Loss Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 None of the links work, but now the newer posters at least know we didn't pretend there was a 2006 poll, and you can see what was being discussed at the time if nothing else. http://goo.gl/ieAfG8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 The idea wasn't exactly well-received at New Millenium Blues, which eventually spun off into Pro Wrestling Only: http://goo.gl/Zf2ZjG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Me working out my ballot picks here back in 2006, with others chiming in: http://goo.gl/evKa8L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 "He was a great heel and annoying as fuck but being the king of Portland is like being the top dog in CZW today. It doesn't mean much in my eyes." -- goodhelmet on Buddy Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Continuing to read that thread and it looks like a lot of us shared our final ballots in it. I was a lot more adventurous then it would seem, trying to put people like El Texano in my top 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Sean Morley discussion thread? Oh my. And Shawshank Rudotion was certainly a feisty one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 "He was a great heel and annoying as fuck but being the king of Portland is like being the top dog in CZW today. It doesn't mean much in my eyes." -- goodhelmet on Buddy Rose Hahahaha! Eat those words Will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exposer Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 "Nobuhiko Takada He's the other guy in my Japanese top five taking the place of Misawa in yours." - Dylan Waco 2006 How things have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 None of the links work, but now the newer posters at least know we didn't pretend there was a 2006 poll, and you can see what was being discussed at the time if nothing else. http://goo.gl/ieAfG8 I'm glad the links don't work. I absolutely don't want to see some probably idiotic stuff I said back then ! Plus I was probably a much bigger asshole than I am now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 "Nobuhiko Takada He's the other guy in my Japanese top five taking the place of Misawa in yours." - Dylan Waco 2006 Your tastes were so much better then, Dylan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR Ackermann Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Holy shit, times have changed. Takada and Harley Race...wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 "the myth that Hogan was good in Japan" was probably a quote from me. And yeah, I still stand strong about it. The idea that Hogan was somewhat much better in Japan came from the fact he used to show a little bit more and that he didn't Hulk up, but after a while you realize he was just doing the same crappy looking routine that looked cool the first time you see it because it's unexpected. Hogan in the 80's didn't strike me as much better, the Inoki matches are painfull. Yeah, Stan Hansen beats him up to one of his best matches over there, but then again, Stan is a #1 contender for best ever. I hope Hogan drops today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR Ackermann Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I actually think Hogan was way better in the United States than he was in Japan. He just wasn't good at Strong Style and did the same shitty sequences like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I agree on Hogan in Japan. I think it was easy to convince oneself of it because WWF was cartoony and Japan was the land of real wrestling and Hogan "used more moves" there, but his matches there aren't anything special compared to either the good Japanese matches or the good Hogan in WWF matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 FWIW, the most fun I had watching Hogan work (hell, the only time I really had fun, although I do like some of his WWF work) was during his Hollywood Hogan era, when he had his working shoes on and was really good playing heel, even making one-hip Piper look good and looking better than Ric Flair was at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 What are the good Hogan in WWF matches exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Slaughter... Ok, that's all I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 What are the good Hogan in WWF matches exactly? Andre, Savage, Warrior, Slaughter, Race, Bossman, Schultz, Valentine, Orndorff off the top of my head. Assuming we're just talking about that 80s period. I think he had a lot of good matches during the Hulkamania run. One of the reasons why he's on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parties Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Backlund vs. heel Hogan from the Spectrum in '80 is excellent. Hogan-Funk from SNME isn't great, but it's kind of amazing to watch those two together at the beginning of '86. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 "I think Bill Dundee may be too high because no one has been able to point me to any non-Jerry Lawler matches that could be argued as classics." goodhelmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Hogan in Japan reminds me a lot of Johnny Ace in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Wow, the objectivity/subjectivity and the entire greatest vs favourites divide was just as strong 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR Ackermann Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Hogan has some good stuff in the AWA too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 And Shawshank Rudotion was certainly a feisty one. I wish he was still around. He seems like a good opponent for JVK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted April 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 He wasn't always that feisty. He just really hated the idea of GWE. Opinionated, yes, but not feisty. He was also at DVDVR as ValeRudo and Ravishing Rick Rudo if that rings any bells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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