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Dylan Waco
post Oct 1 2011, 02:23 AM
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This is a spin off from another thread, but I am interested to see if the consensus has shifted here. For years the standard opinion was "Bret" with a smaller contingent talking up Shawn and a few people throwing Benoit up as a possibility. Other possible candidates for a top ten if not a top slot would be...

Too Cold Scorpio
Owen Hart
Steve Austin
Eddy Guerrero
Vader
Ric Flair (wouldn't be near the top of my list but I think we need to be realistic about names that would pop up)
Dean Malenko
Rey Misterio
William Regal
Mick Foley
Ricky Steamboat
Arn Anderson
Brian Pillman
Psicosis
Juventud Guerrera
Sabu

Guys who I think I could see being contenders for my personal top ten, but might not rate so highly for others would be...

Tracy Smothers
Mikey Whipwreck
Little Guido
Terry Funk
Jerry Lawler
Dustin Rhodes
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Dylan Waco
post Oct 2 2011, 01:13 PM
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No clue what the argument for Saturn would be.

Lance Storm is an awful choice. I actually think if I was restraining myself to U.S. names alone I could come up with 100 guys who I think were safely better. I've never been a fan of Storm's, but I was not expecting to find him as shitty as I did when I watched all the ECW footage. Aside from the Dreamer miracle match at Hardcore Heaven and a few tags, Storm has very little of note from that decade.
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Dylan Waco   Best U.S. Worker Of The 90's?   Oct 1 2011, 02:23 AM
El-P   This is a spin off from another thread, but I am i...   Oct 1 2011, 05:56 AM
JerryvonKramer   Again, can't understand why you'd list Vad...   Oct 1 2011, 06:00 AM
jdw   Again, can't understand why you'd list Vad...   Oct 1 2011, 08:25 AM
Mad Dog   I think I would go with: Sting Vader Stan Hansen ...   Oct 1 2011, 06:29 AM
El-P   I don't even see why Sting would get a nominat...   Oct 1 2011, 06:48 AM
jdw   Eddy was born in the US. Bret and Benoit are Cana...   Oct 1 2011, 08:21 AM
NintendoLogic   Eddy was born in the US. Bret and Benoit are Cana...   Oct 1 2011, 09:25 AM
Dylan Waco   Eddy was born in the US. Bret and Benoit are Cana...   Oct 1 2011, 09:40 AM
MikeCampbell   [quote name='jdw' post='5483834' date='Oct 1 2011,...   Oct 1 2011, 01:33 PM
Raging Noodles   So would guys from Mexico who toured the U.S. be i...   Oct 1 2011, 03:13 PM
jdw   [quote name='Dylan Waco' post='5483851' date='Oct ...   Oct 2 2011, 04:40 PM
Loss   I think Bix and I have talked about Sting's in...   Oct 1 2011, 08:23 AM
Mad Dog   Crow Sting had that really good match with DDP on ...   Oct 1 2011, 08:31 AM
Mad Dog   Again, can't understand why you'd list Vad...   Oct 1 2011, 08:32 AM
jdw   He was a good worker that had moments and brief st...   Oct 1 2011, 09:15 AM
El-P   Having a good match with DDP in 1998 doesn't m...   Oct 1 2011, 09:01 AM
FLIK   A lot of other people mentioned in this thread f...   Oct 1 2011, 09:17 AM
Mad Dog   Jarrett is hard to rank. You kind of want to dism...   Oct 1 2011, 09:18 AM
JerryvonKramer   Why is Dustin Rhodes there in the OP? And is Dusti...   Oct 1 2011, 09:19 AM
Mad Dog   Rhodes is a more flexible worker than Sting. Sell...   Oct 1 2011, 09:29 AM
JerryvonKramer   Rhodes is a more flexible worker than Sting. Sell...   Oct 1 2011, 09:39 AM
