The Project's General Discussion

[SirEdger]

Don't give me ideas.

[I Broke Bruno's Neck]

 

Rules - The Initial Draft

 

Here is my ideas for rules. I am completely up for modifying and improving them, but this can set a basis.

 

Start Date: September 1, 1995 (September 1, 2016)

 

Following the 1995 calendar, but post on the 2016 calendar.

 

Pre-Draft:

1) You keep the owner and the announcers and other equivalent staff.

2) You get to keep three pieces of talent from the 1995 roster (rosters posted later).='

 

Tiers:

1) Promotions will be treated in blocks, by tiers

Tier A: WWF, WCW, AJPW, NJPW

Tier B: ECW, FMW

Tier C: SMW, USWA, M-Pro

 

The Draft:

1) Round #1 will start with a randomized list of the Tier A promotions, followed by Tier B and Tier C. After round 1, each even number round will be randomized for all promotions and the odd rounds will be snaked from the previous round.

2) There will be three lists of talent to pick from: The USA list, the Japan list, and the Other list. If you are a USA promotion you can select from the USA or Other list, while if you are a Japan promotion, then you can pick from the Japan and Other list.

3) You only draft 5 talent that was not born in the country of the promotion you control.

4) Roster Size (Includes anyone draft-able ie managers)

Tier A: 22-44

Tier B: 18-28

Tier C: 16-26

(Options to have larger rosters is available for indies big shows and Japan touring companies)

5) Once a pick is made, the person on the clock has 10 hours to pick. if they miss their 10 hours then the next person can pick and the person who missed their pick can insert their pick ASAP.

6) If you pick a tag team you forfeit your next pick. Although, feel free to pick only one member of a tag team.

7) Only Tier A promotions can select wrestlers with stars next to their name. (example Hogan is not going to M-Pro.

 

The Talent and Booking:

1) Keep in mind who your owner is when booking (ie if Giant Baba is your owner, there is no run ins and all clean finishes)

2) Book the amount of shows that you want. If you are a promotion that runs TV, then one show a week is all you need. If you are a smaller indie you can run only a show a month if you want.

3) Try to post shows on the day they occur. Obviously life happens, but it's better to just say "Raw ran this date, nothing of note happened) then to fall weeks and months behind.

4) You can fire anyone and hire anyone from the free agent list at any time.

5) If you are a touring company, you can add 5 free agents for your tour that no one else can use or get them loaned to you from other companies.

6) If you are a Tier B or C promotion, you can add up to 4 free agents for a mega show as long as they aren't booked out on tours.

7) Every few months there will be a rookie draft where only Tier C promotions can participate in.

Stealing Talent:

1) Since it's the Monday Night Wars, the US promotions will have a stealing system. If a wrestler is not used on TV or PPV for an entire month by a Tier A promotion, then the other Tier A promotion can steal that talent. If that wrestler is not used again for another week the Tier B promotion can steal them.

2) Every month the Tier A & B promotions will rotate through one attempt to steal a talent (ie WCW one month, WWF next, and ECW the one after, followed by WCW again). The player can pick one talent from an equal sized or lower tiered promotion to steal. A die will determine if they are successful or not.

If the talent you want to steal is on the same tier and is top 6 for that company, then the player selects one number between 1 and 12. Two dice are rolled if that number comes up, they get the talent.

If the talent you want to steal any other talent then the player selects one number between 1 and 6. A die is rolled if that number comes up, they get the talent.

Just some ideas I had, let me know what you think.

 

 

I think you should be able to keep 4 wrestlers from your promotion.

[Scarlet-Left]

I only have one misgiving about the stealing system: What if a guy is taken off television to sell an injury or as part of an angle?

 

If they're exempt, which I think they should be, it might create a loophole where a player could just have an announcer mention off-hand that various people have been nursing an injury on the last show of whatever month.

 

Perhaps, in that case, there could an exemption system capped at one talent per month.

 

Edit:

 

Should I assume loaned talent are exempt from the stealing mechanic? So, if I sent Hulk Hogan to New Japan for a month, he wouldn't count as being "off" my television, would he?

