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#21 TonyPulis'Cap

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:18 AM

I think my biggest issues with the promos in WWE and the announcers is that no one talks like a human being. Joe telling Brock to look at him when he's talking to him was the best thing said on a WWE program in years. That was great because it was real, it was visceral and it felt spontaneous to that moment. The problem I have is even the good talkers feel like they're reading off a script.

 

This x 100.

 

No-one in the WWE talks like a human - they talk like robots that have been programmed with stock phrases and buzzwords.   



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:46 AM

‘Fantasy warfare just got real!’ (though I guess that was at least contained to the announcers)

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:01 AM

The announcers have been forced to spout off awful tag lines for years.

"The WWF runs on Diesel Power!"

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:02 AM

I don't know what set my wife off at one of the PPVs with the announcers but she despises Cole.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:17 AM

When particularly Cole reads out what a wrestler has tweeted he will say something like #bosstime #*pause for effect*legitboss. The first time I heard it is thought he was pausing because he misread it or something but no he pauses for at least a second before finishing the sentence



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:18 AM

Still amazing to me that Vince obsesses over these details, but can't remember his own storylines.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:37 AM

‘Fantasy warfare just got real!’ (though I guess that was at least contained to the announcers)

 

"The only time of the year when Raw and Smackdown Live go head-to-head in direct competition" and "#undersiege".



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 10:14 AM

 

 

...even the good talkers feel like they're reading off a script.



Not only that but (based on the small sample size of what I saw this year during RumbleMania) it feels like most of them are reading off of the same script, and that the script was written by someone who has never ever 1) been in a fight - or been in a tense situation, or stood up for themselves... 

 

I mean, the truth is, it's likely much of the 2018 WWE roster, especially the people under thirty has never been in a 'real' fight outside of an MMA gym. America is a far less violent place than it's been in decades. Bullying is done via social media shaming and the such, not beating up somebody at their locker or whatever. I say all of this seeing it largely as a good thing, even if it means we have less people to cut promos based on their bar fights. 

 

 

@jesse: that definitely is a good thing, overall.  :)

But ultimately not true. We watch the news. 

I don't even get cyber bullying people you see in real life. I would have kicked the shit(or tried) out of a kid who did that to me if I saw them at school. 

Does this violate some code I'm too old for. "No Horatio, we only bully on the internet."



#29 Slasher

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 01:02 PM


 


 

...even the good talkers feel like they're reading off a script.


Not only that but (based on the small sample size of what I saw this year during RumbleMania) it feels like most of them are reading off of the same script, and that the script was written by someone who has never ever 1) been in a fight - or been in a tense situation, or stood up for themselves... 
 
I mean, the truth is, it's likely much of the 2018 WWE roster, especially the people under thirty has never been in a 'real' fight outside of an MMA gym. America is a far less violent place than it's been in decades. Bullying is done via social media shaming and the such, not beating up somebody at their locker or whatever. I say all of this seeing it largely as a good thing, even if it means we have less people to cut promos based on their bar fights. 
 
 

@jesse: that definitely is a good thing, overall.  :)

But ultimately not true. We watch the news. 

I don't even get cyber bullying people you see in real life. I would have kicked the shit(or tried) out of a kid who did that to me if I saw them at school. 

Does this violate some code I'm too old for. "No Horatio, we only bully on the internet."

I feel like most of the cyber bullying or shaming is done anonymously. Like people create fake profiles for the purpose of trolling, bullying or to express opinions they are too ashamed to take ownership of. I rarely see people blatantly bully people with their primary profile.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 04:49 PM

I know the Miz gets a lot of love right now (and rightfully so), but I remember everyone raving about this boring Balor/Rollins match on Raw a couple of months ago. So I gave it a shot.

Miz was at the booth, shining himself after the birth of his kid. And, had he been presented as a baby face in that program, then fine. But that's not even the issue I had with his commentary, because at least he came across like a genuine good guy.

But my main takeaway was in how he constantly referred to Finn and Seth as "performers" and "entertainers." I mean, he must have said it a dozen times during the match. At one point, he was running down his resume and wanted to reference how he beat John Cena in the main event of a WrestleMania. But he can't call him a great wrestler or anything, so he refers to Cena as one of the greatest entertainers of all time.

It's some of the silliest shit I've ever heard.

I immediately wondered who the fuck would ever actually talk like this? I mean, Miz could've gotten away with calling John one of the greatest "champions" or something, but it was like he was so hung up on trying to speak the correct buzzwords that he carefully selected only the safest of options available to him. Just awful. Truly awful.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:35 PM

I get not using the word as a way to distinguish yourself from other groups like in the 1980s and 1990s. Most fans were only wired to think about wrestling as one thing from one place, and he needed the audience to understand as part of their marketing that the WWF was something special, a cut above. Now though? I think it's a different story. I'm looking forward to Vince hating the "Johnny Wrestling" chant and demanding that announcers and Gargano both stop using it. Or, we'll see if he's called "Johnny Sports Entertainment".



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 04:36 PM

Pretty sure that is why Tommaso Ciampa calls himself Tommy Entertainment, as the direct opposition of Johnny Wrestling.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 05:20 PM

When particularly Cole reads out what a wrestler has tweeted he will say something like #bosstime #*pause for effect*legitboss. The first time I heard it is thought he was pausing because he misread it or something but no he pauses for at least a second before finishing the sentence

 

 

I'm thinking that might just be a quirk in how he talks, because after 20+ years he still thows to commercial like "next on MONDAY *dramatic pause* NIGHTRAW!" 

 

I wonder sometimes if non fans who come upon the show hear that and think it's called WWE Nightraw. 



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:28 PM

Neither here nor there, but I remember having closed captions on once many moons ago and repeatedly seeing "Come on, show man Randy Savage."



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 11:11 PM

My favorite wrestling closed caption fails:

 

- On a 2003 Raw, Goldberg was called "Smaffles"

- During a 1998 Nitro they were playing a clip of Jay Leno doing some Hogan jokes to build up the Road Wild match. Jay said of Hogan, "this guy is so old the only way he can get up is to take Viagra!" Viagra was a new hot topic at the time and we were to understand that "get up" was a double entendre. The closed captioner, evidently unfamiliar with this new wonder drug, quoted Leno as accusing Hogan of taking "vying rafment."

- In Flair's TNA debut he was referred to as "The Nature Boy Riki Choshu"



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 01:46 AM

- In Flair's TNA debut he was referred to as "The Nature Boy Riki Choshu"


what? pics or it didn't happen



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 01:57 AM

I think Ted DiBiase was probably the most hated heel ever to the closed captioners. I think "Bebeyassy" was the closest I ever saw one get to correct.

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:25 AM

After watching some All Star Wrestling on the network, Im convinced that the real reason Vince moved away from calling it wrestling was because he could never quite say that word right.

He always said, russling.

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 12:13 PM

 

When particularly Cole reads out what a wrestler has tweeted he will say something like #bosstime #*pause for effect*legitboss. The first time I heard it is thought he was pausing because he misread it or something but no he pauses for at least a second before finishing the sentence

 

 

I'm thinking that might just be a quirk in how he talks, because after 20+ years he still thows to commercial like "next on MONDAY *dramatic pause* NIGHTRAW!" 

 

I wonder sometimes if non fans who come upon the show hear that and think it's called WWE Nightraw. 

 

Cole has a going to commercial voice. Why would you telegraph a commercial break.



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Posted 20 May 2018 - 05:50 PM

With all of this talk of Closed Captioning, the captioning used on the Network is actually excellent - even for live shows.




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