Dr. Reverend Victator   Sting always worked hard. He may not of worked sm...   Oct 1 2011, 09:31 AM
El-P   Sting always worked hard. He may not of worked sm...   Oct 1 2011, 10:04 AM
Mad Dog   Rhodes is a more flexible worker than Sting. Sell...   Oct 1 2011, 09:45 AM
Dylan Waco   I actually like Sting more than most and considere...   Oct 1 2011, 09:59 AM
Mad Dog   Dustin's booking was really fucked in that 98-...   Oct 1 2011, 10:04 AM
Mad Dog   I picked him because he's honestly the only pe...   Oct 1 2011, 10:08 AM
El-P   I picked him because he's honestly the only pe...   Oct 1 2011, 10:13 AM
JerryvonKramer   I'd have to take a look at that match from Hal...   Oct 1 2011, 10:09 AM
Dr. Reverend Victator   It was his first match in over a year and he was ...   Oct 1 2011, 10:34 AM
Coffey   Jericho probably deserves a mention if we're t...   Oct 1 2011, 02:56 PM
Dylan Waco   Sabu has his fans. Sloppy or not there are plenty...   Oct 1 2011, 03:04 PM
Coffey   Sabu has his fans. Sloppy or not there are plenty...   Oct 1 2011, 03:14 PM
El-P   Sabu was capable of putting on some crazy, breath-...   Oct 1 2011, 04:06 PM
FLIK   He did "blew" spots on purpose at times ...   Oct 2 2011, 09:29 AM
smkelly   From January 1st, 1990 to December 31st, 1999, Bre...   Oct 1 2011, 05:29 PM
Dr. Reverend Victator   Sabu always made the big spots matter. There was ...   Oct 1 2011, 05:55 PM
El-P   Sabu always made the big spots matter. There was ...   Oct 2 2011, 01:41 AM
Coffey   It's fine, we can all agree to disagree or wha...   Oct 1 2011, 06:31 PM
Dylan Waco   I will say this for Sabu - he had a novelty qualit...   Oct 1 2011, 06:36 PM
Loss   Not someone who has a case, but someone who might ...   Oct 1 2011, 06:38 PM
Dr. Reverend Victator   What the fuck? Have you seen a Sabu match. He doe...   Oct 1 2011, 06:40 PM
Dylan Waco   The heel turn hurt him a lot. He was a great baby...   Oct 1 2011, 06:41 PM
El-P   I actually think Pillman is the ultimate "Wha...   Oct 2 2011, 01:55 AM
Coffey   What the fuck? Have you seen a Sabu match. He doe...   Oct 1 2011, 07:06 PM
Dylan Waco   Thinking about this today I think if you are favor...   Oct 1 2011, 07:37 PM
Loss   Bret was a big show performer through and through....   Oct 1 2011, 09:39 PM
Gregor   Bret was a big show performer through and through....   Oct 1 2011, 10:14 PM
Dylan Waco   Scorpio and Foley (besides Smothers) are the two g...   Oct 1 2011, 09:55 PM
FLIK   To be fair, that is one of the worst matches eve...   Oct 1 2011, 10:00 PM
Dr. Reverend Victator   Pretty poor demonstration. Punches were fine ther...   Oct 1 2011, 10:07 PM
Coffey   Pretty poor demonstration. Punches were fine there...   Oct 1 2011, 10:26 PM
Loss   I will add something else about Steve Austin. I t...   Oct 1 2011, 10:32 PM
Loss   Bret was a big show performer through and through....   Oct 1 2011, 10:34 PM
Strummer   Steve Austin from 93-97 seemed like a 1970s wrestl...   Oct 1 2011, 11:03 PM
El-P   Steve Austin from 93-97 seemed like a 1970s wrestl...   Oct 2 2011, 01:44 AM
Johnny Sorrow   I don't know...when I read "Best U.S. Wor...   Oct 2 2011, 02:26 AM
MJH   Bret's coliseum matches do through up some int...   Oct 2 2011, 08:28 AM
ohtani's jacket   I don't think anybody for the rest of the deca...   Oct 2 2011, 08:45 AM
Frankensteiner   In terms of Bret's Coliseum matches, I think t...   Oct 2 2011, 09:21 AM