 

Also, is the pre-draft protection rule of three workers overriding the previous tiered rule?

[Grimmas]

Amount excempt from draft can be discussed.

 

Injured wrestlers are not stolen. That stealing rule is to avoid big companies from hoarding wrestlers they aren't using.

[Grimmas]

No stealing in Japan. Togo is safe.

[gordi]

No stealing in Japan. Togo is safe.

 

 

[Grimmas]

I can put together the rosters this weekend and we can start drafting next week. That will give us about a week if anybody else wants to join up. If not, free agents will be huge for any indie to start up.

[Grimmas]

To clarify, we are looking at this currently?

 

WWF: I Broke Bruno's Neck (Vince McMahon)

WCW: Scarlet-Left (Ted Turner)

ECW: topropepodcast (Paul Heyman)

USWA: kevinmcfl (Jerry Lawler)

SMW: Wahoos Leg (Jim Cornette)

 

 

NJPW: SirEdger (Antonio Inoki)

AJPW: lowblowpodast (Giant Baba)

FMW: Grimmas (Atsushi Onita)

M-Pro: gordi (Great Sasuki)

 

Would love another Japan at least, but this is a good enough starting point.

 

Anybody want to make a ruling on the joshi wrestlers? FMW uses joshi wrestlers, but there is no current joshi promotions open. I assume, me having a division of the best six joshi wrestlers would be unfare? Not sure.. Open to suggestions? Maybe keep AJW as a ghost promotion that nobody can touch?

[Boon]

I'd be happy to book the odd Indy show, maybe 1 a month...

[Grimmas]

I'd be happy to book the odd Indy show, maybe 1 a month...

That would be great!

 

Really any indie around during that time is cool, IWA-MS, ECWA, APW or whatever. Even if they didn't debut till later like PWG that is all good.

[Boon]

 

 

I'd be happy to book the odd Indy show, maybe 1 a month...

That would be great!

 

Really any indie around during that time is cool, IWA-MS, ECWA, APW or whatever. Even if they didn't debut till later like PWG that is all good.

ECWA is northeast right? I'll do them..

[Grimmas]

 

 

I'd be happy to book the odd Indy show, maybe 1 a month...

That would be great!

 

Really any indie around during that time is cool, IWA-MS, ECWA, APW or whatever. Even if they didn't debut till later like PWG that is all good.

ECWA is northeast right? I'll do them..

 

Yep, also gives you the yearly Super 8 tournament, which was a big annual one night deal.

 

Actually a decent roster to protect guys form too:

Lance Diamond (Simon Diamond)

Ace Darling

Kid Flash (Billy Kidman)

Steve Corino

Cheetah Master

Devon Storm

Plus.......... The Bushwhackers!

[Grimmas]

Updated!

WWF: I Broke Bruno's Neck (Vince McMahon)

WCW: Scarlet-Left (Ted Turner)

ECW: topropepodcast (Paul Heyman)

USWA: kevinmcfl (Jerry Lawler)

SMW: Wahoos Leg (Jim Cornette)

ECWA: Boon (Jim Kettner)

NJPW: SirEdger (Antonio Inoki)

AJPW: lowblowpodast (Giant Baba)

FMW: Grimmas (Atsushi Onita)

M-Pro: gordi (Great Sasuki)

[Boon]

 

 

 

 

I'd be happy to book the odd Indy show, maybe 1 a month...

That would be great!

 

Really any indie around during that time is cool, IWA-MS, ECWA, APW or whatever. Even if they didn't debut till later like PWG that is all good.

ECWA is northeast right? I'll do them..

Yep, also gives you the yearly Super 8 tournament, which was a big annual one night deal.

 

Actually a decent roster to protect guys form too:

Lance Diamond (Simon Diamond)

Ace Darling

Kid Flash (Billy Kidman)

Steve Corino

Cheetah Master

Devon Storm

Plus.......... The Bushwhackers!

Cool, looks like I'll book ECWA

[SirEdger]

Great to see you on board, Boon.

