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Bret Hart vs Roddy Piper (WWF Wrestlemania VIII 04/05/92)

WWF WWE Wrestlemania April 5 1992 Indianapolis Bret Hart Roddy Piper 3.5* Title Changes

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#1 Loss

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 09:25 AM

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 12:58 PM

Is there a better Piper singles match on tape than this? I can't think of one, although I suspect he has had better matches. Very good match. Well-scripted and Piper did jobs rarely enough that Bret going over clean was a big deal. The finish has been copied many times, but it's still a great finish.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 01:21 PM

My other two favorite WWF Piper matches are Piper vs Hennig 12/90 MSG and Piper/Orton vs Orndorff/Andre 8/10/85 MSG. I'm not sure either are better than Piper/Hart (and admittedly one is not a singles match), but I wouldn't mind someone else chiming in on that.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 01:28 PM

I don't think it is on the level of Piper/Hart but I have also thought the dog collar match was very intense and well done.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 03:52 PM

I agree that this is well laid out match. I think Bret's selling made this match for me. The post-match with Bret bloody, barely able to stand and Piper strapping the belt around Bret's waist was a great image. I was trying to think of other major face v. face matches in this era and couldn't think of anything other than Warrior/Hogan. I know there's probably been some house show matches between mid-carders or tag teams (Tito/Koko, Harts/Rockers) but I can't think of anything major. I'm probably missing something.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:48 PM

Dog Collar would be the closest with the Rude cage match at #3, IMO.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 06:08 PM

I was trying to think of other major face v. face matches in this era and couldn't think of anything other than Warrior/Hogan. I know there's probably been some house show matches between mid-carders or tag teams (Tito/Koko, Harts/Rockers) but I can't think of anything major. I'm probably missing something.

Savage/Warrior later in the year at SummerSlam.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 06:20 PM

Dog Collar would be the closest with the Rude cage match at #3, IMO.


Rude Cage Match is a good match, but I find it hard to believe that's a top three Piper singles. The fun Savage match probably isn't quite as good but it's near the level of the Rude match and that doesn't seem like a match you would put in someone's top three.

Actually Buddy Rose had at least one really good match with Piper from memory.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:51 PM

Watching it at the time I wasn't shocked by the blood, but looking back it's surprising they did as much color that day as they did. Although Flair later told the story about McMahon chewing him out for doing it.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:00 PM

Bret admitted he lied and said he bled hardaway when he bladed. Flair saw that Bret bladed and thought that meant he could too. Vince chewed him out for it.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:40 PM

Love this match. Watching this again, did anyone notice the huge Four Horsemen sign in the crowd before the match started?

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 01:00 AM

I'm pretty shocked that Bret was able to con Vince so blatantly. How often do people accidentally gash their foreheads?

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 08:02 PM

Vince may have let it slide for more personal reasons. In Bret's book, he said that weekend of the show, Shane made a rather rude gesture towards his wife and had a heated confrontation from what I remember reading.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 02:02 AM

I don't even think he hid it all that well, because when I was 10 years old, I didn't even know what blading was, but I saw that spot and told my brother "when he goes to fix his boot he's pulling out the blood capsule, and when he holds his head after Piper hits him that's where he breaks it."

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 05:34 AM

Terrific match, and no, I don't think there was ever a better Piper match. Clearly one of Bret's best performance.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 02:28 PM

I don't think 1992 is Bret's best year but I think he does have a case for US WOTY. To me it's a toss-up between Bret, Steamboat, and Windham (I think Sting, Rude, Vader, and Savage could also be in the conversation). Bret doesn't have the quantity of Steamer and Barry but I don't know if you can hold that against him because he didn't have the same number of opportunities. Plus his opponents weren't nearly as good.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:56 AM

This is one of Piper's best matches. Easily in his top 10 single matches. This match really made Bret because Piper was a huge star. Though Piper did own Bret on the promos. I loved the segment before the match.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:36 AM

Terrific match, and no, I don't think there was ever a better Piper match. Clearly one of Bret's best performance.


Piper/ Valentine Dog Collar is better. But it is in the top ten of Piper matches for sure.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:09 AM

I feel like he had a match with Buddy Rose that was as good or better.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:41 AM

Think this gets better on multiple viewings. Big crowd and arena is pretty lit up. I think entrances look bigger with smaller stages. If that makes sense. Bret pretends to hurt his shoulder and gets a small package on Piper. I liked both good guys pulling out sneaky moves. Piper teases using the ring bell and crowd are happy he tosses it aside. Figure there be a bigger pop for the Sleeper but do like the finish. My favorite Piper match.





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