great and funny. And he still thinks a wrestling show that goes toward more reality based stuff can't have "blatant fake wrestling matches" on it.
The most annoying thing was the bunch of Russo marks in the room who clapped for every stupid claim he made.
Of course Russo is a "christian" so he can't call any woman a ho, and he loves to work with the women (as showed by his great track record I guess, he sure never booked misogynic shit with "pregnant bitch" Terri Runnels and PMS for instance...).
I don't think Sean Oliver is a big Russo fan and he had some pretty funny tongue-in-cheek lines during the thing.
Anyway, Russo still sounded completely full of shit.

[flyonthewall2983]

The most annoying thing was the bunch of Russo marks in the room who clapped for every stupid claim he made.

That reminds me of the last time I saw Ann Coulter on Bill Maher's show. With every ridiculous thing she said, it was clear there was a segment of the audience that was her plants that rooted respectably to wildly, which was quite odd to watch.

If he didn't, Sean should have grilled him on his "blatant fake wrestling matches" quip. For example, asking if he felt there was a way to just get rid of matches altogether.