[Jesse Ewiak]

Hey, I'd like to try out and start up RevPro (the precursor to PWG) up a little early. Realize most of the folks wouldn't be ready yet, but I like the concept of attempting to start up a West Coast top level indie at this point in time.

[Grimmas]

Hey, I'd like to try out and start up RevPro (the precursor to PWG) up a little early. Realize most of the folks wouldn't be ready yet, but I like the concept of attempting to start up a West Coast top level indie at this point in time.

That would be cool, all the small promotions that run a show a month are easy to put together.

[Grimmas]

Here is a list of rosters with their owners, non-wrestlers and champions for people to make their list of people you are keeping that are exempt from the draft. I think we are going with three talents, unless we feel that number is wrong. Owners and non-wrestlers are kept with the promotion, while everybody else will be put into the draft, if they are not saved. Look at the rules for other info.

 

Please point out an errors I might had made on this.

 

World Wrestling Federation

Owner: Vince McMahon

Non-Wrestlers: Jim Ross, Dox Hendrix (Michael Hayes), Gorilla Monsoon, & Todd Pettengill

WWF World Champion: Diesel

WWF IC Champion: Shawn Michaels

WWF World Tag Team Champions: Owen Hart & Yokozuna

WWF Women's Champion: Bertha Faye

Bret Hart

The Undertaker

Lex Luger

Psycho Sid

Razor Ramon

Davey Boy Smith

Jean Pierre Lafitte (Carl Ouelette)

Dean Douglas

1-2-3 Kid

Isaac Yankem DDS (Kane)

Savio Vega

Gooldust

Bam Bam Bigelow

Henry Godwinn

Hakushi

Bob Holly

Waylon Mercy (Danny Spivey)

Man Mountain Rock (Maxx Payne)

Skip (Chris Candido)

Kama (Godfather)

King Kong Bundy

Fatu

Barry Horowitz

Rad Radford (Louie Spicolli)

Brooklyn Brawler

Aldo Montoya (Justin Credible)

Duke Droese

Bob Backlund

Marty Jannetty

Hunter Hearst Helmsley

Doink the Clown (Ray Apollo)

Jacob & Eli Blu

Smoking Gunns (Billy & Bart)

Men on a Mission (King Mabel & Sir Mo)

Alundra Blayze (Madusa)

Paul Bearer

Mr. Fuji

Ted DiBiase

Sunny

World Championship Wrestling

Owner: Ted Turner

Non-Wrestlers: Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan, Steve McMichael, Gene Okerlund, Tony Schiavone, & Dusty Rhodes

WCW World Champion: Hulk Hogan

WCW United States Champion: Sting

WCW World Tag Team Champions: Dick Slater & Bunkhouse Buck

WCW Television Champion: The Renegade

Ric Flair

Randy Savage

Arn Anderson

Big Bubba Rogers

The Giant (Big Show)

Johnny B. Badd

VK Wallstreet (Mike Rotunda)

Brian Pillman

Meng

Paul Orndorff

Cobra (Jeff Farmer)

Sgt. Craig Pittman

Alex Wright

Diamond Dallas Page

Jim Duggan

Dean Malenko

Eddie Guerrero

Shark (John Tenta)

Kevin Sullivan

Kamala

Scott Armstrong

Dave Sullivan

Mark Starr

Disco Inferno

Zoadiak (Brutus Beefcake)

Joey Maggs

Chris Kanyon

Ice Train

Nasty Boys (Jerry Saggs & Brian Knobbs)

Harlem Heat (Booker T & Stevie Ray)

American Males (Marcus Bagwell & Scotty Riggs)

Blue Bloods (Steven Regal & Bobby Eaton)

Barrio Brothers (Fidel Sierra & Ricky Santana)

State Patrol (Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker & Lt. James Earl Wright)

Jimmy Hart

Sister Sherri

Col. Robert Parker

Maxx Muscle

Kimberly

All Japan Pro-Wrestling

Owner: Giant Baba

AJPW Triple Crown Champion: Mitsuharu Misawa

AJPW Double Tag Team Champions: Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue

AJPW Junior Heavyweight Champion: Dan Kroffat

AJPW All-Asia Tag Team Champions: Jun Akiyama & Takao Omori

Abdullah the Butcher

Masa Fuchi

Stan Hansen

Kenta Kobashi

The Patriot

The Eagle (Jackie Fulton)

Lacrosse (Jim Steele)

Doug Furnas

Giant Kimala II

Tamon Honda

Richard Slinger

Johnny Ace

Yoshinori Ogawa

Jumbo Tsuruta

Joel Deaton

Mitsuo Momota

Ryukaku Izumida

Haruka Eigan

Mighty Inoue

Bobby Duncum Jr.

