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  1. It was HBK v JBL on the 23rd Feb Raw, and he also had to beat Kozlov (ugh) the week after.
  2. So, other than the top 3 matches which could have been predicted 3 months ago and Swagger/Del Rio, any further clues for Mania matches? Shield v Orton/Sheamus/Ryback? Be a bit poor for those three guys to say they only had a six-man tag for 'Mania, as much as I love The Shield as an act. Jericho v Ziggler? They cooled it off after two days Rumble/Raw of the two at odds, but what else is there for either? Or throw Show into the Shield match and they can have the rumoured Ryback/Jericho match, even though I don't know why the match is rumoured since they haven't interacted much and both are faces. If not, Show stuck with Mark Henry and one of them turns face to precipitate that match? Kane/Bryan to split, or to defend the belts at 'Mania? Anything for Miz, Barrett, Sandow or Cesaro to do? I'm just shitting thoughts out, really. God, I'm good.
  3. air_raid

    Current WWE

    Any talk of Orton being permanent midcard material would evaporate if they turned him heel (which they would far in advance of a hypothetical match with the Rock) - we already know he can portray a realistic unhinged psychopath and he'd be a damn sight more credible heel than the shower of softies, moaners and bumblers that they've got now. Although sounds like it won't happen because of this Cena story. For all his great work for the Make A Wish kids, Cena seems a turd when it comes to other wrestlers. We already know the kind of things he said about Rocky in non-worked interviews with mainstream media, it seems to genuinely pain him to bestow any credit on Punk whatsoever on the Best In The World DVD, and now he does this to Orton, which after saying how much he liked Randy these days on Evolution Of A Predator not only makes him a turd but a disingenuous backstabber too. As for Rey, he's fucked. The constant string of injuries is a result of him carrying far too much muscle mass for his frame for a number of years. Even when he first showed up in WWE he was larger than he had been in WcW. Rey, 2000. Your little sister could beat him up, and she's 12. Rey, 2002. Already more ripped. Look at dem arms, shoulders and traps. Rey, 2008. ROOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAR!
  4. air_raid

    Current WWE

    They're both still wrestling and star names, I don't understand. Unless this is just a terrible joke.
  5. air_raid

    Current WWE

    Rock/Orton is bound to happen at some point. If they can keep bringing Rocky back here and there, I'd actually imagine that to main event SummerSlam with the right build. Presumably Randy will have turned heel by then.
  6. air_raid

    Current WWE

    He'd only been champion a month! What a redundant statement. WCW went to shit because of crap booking, the "equal pay" element of certain talents' contracts creating a financial sinkhole underneath them, and a multitude of top guys having the dreaded "creative control" in their contracts and not having to do any favours they didn't want to. Not because any of their talents were part time. Their strongest buyrate of all time was for Hogan vs Sting who hadn't wrestled on TV for 15 months. You can hardly get more part-time than that. Why? Out of Hogan vs Sid and Flair vs Savage, who's "part time" there? Hogan, because he didn't work the house show schedule the others did at the time? But then, he sure as hell was on TV as much as all the other names. I think you're muddying the waters between "part time" and "getting on a bit in years." Which is irrelevant if they still go (Flair's most satisfying year in the ring being 1989 when he was 40, Shawn Michaels and those participating in Mania 29 all being great wrestlers still well into their 40s) and/or draw a big number (see aforementioned Hogan/Sting where Hogan was 44). Like Rock being in the main event last year, which was the most ordered wrestling pay per view of all time. Business was low because the company had hit the skids post steroid scandal and a load of top stars leaving. Wrestling just wasn't "in" any more, and it took swearing, tits and Steve Austin to get it back "in" again. Incidentally, when Stone Cold sparked wrestling's big revival on that particular episode of Raw, he hadn't been "properly put over" by any of the big stars - Bret, Shawn or Undertaker - by that point, which kind of illustrates that you don't especially need the top guys to lie down for you. If you're good enough, you'll make it. It's got far less to do with wins and losses than anyone thinks. And I don't see what the 'Mania VIII - 'Mania XI stream of consciousness has to do with the "part timers" debate anyway, unless you want to criticize them for putting LT on last in the latter. Any chance you have to put a big marquee name on your big show to draw money, you should do it. Anyone criticizing the positioning of Rock, Hunter, Lesnar or Undertaker on the 'Mania card in favour of Sheamus or Ziggler, quite frankly I do not understand. If the problem is "old guys should move out the way for the new stars" - wake the fuck up. We've had ten years of Cena, Batista and Orton main events. They all got put on the map - mostly by Hunter - so if anyone should be used to get the next headliners ready, it should be them.
  7. air_raid

    Current WWE

    Forgetting of course that Hogan was a red-hot heel at the time which the WcW fanbase were dying to see someone beat, that Piper was someone they bought into, and that they went batshit crazy when Piper did beat him, with the nWo showing cracks for virtually the first time. A PPV that earned 240,000 buys (considered an enormous success at the time) and grossed nearly $3 million. This "part-timers" shit needs cutting out, it really does. Pro wrestling always has and always will be about finding matches that people want to see and making them pay to see them. WrestleMania is where they put on the biggest matches, and if those biggest matches involve people that don't want to/can't work a full-time schedule all year (but can still go, without doubt), so be it. The last two 'Manias would have been far less memorable without Hunter and Rock's matches, and in truth many more without Taker. Yes, the future of the company is sacrificed by putting those older stars at the top of the card over their existing pack (with the exception of Cena), but WWE doesn't think about it, so neither should we. We should just enjoy the show and be grateful we're not still treated to endless Cena/Orton matches. WrestleMania with Rock/Cena, Brock/Hunter and hopefully Taker/Punk will be incredible, and as an aside, Cena finally proving he is (kayfabe) as good as one of the best ever and avenging his loss to The Rock - and regaining his belt - will be a phenomenal piece of pro wrestling drama, and anyone suggesting the main event should be anything other than a straight Rock/Cena one on one has their head up their backside.
  8. air_raid

