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Who is the worst booker ever?


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He never booked anywhere for real, but listening to Kevin Kelly and his ideas I think it's clear he would have been the worst booker ever, as even in his fantasy dream booking he manages to find ways to inevitably leave all kinds of money on the table.

 

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First one that comes to mind is his fire Batista idea. Guy was a jerk backstage and said something Kelly didn't like so Kelly equated that to meaning Batista had no talent and was worthless to the business. Lots of money being left on the table right there. He also said the same thing about Shamrock, and there were many others but they aren't springing to mind right now.

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He never booked anywhere for real, but listening to Kevin Kelly and his ideas I think it's clear he would have been the worst booker ever, as even in his fantasy dream booking he manages to find ways to inevitably leave all kinds of money on the table.

 

Examples?

 

 

First one that comes to mind is his fire Batista idea. Guy was a jerk backstage and said something Kelly didn't like so Kelly equated that to meaning Batista had no talent and was worthless to the business. Lots of money being left on the table right there. He also said the same thing about Shamrock, and there were many others but they aren't springing to mind right now.

 

Man... they really screwed up Shamrock. Imagine a scenario where Bret taps out to Shamrock for the title. No screwjob and they set up the unstoppable MMA Shamrock dropping the title to Austin at Mania. Maybe Michaels doesn't have a casket match at Rumble that destroys his back, etc...

 

EDIT: I forgot Tyson was the referee. Holy Shit!!!!

 

Mike Tyson (former boxing champion) referees

 

Former MMA champion and current WWF Champion Ken Shamrock vs the toughest man in wrestling, Steve Austin. Money!

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Herd wasn't the booker, though. He was Executive Vice President.

 

True, but didn't he come up with such luminaries as the Ding Dongs? Also, he set the direction for WCW to be cartoony in the early 90s (see 1991 as a good example). Not saying that the wrestling was bad, just saying that it was his idea for all of that.

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Man... they really screwed up Shamrock. Imagine a scenario where Bret taps out to Shamrock for the title. No screwjob and they set up the unstoppable MMA Shamrock dropping the title to Austin at Mania. Maybe Michaels doesn't have a casket match at Rumble that destroys his back, etc...

 

EDIT: I forgot Tyson was the referee. Holy Shit!!!!

 

Mike Tyson (former boxing champion) referees

 

Former MMA champion and current WWF Champion Ken Shamrock vs the toughest man in wrestling, Steve Austin. Money!

 

This smacks of revisionist history. MMA didn't mean nearly as much 15 years ago as it does now. Boxing, while on the decline, was still a way bigger deal back then.

 

Whatever charisma and mic skills Shamrock had never really translated to the WWE environment. The thought that he ever would've been a bigger deal than Michaels in that match is just flat out absurd, and that's even if you think HBK was wildly overrated like some people here do.

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Man... they really screwed up Shamrock. Imagine a scenario where Bret taps out to Shamrock for the title. No screwjob and they set up the unstoppable MMA Shamrock dropping the title to Austin at Mania. Maybe Michaels doesn't have a casket match at Rumble that destroys his back, etc...

 

EDIT: I forgot Tyson was the referee. Holy Shit!!!!

 

Mike Tyson (former boxing champion) referees

 

Former MMA champion and current WWF Champion Ken Shamrock vs the toughest man in wrestling, Steve Austin. Money!

 

This smacks of revisionist history. MMA didn't mean nearly as much 15 years ago as it does now. Boxing, while on the decline, was still a way bigger deal back then.

 

Whatever charisma and mic skills Shamrock had never really translated to the WWE environment. The thought that he ever would've been a bigger deal than Michaels in that match is just flat out absurd, and that's even if you think HBK was wildly overrated like some people here do.

 

Shamrock was pretty freaking over. That died when he lost to Michaels in a shitty match.

 

MMA had buzz and was huge a few years prior. Tyson had a appeal, look what he did to that main event. Sure, HBK was the bigger star, but if Shamrock made Bret tap for the title and then destroyed everyone up till WM and faced Austin with Tyson as a referee, it would had been a HUGE deal.

 

Drawing Power for WM14 1) Tyson 2) Austin ...... 3) Michaels

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Herd wasn't the booker, though. He was Executive Vice President.

True, but didn't he come up with such luminaries as the Ding Dongs? Also, he set the direction for WCW to be cartoony in the early 90s (see 1991 as a good example). Not saying that the wrestling was bad, just saying that it was his idea for all of that.

Yeah but that's not the booker. That's the boss coming up with characters and input. At the time they had a booking committee .
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Great thread. Out of interest, is there a Meltzer-provided consensus on when exactly Nash took over as booker? Always sense a conflict in timeline with some saying it was pre-Starrcade 98, and others listing February 1999.

 

And Russo runs away with this for me. His two WCW runs were abominable, and exposed just how minimal his role in any true success was in the WWF. I wonder how well Dusty does if judged similarly on the pros and cons of his runs overall, out of interest.

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Vince Russo because of the shambles he did to WCW.

 

Those damn shambles. If he didn't do them I could still be watching WCW Worldwide from Disney/MGM.

 

 

Which in its early days before Nitro was quite entertaining.

 

What are you talking about? Those shows were awesome after Nitro debuted. Random luchadores and other guys. So much fun.

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Topically related, Russo's time in TNA shouldn't be overlooked when considering his body of work. One of the main reasons the company is looked at as the terminally running in place zombie it became is how he completely booked it into the ground when there was a time (a brief one, but still) where there could have been something there.

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