Kentaro Shiga

Masao Inoue

Satoru Asako

Tsuyoshi Kikuchi

Maunkea Mossman

The Fantastics (Tommy Rogers & Bobby Fulton)

New Japan Pro-Wrestling

Owner: Antonio Inoki

IWGP Heavyweight Champion: Keiji Mutoh

IWGP Tag Team Champions: Junji Hirata & Shinya Hashimoto

IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion: Koji Kanemoto

Riki Choshu

Tadao Yasuda

Masahiro Chono

Kuniaki Kobayashi

Shiro Koshinaka

Hiroyoshi Tenzan

Scott Norton

Akira Nogami

Takashi Iizuka

Michiyoshi Ohara

Tatsutoshi Goto

Hiroshi Hase

Hiro Saito

Kengo Kimura

Isamu Teranishi

Yoshiaki Yatsu

Akitoshi Saito

Osamu Kido

Yuji Nagata

Jushin Liger

Wild Pegasus

Sabu

Norio Honaga

El Samurai

Black Cat

Shinjiro Ohtani

Tatsuhito Takaiwa

Gran Hamada

Tokimitsu Ishizawa (Kendo Kashin)

Hell Raisers (Hawk Warrior (Road Warrior Hawk) & Power Warrior (Kensuke Sasaki)

Extreme Championship Wrestling

Owner: Paul Heyman

Non-Wrestlers: Joey Styles, Tod Gordon

ECW World Champion: The Sandman

ECW World Tag Team Champions: Raven & Stevie Richards

ECW Television Champion: 2 Cold Scorpio

Cactus Jack

911

Tommy Dreamer

Hacy Myers

JT Smith

Ian Rotten

Taz

Bull Pain

Dances with Dudley

Big Dick dudley

Dudley Dudley

Mikey Whipwreck

Tony Stetson

Chad Austin

Don E. Allen

Rey Mysterio Jr.

Psychosis

Gangstas (New Jack & Mustpha Saed)

Public Enemy (Rocco Rock & Johnny Grunge)

Steiner Brothers (Rick & Scott)

Pitbulls (I & II)

Eliminators (Perry Saturn & John Kronus)

Jason

Bill Alphonso

Sign Guy Dudley

Francine

Beulah McGillicutty

Frontier Martial-Arts Wrestling

Owner: Shoichi Arai

FMW World Brass Knuckles Heavyweight Champion: Hayabusa

FMW Brass Knuckels Tag Team Champions: Lethal Weapon (Ricky Fuji & Hisakatsu Oya)

Independent World Junior Heavyweight Champion: Vacant

FMW Women's Champion: Megumi Kudo

Mitsuhiro Matsunaga

W*ING Kanemura

Mr. Pogo

the Gladiator (Mike Awesome)

Super Leather

Hido

Horace Boulder

Masato Tanaka

Koji Nakagawa

Hideki Hosaka

Katsutoshi Niiyama

Gosaku Goshogawara

Tetsuhiro Kuroda

Mach Hayato

Shark Tsuchiya

Bad Nurse Nakamura

Miwa Saito

Combat Toyoda

Yukari Ishikura

Yukie Nabeno

Kaori Nakayama

Smoky Mountain Wrestling

Owner: Jim Cornette

Non-Wrestlers:

SMW Heavyweight Champion: Brad Armstrong

SMW Tag Team Champions: Heavenly Bodies (Jimmy Del Ray & Tom Pritchard)

Tommy Rich

Buddy Landel

Dirty White Boy

Robert Gibson

The Punisher (Bull Buchahan)