    Current WWE

    This means fuck all. There weren't any hints for Undertaker vs Triple H in 2011 either, if memory serves me correctly everyone was convinced it was Hunter v Sheamus for revenge for putting him out, and Undertaker vs Barrett for revenge for burying him alive. Why would Taker work the Shield? They haven't dropped even the slightest of hints that it will happen, I might say. Personally I think as good an act as The Shield have been, their match at 'Mania will be throwaway filler, and I'd rather Taker not be on the card at all than be in the filler. People have become fixated on Punk vs Taker because of the following : (1) Punk needs something big to do at 'Mania after coming off a year plus reign as champion. He needs to be in the ring with a big babyface in a marquee match. Rock, Cena and Triple H are all busy, he's worked with Ryback until we all got sick of it, and Orton has been treading water (and they've done that). (2) Taker needs a decent heel to wrestle at 'Mania, if he wrestles at 'Mania. Brock is busy and at his age he can't be expected to work around a massive bloke like Big Show or Mark Henry, both of whom he also has wrestled ad nauseum anyway. And nobody would give Ziggler a prayer of beating Undertaker any day of the week, not withstanding his current terrible form. They are the only opponents that are big enough names for the other at WrestleMania, apart from the aforementioned four lads that are already busy. All that has to happen now that it's set in stone that Punk won't be in the main event of 'Mania (and they've publicized that Taker is wrestling again) is one promo on Monday about how he'll do the next best thing which is beat Taker, and how his 434 day streak as champion was more impressive than Taker beating a load of Giant Gonzalez and Bundy type rubbish, and job's a good 'un and you have 4 weeks to build it.
  9. air_raid

    Current WWE

    No, I'm just not confusing "title match in the middle of the card" for "main event." I staunchly agree that Rock/Cena needs to be kept one on one. Undertaker not being fit for the proposed Punk/Undertaker match is not justification for me to sabotage the Rock/Cena rematch wherein Cena takes the title and gets his win back from Rock, which was the best explanation for the nostalgia act beating the top guy last year in the first place. Cena retaking the title in a three way affords him negligible bragging rights compared to beating Rocky one on one. Worse still, Punk could take the fall and it looks like Cena is incapable of beating The Rock. Find something else for Punk to do.
  10. air_raid

    Current WWE

    Bit melodramatic, no? It's been a year since the main event being one on one, and you have to go back to WrestleMania XX that they had a triple threat go on last. Multi man mains are the exception, not the rule.
  11. On the contrary, I think it's a pretty good time to try out someone new in the mix rather than a less important PPV where the secondary World title defence might be the second biggest match on the card. Nobody expects/needs them to have a match for the Big Gold Belt that will attract buys for 'Mania. They will expect to get those off the back of : a ) Rock VS Cena b ) Brock VS HHH c ) Punk VS Undertaker (if it happens) d ) Ryback VS Show "and can Ryback lift the Big Show into Shellshock??" (if that happens) e ) Whatever Sheamus, Orton, Jericho, Ziggler, Henry, Bryan, Kane and The Shield are booked to do. f ) "It's WrestleMania, I have to watch WrestleMania!" More than likely it's being viewed as a chance to see how the Jack Swagger of 2013 does in a big match setting and gauge the live crowd's reaction to him, and if it doesn't go swimmingly, most viewers will probably forget by show's end after they've seen all that other shit I just mentioned. Especially if Ziggler cashes in, Taker wrestles, Hunter lamps Lesnar or some such. For the record - I think Swagger vs Del Rio will be a very good wrestling match. Swagger had a fine one on one title match with Rey at Money In The Bank 2010, and I think ADR is a much better, more rounded wrestler than Mysterio. The cheap xenophobe gimmick and Del Rio's fiery babyface comebacks almost guarantees heat, and both are good wrestlers so it will be solid.
  12. Slasher, you've got more chance of ending the streak than CM Punk does.
  13. Because it's not that simple. If it were that simple, beating Big Show itself would mean nothing. Everybody's beaten Big Show. Big Show spent a whole summer in 2002 doing clean jobs for Booker T, Bubba Ray Dudley and Jeff Hardy, and still marched into Survivor Series to knock off an unbeaten Brock Lesnar to win the World title. Bradshaw was nobody for eight years and magically was good enough to be World Champion after two months as JBL. Mark Henry lay down for everyone for 15 years before pinning Randy Orton cleanly for the Big Gold Belt. Swagger's chances of beating Del Rio have got fuck all to do with who he was jobbing to on TV five months before he adopted his current persona. In storyline terms, he's come back aggressive and focused, has had no problems beating the JTTS types (including said same Santino) in less than three minutes and has just won an Elimination Chamber. He's in red hot form. He's a completely different animal to the "All-American American", blue singlet and press ups. I'm not saying he'll beat Bertie, I think if Del Rio doesn't leave 'Mania with the belt then Ziggler will, but Swagger winning in the Chamber marks him as a threat. Don't worry about Santino. If you think you measure a man's calibre by who he gets pinned by, Ric Flair once did a clean job for Rico. Think about that.
  14. Sorry for the bump but as Punk's Mania opponent is a fairly topical subject after last night ; Renowned hard-as-nails tough guy Jeff Hardy kicked out of the first G2S at Extreme Rules 2009 - after he had endured a TLC match with Edge. So logically Rock should be capable of surviving at least one and it would take at least five of them to beat Taker at 'Mania if that match were to happen.
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