Mad Dog   I fucking hate Sabu but I've never seen the pr...   Oct 2 2011, 09:40 AM
El-P   So, since he was brought up, where does Savage ran...   Oct 2 2011, 10:10 AM
Dylan Waco   Savage should have been on my original list. He...   Oct 2 2011, 11:32 AM
Coffey   Savage is great but in WWF he turned into a commen...   Oct 2 2011, 11:53 AM
JerryvonKramer   Savage ... was better in the 80's A think a s...   Oct 2 2011, 01:49 PM
Dylan Waco   I think guys like Smothers and Scorp who were acti...   Oct 2 2011, 12:36 PM
FLIK   I'm a big fan of 95 WCW myself Arn vs Flair...   Oct 2 2011, 01:05 PM
Coffey   I think guys like Smothers and Scorp who were acti...   Oct 2 2011, 01:10 PM
Dylan Waco   No clue what the argument for Saturn would be. La...   Oct 2 2011, 01:13 PM
Coffey   Well, those names were given to my via text messag...   Oct 2 2011, 01:34 PM
Dylan Waco   Also, I challenge your 100 list! I couldn...   Oct 2 2011, 01:57 PM
NintendoLogic   I don't think Jericho belongs. By his own admi...   Oct 2 2011, 01:49 PM
Mad Dog   Lance Storm had exactly one good run in his career...   Oct 2 2011, 02:58 PM
Coffey   The only one of those I would argue with is Kane. ...   Oct 2 2011, 03:35 PM
Mad Dog   Kane was in a successful tag team with X-Pac and h...   Oct 2 2011, 03:44 PM
Coffey   Well, he was also Isaac Yankem DDS & fake Dies...   Oct 2 2011, 03:56 PM
El-P   I don't like Lance very much, but I'd have...   Oct 2 2011, 04:02 PM
Mad Dog   You can say the same thing about Lance Storm thoug...   Oct 2 2011, 04:03 PM
JerryvonKramer   I'll lend my voice to the Arn case. He was phe...   Oct 2 2011, 04:39 PM
Dylan Waco   I'll lend my voice to the Arn case. He was phe...   Oct 2 2011, 04:46 PM
jdw   I'll lend my voice to the Arn case. He was phe...   Oct 2 2011, 05:16 PM
Dylan Waco   [quote name='Dylan Waco' post='5483960' date='Oct ...   Oct 2 2011, 06:59 PM
Coffey   You can't hold fake Diesel against Kane though...   Oct 2 2011, 04:52 PM
Mad Dog   But it was beyond a shitty gimmick. He had to wre...   Oct 2 2011, 04:55 PM
FLIK   But it was beyond a shitty gimmick. He had to wre...   Oct 2 2011, 05:48 PM
JerryvonKramer   Dylan, with Arn vs. Flair you can talk about down ...   Oct 2 2011, 05:58 PM
Dylan Waco   Dylan, with Arn vs. Flair you can talk about down ...   Oct 2 2011, 07:05 PM
FLIK   Arn v. Flair is a fine match for what it is, but I...   Oct 2 2011, 07:28 PM
Dr. Reverend Victator   Don't see how the basic Kane gimmick is bad. H...   Oct 2 2011, 06:04 PM
jdw   If 1992 Arn was the best year (along with Steamboa...   Oct 2 2011, 06:33 PM
Frankensteiner   I'm not here to romanticize Arn's 1992, bu...   Oct 2 2011, 06:51 PM
Dr. Reverend Victator   I think Arn/Regal from Superbrawl IV is better tha...   Oct 2 2011, 07:13 PM
JerryvonKramer   Here's what I said about that match on my site...   Oct 2 2011, 07:28 PM
Dylan Waco   I assume we are talking about Fall Brawl   Oct 2 2011, 07:29 PM
FLIK   Naw there were a few others 10/2/95 on Nitro wh...   Oct 2 2011, 07:37 PM
Dylan Waco   Oh I am AWARE that there are others. My point is ...   Oct 2 2011, 07:39 PM
JerryvonKramer   I was talking about Fall Brawl, yeah. The 5-minut...   Oct 2 2011, 07:40 PM
FLIK   Ah, gotcha, been a since I watched it, should pr...   Oct 2 2011, 07:57 PM
Ricky Jackson   Ah, gotcha, been a since I watched it, should pr...   Oct 2 2011, 08:12 PM
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