Bobby Blaze

Chris Michaels

Boo Bradley (Balls Mahoney)

Tracy Smothers

Al Snow

Brian Lee

Flash Flanagan

D-Lo Brown

Headbangers (Mosh & Thrasher)

Ron Wright

Bob Armstrong

United States Wrestling Association

Owner: Jerry Jarrett

Non-Wrestler: Cory Macklin

USWA Unified World Heavyweight Champion: Jerry Lawler

USWA Southern Heavyweight Champion: Billy Jack Haynes

USWA World Tag Team Champions: PG-13 (JC Ice & Wolfie D)

USWA Women's Champion: Miss Texas (Jacqueline)

Bill Dundee

Jesse James Armstrong

Axl Rotten

Doug Gilbert

Terry Gordy

King Cobra

Spellbindger

Gorgeous George III

Pat Tanaka

Steven Dunn

The Gambler

Steve Doll

Tekno Team 2000 (Travis (Chad Fortune) & Troy (Erik Watts))

Brandon Baxter

East Coast Wrestling Association

Owner: Jim Kettner

ECWA Heavyweight Champion: Lance Diamond (Simon Diamond)

ECWA Tag Team Champions: Hollywood Hunks (Custom Made Man & Stunning Sean)

ECWA Mid-Atlantic Champion: ???

Devon Storm

Cheetah Master

Ace Darling

Kid Flash (Billy Kidman)

Steve Corino

Inferno Kid

Glenn Osbourne

Mr. Ooh La La

Boogie Woogie Brown

Johnny Blaze

Bobby Piper

The Bushwhackers (Luke & Butch)

Revolution Pro Wrestling

Owner: Ron Rivera

Michinoku Pro-Wrestling

Owner: Great Sasuke

Jerry Lynn

Gran Naniwa

Super Delfin

Dos Caras

Hanzo Nakajima

Wellington Wilkins Jr.

Yone Genjin

The Convict

Masato Yakushiji

Taka Michinoku

Naohiro Hoshikawa

Kato Kung Lee

Tiger Mask IV

Naohiro Hoshikawa

Kendo

Mascara Magica

[Grimmas]

Draft could start Thursday? If i can get things done in time, so get in your saves. If anybody else wants to join (lots of Japan promotions from WAR, UWFI, WING, BJW, AJW, JWP, etc... are open). Let me know I will post their rosters.

[LowBlowPodcast]

I'd say tier 1 could go with 4 guys then tier 2-whatever gets to save 3. Would that work?

[Grimmas]

I'd say tier 1 could go with 4 guys then tier 2-whatever gets to save 3. Would that work?

Kind of makes sense to me, I'm good with that if others are.

[Scarlet-Left]

I'd prefer to be able to save four, instead of three, but, then again, of course I would.

[LowBlowPodcast]

 

I'd say tier 1 could go with 4 guys then tier 2-whatever gets to save 3. Would that work?

Kind of makes sense to me, I'm good with that if others are.

 

 

I just think it follows your tiered system and with bigger companies, it is more likely to have four people stay around to keep foundations.

 

My other question was... do I automatically save champions or do they have to count towards my 4?

[Grimmas]

 

 

I'd say tier 1 could go with 4 guys then tier 2-whatever gets to save 3. Would that work?

Kind of makes sense to me, I'm good with that if others are.

 

 

I just think it follows your tiered system and with bigger companies, it is more likely to have four people stay around to keep foundations.

 

My other question was... do I automatically save champions or do they have to count towards my 4?

 

Champions are not automatic saves, just listed so people know what the promotion looked like at the time. You can save your champions and keep them going forward, or you can save none of them and have all vacant titles up to you.

 

Although with AJPW, you would most likely save Misawa, Kobashi, Kawada and then either Akiyama and Taue.

 

The only people you automatically keep are the owners and non-wrestlers listed first.

[LowBlowPodcast]

Okay, I re-read that and it made sense. I am going to do some diffing on how to put this roster together but I am definitely interested to see who will be available to bring in from the US if needed.